[Wphile]

Interesting article. Frankly, I don't trust State a whole lot more than I trust the UN. That's a pretty low bar to reach.

It seemed to me that Turkey had a pretty good relationship with DOD. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz seemed pretty confident in the relationship. Can't say I recall seeing that sort of confidence out of State.

[PhiKapMom]

Personally I think the best Secretary of State we had in my memory was George Schultz. No one got the best of him. He might not have been the best "diplomat" but he sure stood for the United States and what was best for us and anyone else better get out of the way!

When he was in Charge at State, I always had the opinion he was on the same page as Defense. A strong Military made his job a lot easier.

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

[Destro]

If this article is true it is revenge against Rumsfeld, who went to Europe and acted like SoS instead of SoD and mucked things up the Gemrans and French. Did Rumsfled do this to undermine SoS Powell?

So did State muck up Turkey to make Rumsfeld jb harder?

[weikel]

Yep.