[dinok]

This is probably the best definition of our world at this point in time I have ever read.

I agree 110%.

(Thanks for posting it.)

[Celtjew Libertarian]

Bump for later.

[LenS]

One, Christianity is spreading rapidly in Asia and Africa. And it's doing quite well in the Americas where the less vigourous churches are losing out to the rapidly growing more conservative churches.

Two, capitalism has grown greatly in Eastern Europe, the former Soviet Union, Latin American, East Asia, much of South Asia, and even in communist China.

Third, if conservatives are doing so badly in the US, how come the liberals no longer control Congress or the White House?

Mr. Prager is way too pessimistic. As Sovietologists did in the Cold War, he's severely understimating the strength of our side and overestimating the strength of our enemies.

[sd-joe]

This is a fantastic article, and spot on.

[davisfh]

If the militant Muslims somehow gained a plurality in one of the states or, God forbid, in the entire nation, it would be stunning to see how quickly the non-militant Muslims would come on board. There would be no Christian, Jew or person of any other faith who would be safe.

Quoting from something a friend of mine wrote recently: "Contrary to the impression which Muslim propagandists try to convey, Islam is not compatible with the Judeo-Christian culture of this country. It is an alien religion of an alien culture that is politically repressive, oppressive to women, opposed to the separation of church and state and intolerant and violent when the occasion allows."

[Porterville]

Yeah, but we got the weapons.

[Porterville]

One more point...what about the one billion Hindus??? 2-3billion Christians??? We will not go queilty. Infact, we have already won.

[Porterville]

Finally, what this article is mistaking for the truth is the residue of the past...It haunts us like a shadow but that is all it is; the Ottoman Empire fell, Nazi's, Socialist, Fascist, Communist, all failed... Their only legacy is echoes of the past screaming for attention, like an aging actor protesting the war...

[Enemy Of The State]

[always vigilant]

For later...

[Torie]

The conflating of socialism, securlism and support of international non miliary institutions is discordant, silly and wrong.

[ez]

But there are now three ideologies competing to shape the future of mankind. They are militant Islam, Western European secularism and socialism, and American Judeo-Christianity and capitalism.

First, let's call the WE secular socialists by their religious name to level the playing field...atheists. So the struggle is between the Muslims, the Judeo-Christians, and the Atheists, with Iraq acting as the lynchpin that is allying the Atheists and Muslims against Israel and America et al. This is why Iraq is so contested. It unites the efforts of the world against us, eerily Biblical in its' implications. Iraq holds much of the oil that will finance the socialists and atheists for the struggle, and cannot be ceded to the Alliance.

If this seems fantastic to you consider the recent words of "Osama Bin Laden"...

It is not harmful in such conditions for the Muslims' interests and socialists' interests to come along with each other during the war against the crusade, without changing our faith and our declaration that socialists are infidels. Socialists' leadership had fallen down a long time ago. Socialists are infidels wherever they are, either in Baghdad or Aden. Such war which may take place these days is similar to the war between Muslims and Romans when the interests of the Muslims came along with the interests of the Persians who both fought against the Romans.

[x]

Excellent, intriguing article, but it doesn't take China into account. One fourth of the earth's population is bound to have an effect on the future.

Also, Britain and Israel both went far in the direction of socialism earlier, further than France or Germany in the 1940s and 1950s. Things do change and today's natural allies may be rivals tomorrow.

He gets Europe's secular/social democratic synthesis right, but America's Christian/capitalist blend may be more unstable and harder to export. Secular humanism and socialism reinforce each other, though both make for decadent and unsustainable social orders. There are conflicts between Christianity and capitalism that may make the American synthesis hard to maintain.

[Mears]

A very scary article,but I'm afraid I agree with it.

I told one of my sons about 10 years ago that the U.S.'s day was over,and he laughed. He's not laughing anymore.

This is one time I sincerely hope I'm wrong.The brainwashing of children in our schools is appalling,especially here in Newton,Massachusetts.I hope it's not too late to make some changes.

Was it Khruschev who said that we would destroy ourselves from within? I don't know if this is what he had in mind,but his words were prophetic.

[GirlShortstop]

Though most people ignore the fact, almost all of the world's believing Muslims believe that all of mankind should be Muslim.

Hmm, that could be considered an understatement.

      Islam's worldview - The Muslims of Islamic states, and many within the USA, have the tradition of a worldview that divides humanity into two opposing halves.

    Dar al-Islam, House of Islam, is the zone where Islam rules.   The other side is the war zone that is called, Dar el Harb, House of War.   This worldview dictates that war will continue between these two sections of humanity until the supremacy of Islam is fully established throughout the earth.     FR Thread ~ Information on the "Religion of Peace"

[majordivit]

More than 90 percent of the worlds conflicts are between muslims and other muslims or muslims and non-muslims. However, Bush has so far successfully brainwashed Americans into believing that Islam means peace. It's going to be very difficult to win a war against an enemy that is not properly defined.

Today Muslims represent 1/5th of the worlds population. However, more than 1/4 of the worlds chidren are muslim. Does anybody know what a horrible future awaits the world when more than 1/4 of the worlds population is muslim. Look at the trouble we have today. Imagine what a nightmare the future will bring.

Western Europe imports 80 percent of their oil from the middle east. Western Europe doesn't sneeze without first getting permission from the arab oil shieks. Other than that, Western Europe has become more ammoral than they were prior to the advent of Christianity.

"All Non-Muslims Have Diseased Hearts"

In the hearts of non-Muslims is a disease, and Allah has increased their disease, and grievous is the penalty they will incur, because they are false. (Koran 2:8-10)

[WOSG]

WOW.... It hits the nail of the head. Squarely and profoundly.

I've spoken of the current situation as an ideological two-front war.

Freedom vs. Socialism vs. Medievalism.

[Clemenza]

If this is true, all one has to do is come to Fifth Avenue in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn to see the future. If you think that these people care about assimilating (or at least "peacefully coxisting" a la the Mennonites or Hasidim) one visit or brief conversation will make you reconsider.

[knighthawk]

This is the reason about one million non-Muslim Sudanese have been killed in the last 15 years -- because they are resisting the violent imposition of Islam by the Islamic government in Khartoum.

Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

[Jorge]

Hmmm, according to this expert Christianity is actually growing faster than Islam;

"But, argues Philip Jenkins recently in the Atlantic Monthly, Christianity is the religion currently undergoing the most basic rethinking and the largest increase in adherents. He makes a good case for its militancy most affecting the next century."

''For obvious reasons,'' notes this professor of history and religious studies at Pennsylvania State University, ''news reports today are filled with material about the influence of a resurgent and sometimes angry Islam. But in its variety and vitality, in its global reach, in its association with the world's fastest-growing societies, in its shifting centers of gravity, in the way its values and practices vary from place to place--in these and other ways, it is Christianity that will leave the deepest mark on the 21st century.''

(Christianity, not Islam, is faith to watch/ The Chicago Suntimes | 11/30/02 | DANIEL PIPES)