[Diddle E. Squat]

I hear the Urks were irked.

[fiftymegaton]

We should have just asked Iran or Syria. We could have at least received the same answer.

[hemogoblin]

Sounds like a country that puts its petty political squabbles ahead of its obvious national interests. Gosh, can you imagine such a thing? Whew.

[mykdsmom]

But, but....Whoraldo told me he was SURE this was going to pass.

What are the implications of this? I know we have ships there just waiting to offload. Is there another country that will welcome us and will be just as good of a base site for aircraft etc?

I have to admit part of me is glad this happened, it will save us a ton of money in bailing out Turkey. I felt they were blackmailing us anyway. I'm very uneducated on the effect that this will all have though.

MKM

[thinktwice]

U.S. Ambassador Robert Pearson rushed to the Foreign Ministry after the vote.

"We had certainly hoped for a favorable decision," he said. "We will wait for further information and advice from the government of Turkey about how we should proceed."

The President of the United States should sack this diplomatic turkey.

[latrans]

So where does it say the Turkish troops are not going into Iraq?

[Beck_isright]

Translation:

The Turkish military is pissed off and will replace the civilian government again if this doesn't change and quick...watch and see.

[freedom44]

i am honestly very stunned at this development.
I know they have alot to worry about regarding their kurdish population, but i think the billions of dollars of aid was sufficient.

blah!

[maestro]

...outcome fell three votes short of the simple majority required by the constitution. He then closed parliament until Tuesday.

Holding their cards very close,.....playing later!

:-(

............................BTTT.....ping!

[alancarp]

Gee, some of those billions would go a long way towards starting a nice little homeland for the Kurds...

[End Times Sentinel]

Fine, they just saved the U.S. 15 Billion in bad loans.  We can set up in Armenia, Georgia or Azerbaijan just as easily.  And when the "democratic" government folds in a couple of years, we won't have to worry about losing an ally.

The fewer alliances we form with scumbag islamic governments, the better off we are.

 

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

[alancarp]

The parliament vote was 264-250 in favor, with 19 abstentions. But speaker Bulent Arinc said the outcome fell three votes short of the simple majority required by the constitution.

So who was counting the votes in those Broward County precincts???

[dmeara]

Really.. what would be so bad about an independent Kurdistan, after all?

[Republican Wildcat]

Need to get three of those 19 abstentions to come on board.

[Procyon]

Let's unload the ships at Haifa and roll everything through Jordan. Give the Jordies the $15 billion.

I have an idea the Turks don't want the US in the north, because when the war starts, they intend themselves to occupy northern Iraq to prevent the establishment of a Republic of Kurdistan.

[dalebert]

Wonder what they want now?

[rs79bm]

I say ta' hell with 'em if $20 Billion isn't enough. We don't need you either, Turkey.

[spitz]

Does this mean Turkey will suspend all overflights to Kuwait of American Aircraft from Europe? They’ve already held up the RAF deploying extra aircraft from Cyprus.

[eleni121]

Why is anyone surprised? Does no one remember Turks' complete lack of support for the US and allies in Desert Storm?

We don’t need Turkey in order to defeat Saddam Hussein!

The argument used by Turkey’s proponents and paid foreign agents that we cannot defeat or use force against Iraq without Turkey is without merit. The U.S. does not need the Incirlik NATO air base in southeast Turkey to use force against Iraq. The U.S. has several air bases as near and nearer to Iraq than Incirlik, including the British base on Cyprus and several U.S. bases in the Persian Gulf area and aircraft carriers. The Washington Post lists nine air bases in addition to Incirlik and aircraft carriers in an article "War Plans Target Hussein Power Base" (Wash. Post, Sept. 22, 2002, at A1, col. 5).

The Persian Gulf War proved that the U.S. does not need Turkey regarding our use of force against Saddam Hussein. Turkey refused the use of its air space and Incirlik during Desert Shield from August 2, 1990 to January 16, 1991; refused the U.S. request to open a second front against Iraq (Wash. Post, Jan. 16, 1991, at A6, col. 5) and allowed large-scale smuggling along its 206 mile border with Iraq (Wall Street Journal Oct. 30, 1990, at 1, col.1).

[what i think]

we've made a terrible mistake in assuming turkey would help us. those ships will have to be moved now to kuwait. i have heard that it will delay deployment by over 30 days, taking us more and more into the summer months.
bush should horsewhip the team that was in charge of this.