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Idiot GOP Senate Set to Shaft Estrada?
rushlimbaugh ^ | 2/28/2003 | rushlimbaugh

Posted on 02/28/2003 5:57:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW

I am more frosted at the Democrats for what they're doing to the Constitution vis-à-vis Miguel Estrada's than I am over the anti-war movement. Fox News reported that the GOP planned to call for a cloture vote on Estrada next week knowing they'd lose it. That would effectively amend the Constitution - illegally - to read that you need 60 votes instead of 51 to get a judicial nomination through.

Happily, it turns out the GOP isn't going to call such a vote. The offices of Senators Santorum and Hatch rang up my office on Friday, and said that the Fox story is not accurate. There will be no cloture vote. Hooray! If these Democrats want to filibuster the first Hispanic nominee to the D.C. Circuit Court, let them do it! I know they say there are new rules making a filibuster harder, but so what? And don't tell me that it's not "practical" anymore, because people have to go to the bathroom. That's nothing new.

Force them to get out there and filibuster this eminently qualified man, as rated unanimously by the American Bar Association. Miguel Estrada is just a name to us, but his life is being destroyed here. It's not because he's unqualified; it's because Democrats don't like how he might think. Read George Will's column. Chuck Schumer didn't bother to ask Estrada a single question. He claims not to know any less qualified judge, when in fact he knows less qualified judges who went to the Supreme Court! Just this week, President Bush pledged to stand by Estrada until he was sworn in. We know no other nominee has been asked to give nor should give opinions on issues that may come before the court. Their job is to apply the law, not to make law or let their opinions get in the way of rulings.

These senators have to back Bush and Estrada up. The Democrat attitude is, "We ran Washington for 40 years up until 1994, and Bush is illegitimate despite what the Constitution says about the Electoral College, so he has no right to appoint anyone." These people are treating the Constitution like toilet paper. Calling a cloture vote would overturn more than two centuries of Senate precedent and rewrite the constitutional definition of "advise and consent." We cannot allow that to happen. You have to care about this, folks!

These people aren't Democrats or liberals. They don't believe in the Constitution. They don't believe in individual rights, as affirmed in the 9th Amendment; in sharing power with the states, as described in the 10th Amendment; in free political speech protected in the 1st Amendment and shredded in campaign finance reform. They don't support the right to bear arms provided for in the 2nd Amendment. They don't respect private property rights protected by the 5th Amendment! If there's a blade of grass in the backyard, they call it "wetlands" and take it away! This assault must stop.

Listen to Rush...

(...react to the Fox News story, and reject the notion of a cloture vote by the GOP) (...demand Democrats be made to pay a price for shredding the Constitution)

Read More of Rush's Estrada Coverage… (Rush On A Roll: Anatomy of a Smear) (Rush On A Roll: Want Estrada? Declare Linda Daschle DOA) (The Limbaugh Library: Ken Starr Tips Us Off on Estrada) (EIB A-B: Estrada Qualifications Blow Away Breyer and Ginsburg)

Read the Questionable Fox News Article...

(FoxNews: Republicans Seek to End Debate on Estrada)

Read the George Will Column on Estrada...

(Washington Post: Coup Against the Constitution - George F. Will)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: constitution; estradafilibuster; filibuster; gop; rushlimbaugh; senatedemocrats
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To: TLBSHOW
Good thing you signed on FR before Howlin

Yet another thing you're wrong about.

481 posted on 03/01/2003 5:05:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin; TLBSHOW
Rush, like TLBSHOW, believed the original Fox story. Both were concerned that the GOP was beginning to act spineless.

Hatch the next day called Rush, said Fox wasn't true. Rush accepted the new information, corrected his position and printed an article (the title article for this thread) where in the second paragraph he called the Fox article inaccurate based on phone conversation with Hatch.

Hatch and Rush both called TLB, gave him the story. TLB argued with both of them and made up his own story: Rush listeners caused Hatch, and Frist, and Bush to rethink the strategy.

Senator Hatch called PhiKapMom, gave her the lowdown, then President Bush called Howlin and asked her to straighten out this TLB character (Bush nicknamed TLB "Stubborn"- the eighth unknown dwarf).

The rest is revealed in detail on this most interesting thread.


482 posted on 03/01/2003 5:07:25 PM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: PhiKapMom
see my last post 482. Is this accurate as you remember it?
483 posted on 03/01/2003 5:08:45 PM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: RobFromGa
Actually, Rush admitted he was wrong at 2:09 PM EST on Friday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/853849/posts?page=179#179

But, of course, we've now been told Rush can't be believed.
484 posted on 03/01/2003 5:09:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Actually, Rush admitted he was wrong at 2:09 PM EST on Friday.

I said Rush corrected his position didn't I? You wanna mess with me now...LOL

485 posted on 03/01/2003 5:13:10 PM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: Howlin
But, of course, we've now been told Rush can't be believed.

Rush will try to make himself look as goos as possible without lying, don't doubt that.

486 posted on 03/01/2003 5:14:13 PM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: RobFromGa
goos=good

This thread is going no where. It is very likely that Gulf War 2 is about to erupt and move Estrada to a burner off Bush's stove for a moment.

I think President Bush and his team have a lot to consider right now. The Senate has a plan coordinated with the President, but they are going to have to get Estrada confirmed by themselves for a little while.

I believe that the Dems will be in fillibuster when the attack starts...They will have an easy path off the limb they are on regarding estrada at that point, in the interest of getting involved in the War debate.

I can accept that Fox screwed up and printed a partially inaccurate article.
487 posted on 03/01/2003 5:23:36 PM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: Howlin
That does not look like he said he was wrong lol anyways who ever called told Rush a lie about the fox story. Which was correct the Gop were going to cave but funny they had to call Rush lol Yeah Rush moves mts for or against the GOP that is sure.


Rush just announced that he received calls from the offices of Hatch and Santorum that there will not be a cloture vote. Rush is renewed and invigorated.

I'll refrain from saying "I told you so".

(oops, guess I just did. Sorry! Couldn't resist)


179 posted on 02/28/2003 2:09 PM EST by cyncooper
488 posted on 03/01/2003 5:27:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: RobFromGa
Rush was lied to by whoever called him and said the Fox story was false.
489 posted on 03/01/2003 5:28:29 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: RobFromGa
That's perfect sir! I couldn't have written it better myself!

You made me laugh outloud with that post! Way to go!
490 posted on 03/01/2003 5:30:39 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: RobFromGa
I can accept that Fox screwed up and printed a partially inaccurate article.

With that I think this thread should end! That is what I have been screaming about on here when I kept getting told the Fox story was accurate!

THANK YOU!!!!

491 posted on 03/01/2003 5:33:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: PhiKapMom
just wanted to set the record straight. I'm glad you agree that this is completely accurate. I'm officially done with this thread. Have at it, TLB. Enjoy the fight.

disclaimer: If anyone calls me names, I reserve the right to return and defend myself-lol.

492 posted on 03/01/2003 5:36:00 PM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support Our Soldiers 100%)
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To: RobFromGa
I'm officially done with this thread. Have at it, TLB. Enjoy the fight.

I am with you!

493 posted on 03/01/2003 5:38:39 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: PhiKapMom
I am happy if in deed we are not going to cave and instead make the rats Filibuster 24/7 and get as much PR out about the rats shutting down the Govt in a time of war and the fact they are using the constitution to advance socialism in America. That is what must be done!

Do that and I am happy, hats off to Rush for getting the attention of the GOP and making them switch and not cave!
494 posted on 03/01/2003 5:42:37 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
To: ken5050

I just heard on Rush's show that Fox News Story about a cloture vote is false. Rush heard from Orrin Hatch's office for one thing about it. So don't believe all that you hear in the media about this Estrada nomination including Fox.

187 posted on 02/28/2003 2:28 PM EST by bradactor
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495 posted on 03/01/2003 5:56:45 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Rush was lied to by whoever called him and said the Fox story was false.

Now you're calling Rick Santorum's office and Orrin Hatch's office liars?

You really will say anything to try to justify your stance.

496 posted on 03/01/2003 5:57:48 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Rush was lied to by whoever called him and said the Fox story was false.

Now you're calling Rick Santorum's office and Orrin Hatch's office liars?

You really will say anything to try to justify your stance.

497 posted on 03/01/2003 6:04:28 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Rush was lied to by whoever called him and said the Fox story was false.

Now you're calling Rick Santorum's office and Orrin Hatch's office liars?

You really will say anything to try to justify your stance.

498 posted on 03/01/2003 6:04:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Rush was lied to by whoever called him and said the Fox story was false.

Now you're calling Rick Santorum's office and Orrin Hatch's office liars?

You really will say anything to try to justify your stance.

499 posted on 03/01/2003 6:04:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Rush was lied to by whoever called him and said the Fox story was false.

Now you're calling Rick Santorum's office and Orrin Hatch's office liars?

You really will say anything to try to justify your stance.

500 posted on 03/01/2003 6:04:30 PM PST by Howlin
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