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Idiot GOP Senate Set to Shaft Estrada?
rushlimbaugh ^ | 2/28/2003 | rushlimbaugh

Posted on 02/28/2003 5:57:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW

I am more frosted at the Democrats for what they're doing to the Constitution vis-à-vis Miguel Estrada's than I am over the anti-war movement. Fox News reported that the GOP planned to call for a cloture vote on Estrada next week knowing they'd lose it. That would effectively amend the Constitution - illegally - to read that you need 60 votes instead of 51 to get a judicial nomination through.

Happily, it turns out the GOP isn't going to call such a vote. The offices of Senators Santorum and Hatch rang up my office on Friday, and said that the Fox story is not accurate. There will be no cloture vote. Hooray! If these Democrats want to filibuster the first Hispanic nominee to the D.C. Circuit Court, let them do it! I know they say there are new rules making a filibuster harder, but so what? And don't tell me that it's not "practical" anymore, because people have to go to the bathroom. That's nothing new.

Force them to get out there and filibuster this eminently qualified man, as rated unanimously by the American Bar Association. Miguel Estrada is just a name to us, but his life is being destroyed here. It's not because he's unqualified; it's because Democrats don't like how he might think. Read George Will's column. Chuck Schumer didn't bother to ask Estrada a single question. He claims not to know any less qualified judge, when in fact he knows less qualified judges who went to the Supreme Court! Just this week, President Bush pledged to stand by Estrada until he was sworn in. We know no other nominee has been asked to give nor should give opinions on issues that may come before the court. Their job is to apply the law, not to make law or let their opinions get in the way of rulings.

These senators have to back Bush and Estrada up. The Democrat attitude is, "We ran Washington for 40 years up until 1994, and Bush is illegitimate despite what the Constitution says about the Electoral College, so he has no right to appoint anyone." These people are treating the Constitution like toilet paper. Calling a cloture vote would overturn more than two centuries of Senate precedent and rewrite the constitutional definition of "advise and consent." We cannot allow that to happen. You have to care about this, folks!

These people aren't Democrats or liberals. They don't believe in the Constitution. They don't believe in individual rights, as affirmed in the 9th Amendment; in sharing power with the states, as described in the 10th Amendment; in free political speech protected in the 1st Amendment and shredded in campaign finance reform. They don't support the right to bear arms provided for in the 2nd Amendment. They don't respect private property rights protected by the 5th Amendment! If there's a blade of grass in the backyard, they call it "wetlands" and take it away! This assault must stop.

Listen to Rush...

(...react to the Fox News story, and reject the notion of a cloture vote by the GOP) (...demand Democrats be made to pay a price for shredding the Constitution)

Read More of Rush's Estrada Coverage… (Rush On A Roll: Anatomy of a Smear) (Rush On A Roll: Want Estrada? Declare Linda Daschle DOA) (The Limbaugh Library: Ken Starr Tips Us Off on Estrada) (EIB A-B: Estrada Qualifications Blow Away Breyer and Ginsburg)

Read the Questionable Fox News Article...

(FoxNews: Republicans Seek to End Debate on Estrada)

Read the George Will Column on Estrada...

(Washington Post: Coup Against the Constitution - George F. Will)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: constitution; estradafilibuster; filibuster; gop; rushlimbaugh; senatedemocrats
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To: Always A Marine
I am cautiously watching to--and hoping. If the Republicans demonstrate possession of cajones, it will be the first time in a long time.
121 posted on 02/28/2003 9:55:39 PM PST by Pushi
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To: woodyinscc
it was a question and its just as Rush wrote it tonight.

titled Idiot GOP Senate Set to Shaft Estrada?

Fox News reported that the GOP planned to call for a cloture vote on Estrada next week knowing they'd lose it. That would effectively amend the Constitution - illegally - to read that you need 60 votes instead of 51 to get a judicial nomination through.

Happily, it turns out the GOP isn't going to call such a vote.

BUT SINCE HE WROTE HIS STORY WITH A QUESTION MARK HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IT OR THINKS ITS A MAYBE...


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And it says just what the story that Rush wrote and said what the Gop should do.

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If these Democrats want to filibuster the first Hispanic nominee to the D.C. Circuit Court, let them do it! I know they say there are new rules making a filibuster harder, but so what? And don't tell me that it's not "practical" anymore, because people have to go to the bathroom. That's nothing new.

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We know no other nominee has been asked to give nor should give opinions on issues that may come before the court. Their job is to apply the law, not to make law or let their opinions get in the way of rulings.

These senators have to back Bush and Estrada up. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022803/content/roll_3.guest.html
122 posted on 02/28/2003 9:59:18 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: justshe
So I was wrong and the fox story was wrong where I based my thoughts on this from this.

Apology.
123 posted on 02/28/2003 10:00:00 PM PST by chnsmok
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To: TLBSHOW
STOP IT!!!!

It is one thing to not admit when you are wrong. It is quite another to knowingly perpetuate a lie!

IDIOT GOP---- is a lie. The Republicans were NEVER GOING TO CAVE!

You cannot be this insecure that you refuse to take responsibility for your own statements and actions.

124 posted on 02/28/2003 10:01:35 PM PST by justshe (FREE MIGUEL !)
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To: justshe
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html
125 posted on 02/28/2003 10:05:37 PM PST by chnsmok
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To: chnsmok
that was a good thread filled more information of how this story unfolded.
126 posted on 02/28/2003 10:07:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: justshe
It is one thing to not admit when you are wrong. It is quite another to knowingly perpetuate a lie!

See posts 123 and 125.
127 posted on 02/28/2003 10:10:00 PM PST by chnsmok
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To: TLBSHOW
Gee, can you tell I am angry? LOL
128 posted on 02/28/2003 10:11:12 PM PST by chnsmok
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To: justshe
I apologized for going by the fox story as written last night for part of my opinion, but they cleared it up today.

and now I am just posting a story by Rush with his opinion and question mark that its a maybe they did....


and some other thoughts I have now that it is revised and they were going to decide on Monday when to call to end this. If I read Fox right, they stand by this story. As now written.
129 posted on 02/28/2003 10:12:25 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: chnsmok
bttt
130 posted on 02/28/2003 10:15:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: chnsmok
I've seen the actual title. I know the title is accurate. That has all been discussed. What some are now discussing is the jabs....and the wording......

"When Rush found out the Republicans were going to cave..."...when they were NEVER going to cave.

It is basically a dead horse. You would have to read the first 100 posts to see the context.

But.....'tis done. Or I am at least....lol

And yes....I saw TLB's apology.
131 posted on 02/28/2003 10:15:47 PM PST by justshe (FREE MIGUEL !)
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To: justshe; TLBSHOW
Then why the TLBSHOW bashing? And I have read the thread.
132 posted on 02/28/2003 10:18:12 PM PST by chnsmok
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To: CWW
** Why invoke cloture when your opponent is shooting himself in the foot!**

Well said!

133 posted on 02/28/2003 10:20:12 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: justshe
this was it...

So I was wrong and the fox story was wrong where I based my thoughts on this from this.


But was I?

134 posted on 02/28/2003 10:20:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
It says everything you say.

But you knew different, when you posted the thread!!!
135 posted on 02/28/2003 10:22:00 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: chnsmok; justshe; TLBSHOW
Then why the TLBSHOW bashing?

Have you followed TLBSHOW's postings for any length of time?

TLB's opinions change with the wind; he's about as easy to pin down as boiled okra.

136 posted on 02/28/2003 10:23:11 PM PST by Amelia (SHEESH!)
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To: chnsmok
I did not attack the person.....I questioned the motivation for the posts and the wording. MUCH different.

I made an attempt to explain my thinking on the Estrada thread to you....perhaps you missed it because you didn't respond.
137 posted on 02/28/2003 10:25:11 PM PST by justshe (FREE MIGUEL !)
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To: woodyinscc
Another mind reader no I said earlier Rush was going to write a story and put it on the web later. Well here it is.

ArcLight

Rush is now reviewing it all and will put the story at his web site later today, telling of the rats filibuster and says no one Bush wants will get in if this is allowed.

Not to mention Estrada life is being destroyed by the rats.


130 posted on 02/28/2003 1:27 PM EST by TLBSHOW

138 posted on 02/28/2003 10:25:52 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Amelia
Then argue his points (or hurl invectives), not his motivation.
139 posted on 02/28/2003 10:26:26 PM PST by chnsmok (Sheesh!)
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To: TLBSHOW
Thank you for admitting you made a mistake.

"But was I?"

Were you what?
140 posted on 02/28/2003 10:26:39 PM PST by justshe (FREE MIGUEL !)
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