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To: jwalsh07
The question of when life begins is a scientific one that is well settled. It begins at conception.

The sperm was alive before it got to the egg, which was also already alive. Therefore...

26 posted on 02/28/2003 10:03:21 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
>>The sperm was alive before it got to the egg, which was also already alive. Therefore...<<

Therefore the combination of two alive things create something not alive?

31 posted on 02/28/2003 10:06:24 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: biblewonk
The sperm was alive before it got to the egg, which was also already alive. Therefore...

you're argument is totally without merit because you are apparently genome challenged.

35 posted on 02/28/2003 10:08:01 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: biblewonk
Someone else: "The question of when life begins is a scientific one that is well settled. It begins at conception."

Soemthing alive grows ... .

You: "The sperm was alive before it got to the egg, which was also already alive. Therefore...

Therefore it is ALIVE and the beginning of a human being! I can't imagine why you use "biblewonk" as a moniker since you obviously don't take His word seriously.

270 posted on 02/28/2003 1:21:51 PM PST by nmh
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To: biblewonk; nmh; jwalsh07
Just for good measure, I'm going to shove this silly post (#26) down your throat where it belongs:

The question of when life begins is a scientific one that is well settled. It begins at conception. jwalsh07
The sperm was alive before it got to the egg, which was also already alive. Therefore... 26 posted by biblewonk

What jwalsh07 posted to you is absolutely accurate and you knew the context in which it was offered, that the conceptus is an individual human life begun at conception, not the haploid gametes or sex cells. Your sneaky effort to equate the sex cell (only 23 chromosomes) with the conceptus (46 chromosomes and a self-directing entity seeking survival in its environment, as opposed to the sex cell which is not seeking survival) is atleast disingenuous and at most a nihilist's way to discredit the individuality of the newly conceived individual human being that is the conceptus. So, what was your intent with that twisting, mischaracterization of jwalsh07's post?

290 posted on 02/28/2003 2:33:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: biblewonk
I believe Thomas Aquinas belief was in "halimorphism". Where the "container" should be complete for a human soul. His time table was the beginning of the third trimester, coinsidently that's when the brain waves start.
313 posted on 02/28/2003 4:40:48 PM PST by BabsC
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To: biblewonk
i don't really understand what you mean by this. if we're taking things that literally then it should be a crime for men to jack off....makes no sense.
359 posted on 03/02/2003 2:22:58 PM PST by watchme
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