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**VANITY** Top 10 Most Ridiculous Arguments Used By An Anti-War Bush Hater

Posted on 02/28/2003 9:06:29 AM PST by Zansman

My dear fellow Freepers,

The folloing is a list of the top 10 (in no particular order) most ridiculous things used by my anti-war leftist friend during our latest e-mail debat on Iraq. I thought you guys might enjoy ripping each of them apart as much as I did.

The names have been deleted to protect the ignorant.

1) The only documented "bomb-dropping" on Iraq since 1991 was, indeed, "ordered" by the Commander in Chief (both Clinton and Bush II)as a defensive measure by aircrews when they were "locked onto" and/or actually fired upon by Iraqi air defense missile sites.

2) Sure, Saddam hates the US (he's certainly not alone) for what we stand for, and for stymieing his foray into Kuwait. But, where is the PROOF that he does possess WMD--and that HE intends to use them against the US????

3) Clinton fired cruise missiles [I don't know how many] into Afghanistan.) The only missiles we've fired into Iraq since 1991 have been from aircraft when "locked onto" by an Iraqi air defense missile battery in the "no fly" zone.

4) Just the thought that we could go marching into Iraq, reducing it to rubble, and set up a western democratic government in a country that has been Muslim since its founding is morally repugnant to me. That's what I understand the "post-war plan" is. We didn't do that in Germany, Japan, South Korea, or Afghanistan. Why Iraq?

5) Now I will answer your question: What's the difference between Saddam in 1998 and Saddam now other than he's had 4+ more years to develop, manufacture, and hide his WMDs? Answer: Nothing that I know of.

6) The United States NEVER fired 450+ cruise missiles into Iraq--at any time in history. Period. Prove me wrong. That is the most blatant of your claims. Clinton ordered missiles fired into Afghanistan, not Iraq.

7) Which "defectors" have declared that Iraq has nuclear weapons? Give me one name and/or news article. You can't because there have been none.

8) On September 12, 2001 Osama bin Laden was the declared target. We didn't/couldn't get him. So, now Saddam Hussein is Target #1. Why wasn't he a declared target on 09-12-01?

9) Do you want to debate that Saddam was, tangentially, an early target because Bushy said that he (we?) was going after "all countries that harbor or support terrorists"? OK. But countries also having "weapons of mass destruction"? Then, why aren't we targeting Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Kazakstan, Georgia, Libya...North Korea... Germany...Russia???? Just SHOW ME SOME (real, not circumstantial) PROOF that ANY of these COUNTRIES are a DIRECT and IMMINENT THREAT to our security.

10) Today, we are regarded worldwide with an equal mixture of admiration, fear and hatred. We've been an open target for terrorists for years. Which of our "leaders" recognized this and did anything about it? Me, trust the "leaders." Hell, no. I trust the will of the American people.


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1 posted on 02/28/2003 9:06:29 AM PST by Zansman
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To: Zansman
You forgot that George Bush didn't really win the election and therefore has no right to send us to war. This is laughable since Clinton and Gore both have quietly supported the war on Iraq.
2 posted on 02/28/2003 9:15:02 AM PST by mamarainsberry (If I was an ostrich I could vote dem)
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To: Zansman
Why are you arguing with someone so stupid?
3 posted on 02/28/2003 9:27:30 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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#11. This war is about stealing Iraqs oil. HUH? Last time? Ummmm, forget what I said about last time-THIS time its about stealing the oil-honest! No-really!
4 posted on 02/28/2003 9:27:30 AM PST by icwhatudo (If its about stealing oil, why didn't we do it last time?)
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To: Zansman
No Blood for Oil!

Why yes!! You're right!!! It IS all about OIL!!! How could I be so blind!

All we need to do is Drill AWNR!
Drilling not Killing!
Drilling not Killing!
Drilling not Killing!
Drilling not Killing!...

Stops 'em dead in their tracks.
5 posted on 02/28/2003 9:29:26 AM PST by null and void (Stops 'em dead in their tracks. When in doubt, pit one leftist issue against another...)
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To: Zansman
These "debates" get a little tedious. Anyone with half a brain could educate themselves concerning these "questions".

There are valid arguments agianst war with Iraq, but these aren't them.

Try this next time:

Ask your friend if he supports continuing the course we have followed in the past of inspections and sanctions. If he says "yes" than tell him he is supporting starving Iraqi children at the clip of 2,000 a day (per Ramsey Clark's CANSWER).

I think we'd have trouble killing that many kids a day if we invaded.

Just a little fun with hypocrisy.

6 posted on 02/28/2003 9:35:20 AM PST by Damocles (sword of..)
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"1) The only documented "bomb-dropping" on Iraq since 1991 was... when they were "locked onto" and/or actually fired upon by Iraqi air defense missile sites."

So what was Operation Desert Fox (1998) all about then?

"6) The United States NEVER fired 450+ cruise missiles into Iraq--at any time in history. Period. Prove me wrong..."

Okay, if you insist:

http://www.fas.org/news/iraq/1998/12/19/981219-uk-mod.htm

"some 300 Tomahawk cruise missiles have been fired and around 100 air-launched cruise missiles have been used"

That's half the record. The rest of the record is they were shot on Iraq in just 3 days!

The opening salvo was made by the Navy, firing 200 Tomahawks in one day:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/stories/apmilitary121798.htm

7 posted on 02/28/2003 9:36:18 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: Zansman
Your "friend" is an adject idiot
8 posted on 02/28/2003 9:53:42 AM PST by clamper1797 (Credo Quia Absurdum)
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#13 We need the UN's approval:

Thugs and dictators run 80% of the countries that make up the UN. 10% would surrender their freedom for a good bottle of wine and a bagel. The remaining countries appreciate the fact we liberating them and our with us.

9 posted on 02/28/2003 10:25:17 AM PST by 11th Commandment
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#13 We need the UN's approval:

Thugs and dictators run 80% of the countries that make up the UN. 10% would surrender their freedom for a good bottle of wine and a bagel. The remaining countries appreciate the fact we liberated them and are with us. (Sorry for the Grammar)

10 posted on 02/28/2003 10:26:45 AM PST by 11th Commandment
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"7) Which "defectors" have declared that Iraq has nuclear weapons? Give me one name and/or news article. You can't because there have been none.

Saddamn's Bomb Maker

11 posted on 02/28/2003 10:34:02 AM PST by Hatteras (The Thundering Herd Of Turtles ROCK!)
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