Saddam seen using proxy groups to attack the U.S.

Washington Times ^ | 2/25/03 | Bill Gertz

[kattracks]

A recent CIA analysis concluded Saddam Hussein is highly likely to use a "third party" terrorist group to conduct a proxy attack on the United States in advance of American military operations, according to U.S. officials.

Analysts within the CIA's intelligence directorate reached the conclusion based on a complicated process that applied statistical probabilities to unknown threat scenarios, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

[KaiserofKrunch]

"third party" terrorist groups - DNC, CNN, CBS, ACLU...etc...etc...

Too funny!!!

[harpseal]

A story regarding the nature of the threat on domestic terrorism and the means used to evaluate that threat

[Eaker]

When one attempts to predict every scenerio at some point in time one starts to give the opposition ideas that they had not thought of.

I think that we are at this point if not past it.

The time to attack is ASAP and if it takes us this many months to prepare for Iraq then our state of readiness is not what it should / could be.

Stay safe; stay armed.
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[First_Salute]

Bump.

[Free the USA]

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[Travis McGee]

Here's how it works, IMHO. Saddam uses a dual firing key system, this is how:

/1/ His conventional intelligence agents smuggle sealed crates into the USA; suitcases, boxes, whatever. These agents are unaware of the contents, it's just another delivery job. They follow orders blindly because they are constantly tested: get it wrong, your children will be tortured to death back in Iraq. This is the type of things agents do routinely; bring in radio transmitters, guns, cash, explosives, false documents etc. Standard everyday stuff. The agents put the sealed boxes into caches. They can be buried, put in mini storages, safe houses, whatever. Standard stuff, not rocket science. The agents just preposition the stuff, they don't know what it is, it's just another job and they go home to Iraq.

/2/ When Saddam wants to "fire" his prepositioned WMD, he merely contacts Al Queda and tells them where the crates are hidden. They are jihadis out to kill infidels right away, they do not wait for further instructions, if you tell them where a box full of one kilo jars of anthrax is hidden, they will begin to use them right away. They are the "second key" in Saddam's dual key fail-safe system.

Targets can be the subways of ten major cities, and our entire USPS, UPS and FedEx system. Forget whether there are 1,000 or 100,000 casualties, our economy will be utterly wrecked by a 100 kilo anthrax attack. We still have major postal centers shut 16 months after a 3 gram warning attack.

And I believe the modality of that attack may prove my thesis: when Saddam wanted to send a "warning shot" across our bow, he only had to have his Iraqi intelligence agent pass 3 grams of anthrax (less than a film can full) to Atta in Prague.

[Travis McGee]

Read #26 to see how it can work. Al Queda does not even need to know of the existance of a WMD cache in the USA to use it the day after they are tipped off by Saddam to its location.

A crate full of jars of anthrax, passed out among five or ten jihadists, utterly would wreck our economy, never mind the human casualties.

[vbmoneyspender]

Travis, lets assume your thesis is correct and then lets assume that our gov't knows about it and is hesitant to attack because of this doomsday scenario. If this is the case, why come out in July and August of last year and flatly state that Hussein's regime had to be destroyed, i.e. changed. And then why follow up with months of diplomacy and shipping 200,000 troops into the region only to back off if there isn't a coup. If that is what has been going on, that will be an utter disaster. It will guarantee an attack inside the United States by Hussein or, if not him, then someone else.

It seems to me that under any scenario, it does not make sense to hold back for fear of an attack. The attack is going to come whether we like it or not. So we might as well push forward before Hussein has even more time to preposition even more weapons.

[robomurph]

Travis

I think your analysis is spot-on. It's also damm terrifying. Does anyone know where I can get some Cipro? Stay safe.

robomurph

[Travis McGee]

We civilians are just peeking through the keyhole and see about 2% of what the NSC knows. I can't begin to guess what they do or don't know, or their reasoning.

[Travis McGee]

It's going to get interesting after we attack. Good painter type filter masks take out 99.5% of anthrax sized particles, they are wise to have around in case you must go to the post office (for example) post anthrax attack.

[SLB]

We civilians are just peeking through the keyhole and see about 2% of what the NSC knows.

There is nothing to see here, move along.

In all seriousness, this threat is not going to go away or shrink. Once the troops are in place I say we go for it. Whether it be the first of March or April. I would say th esooner the better, although with the delay of getting troops into Turkey I have to lean towards a April fools day surprise on Iraq.

[Travis McGee]

I just hope we don't delay too long and follow Barbarossa in history.

[The Great Satan]

The time to attack is ASAP and if it takes us this many months to prepare for Iraq then our state of readiness is not what it should / could be.

Guess what? Our state of readiness is not what it should be. Not by a long shot.

[The Great Satan]

Does anyone know where I can get some Cipro?

You can easily purchase Cipro and Doxy over the web. I stocked up with sixty days of supplies of each after 9-11, since it seemed likely that Saddam would follow that up with the anthrax gambit -- I mean, what other options would he have for a follow up given the weaponry at his disposal? However, the reality is that any attack strain would most likely be antibiotic resistant. That said, those antibiotics are good for a range of possible pathogens, and combination dosing with both may provide some measure of protection.

[The Great Satan]

When one attempts to predict every scenerio at some point in time one starts to give the opposition ideas that they had not thought of.

Saddam had ten years to figure out his moves before he hit us, and he's no dummy.

[The Great Satan]

I could have sworn you were saying we wouldn't attack until the end of this year?

That's true too.

[Travis McGee]

Don't rule out CIA pettiness. They missed the Atta Prague handoff, so it didn't happen. "That's our story and we're sticking to it."

[sneakypete]

Your homework for tonight -- pull head out of posterior and think about how delaying an attack only gives time to the enemy to further carry out their plans.

The advantage of delaying the ultimate attack on Iraq is that it DOES give him time to organize and emplace strike teams to attack us in the US,and these attacks will be the justification Ali Bubba needs to launch his political war.