The 1 weapon essential for victory: Just wonders of Americans have stomach for what lies ahead

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, February 21, 2003 | Bob Just

[JohnHuang2]

Friday, February 21, 2003

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[kms61]

Couple of points....

AQ was able to hijack four planes simultaneously, so I wouldn't put anything past them. However, a scenario like the one the author poses would be exponentially more sophisticated and difficult to pull off. That said, I think we ARE in line for more attacks, and I frankly wonder why there haven't been a lot more since 9/11.

Second, we're targets now just Because we exist. Whatever we do, the terrorists will find some reason to attack us. Back down on Iraq? Then Israel will be the issue. If not Israel, something else. It's a fight to the finish now, whether the finish is ten years, fifty, or a hundred years down the road.

By and large, we didn't falter during the Cold War, because we knew it was either Us or Them. The same applies in this new conflict.

[Fee]

I disagree with the article. Vietnam was a war we fought overseas. Unfortunately the side we fought for was corrupt and incompetent. Our leaders limited the operations of the war to containment only. The enemy can retreat to a protected santuary to come back and hit our troops over and over. The war against AQ is different. It is our homeland that is attacked. The Arab attackers can not hide amongst us and there is no safe sanctuary for the enemy to regroup. This war will be different. I liken it to the Indian Wars. The enemy will learn that if the American people are brutalized, we will brutalize them to the point of extinction. Just look what happen to the American Indians.

[MHGinTN]

Consider that even now – with the 9-11 attacks still vivid in most people's minds – it's obvious that Americans are less unified. And it may get a lot worse. And the democrat party of America has been working tirelessly to insure this flame is fanned to fevered level! If we fall, it will be from within at the hands of power-lusting bitter nuts who have shown they will do anything to regain power, even sacrifice this nation's citizens.[Don't believe it? Look at their long-standing defense of the indefensible, the infanticide of partial birth abortion!] May God grant US the time and attention to throw the bastards from office via the election process, so that the repudiation will stem their destructive 'lie'berlism for a generation.

[MHGinTN]

Still have trouble swallowing the truth?... 9/11/2001 is the direct result of a degenerate democrat president doing everything he could (with full party support) to prevent this nation from realizing just how abjjectly impotent his foreign policy program was in acknowledging and dealing with terrorism. Appeasement emboldens the enemies of this nation, especially fanatical religious totalitarians.

[Russell Scott]

I'll keep repeating myself. There is no, none, nada, snowballs chance in hell, that this world can survive well into the future without divine intervention. Repeat after me and God's word, "unless those days are shortened (by direct intervention from Heaven), no flesh would survive (the coming nuclear holocaust). The good news, "on account of the elect I (God through His Son (Jesus Christ) and His Bride (the elect perfect church) will shorten those days. Now you know why Jesus said "let not your heart be troubled". Man's greatest adventure is about to begin, just as his worst nightmare is ending.

[EGPWS]

No one can doubt the fierce commitment of radical Islamists who are willing to kill themselves in waging this war of terror on America.

No sane person without a "more precious" political agenda anyway.

As it has been conveyed in the past, the terrorists will hit hard when least expected and I still feel this is their agenda.

Good post JH2!

[geopyg]

10 to 15 years ago no one could imagine not living under the threat of nuclear destruction, and until recently the threat was largely gone. (I think the fear of TOTAL destruction is still in general gone). It's the same with terrorism (I hope) - some day THAT threat will be gone too.

I wonder where in the timeline of this article we shut the borders? And when will the internment of middle-easterners happen? As bad as the internment of the Japanese during WWII was, I wonder how many acts of sabotage, spying, etc. were stopped. (I guess one way to answer that would be to see how many Germans or Italians did bad stuff.)

[justa-hairyape]

During the Vietnam war, the media sources that Americans had was severly limited. Lets see, CBS, NBC, ABC or local tv stations and the local newspaper. That was it. Today there is the internet, talk radio and some alternative media outlets. Also, we currently dont have a failed control freak as President (Take your pick LBJ or Nixon). We have a President who deeply understands what is at stake here. Reference his use of the word 'crusades' early on. The plain fact of the matter is these terrorists want Americans as either Islamists or dead and buried. The attacks or 'Acts' are comming whether we fight them or not. Just look what giving land to Palestinian terrorists (ie - not fighting) did for Israel. We must fight this battle. Can you imagine the courage Americans were required to muster to board ships headed to Europe to liberate it from Hitler ? We did it then, because we knew that if we left him alone, Hitler would eventually be coming for us. Do you really thing that people who refer to us as the Great Satan will ever actually leave us alone ?

[Iris7]

I tell you the truth, John. (My respects, by the way.)

If those people do something like the scenario you post, and I live, we will kick their butts. And I mean this as Admiral Halsey used the term. There will be no survivors.

[Iris7]

And anyone who is with the enemy, whether they live or were born in the United States, man, woman, or child, will be killed.

[JohnHuang2]

Couldn't agree with you more.

[Unknowing]

We have no choice but to endure, and there yet remains much strength in our people. One more hit within our borders on such a scale as 9/11 and so many arguments for complacency and appeasement will disappear, IMHO.

If the terrs prove again that they can strike with such coordinated operational sophistication, nobody will be able to argue that 9/11 was an aberration. If the terrs attack with bio agents or radiation, nobody will argue that our existence is not threatened. Without those rhetorical gimmicks, the response of the American psyche should then tilt well toward the extreme "fight" side of the "fight/flight" response, we might guess. A shift in the group zeitgeist perhaps somewhat like the citizens who, after ambivilently opposing the tax increase to build the new stadium, then get all excited when the home team executes a championship victory.

Following such atrocities, I think that we would witness a lot of different kinds of "Korematsu" type treatment of targeted groups, including but not limited to internment camps on the basis of criminal associations, electronic tracking on the basis of immigration status, and infiltration arguably on the basis of religious affiliation. All of this would be likely be considered permissible under the US Supreme Court's decision in Korematsu v. U.S. [323 U.S. 214 (1944)].

In Korematsu, the Court upheld the constitutionality of the infamous eviction order, President Roosevelt's Executive Order No. 9066, 7 Fed. Reg., 1407. In a previous case, Hirabayashi v. U.S., the Court decided that the evictions and curfews did not unconstitutionally discriminate against persons of "ethnic affiliation" with the enemy people, and wherein the Court stated bluntly that "[w]e cannot close our eyes to the fact, demonstrated by experience, that in time of war residents having ethnic affiliations with an invading enemy may be a greater source of danger than those of a different ancestry." [320 U.S. 81, 101-102 (1943)].

These cases have not since been overturned and remain good law, even now ready to be put to use when the "invading enemy" clause of the above Hirabayashi dictum appears sufficiently analogous, in my humble opinion. So, when it comes down to it, America will not be constrained by our own Constitution from protecting ourselves. Too many come here today, but they may well be entering a very difficult trap which could both eliminate them and also bring unintended sad consequences for their kin folk.

So we might endeavor to plant the seeds of mental toughness within the minds and hearts of our associates, friends and family members who remain naive to the realities of the world. Giving a preparedness pamphlet to an elderly relative, or buying a box of JHP cartridges for a friend who's still in denial, can serve to plant such seeds of mental toughness. Even challenges such as those described in the article can be overcome with but a little faith.

[snickeroon]

Not only do I agree with your post, I fear this nation has already been led down a side path to IGNORING terrorist attacks. The war started without us...I believe history will much later show TWA 800 and OKC to be crafted by terrorists and covered up by the aforementioned dem degenerate.

Frankly, I realize that there are many that will tell me that the aluminum foil is blinding me to reason, but personally, I find the fire in NH to be suspicious....one of the the major clues, (which will be mis-placed by sunrise), is the guy who called news reporters after three a.m. to express surprise at the pyro show he did not plan or expect had led to such a tragedy.... we were warned not more than a week ago that this kind of venue is a very attractive target....while not a bomb, it would be relatively easy to plan, execute....and unfortunately cover-up as a tragic circumstance.

It is very easy for a number of "accidents" when combined in venues like the Chicago nightclub (already cited for violations), to be caused by independent terrorists "for the cause...." Now, the true test is will responsibility be taken? AND IF or WHEN it is, will we KNOW it???

While in agreement that accidents and tragedies can and do happen, if we stop and really look at this before it has been taken apart and redesigned by national mainstream news, perhaps we have some information that will help us start to prepare for chaos and very real threats in day to day living.

[DooDahhhh]

On the other hand, the terrorist have a huge ordeal to undertake if they intend to destroy us, destroy themselves, and take over our land. First of all, there is the fact that there are huge numbers of us,which would require WMD, and I mean MASS. And I still don't get what they acquire to destroy their targets and destroy themselves in the process.........something is wrong with their thinking! Which leads me to believe that there is something genetically wrong with these sob's.

[backhoe]

John, ( a good morning to you... for some reason I missed my usual 4:00 reville and am just getting started ) I can't even pretend to guess the answer to this.

On the one hand, I see so much evidence of a decadent, degenerate, corrupt popular culture- just turn on the TV, or look around your own home town...

On the other hand, I'll never forget "let's roll," or the fact that all those firemen & policemen charged up into burning buildings everyone else was charging out of...

I just can't judge, but then again, there is history- what we did to Hitler's Thousand-Year Reich.

"Interesting times..."

I've said ( low-key ) from the beginning that we are locked in a death struggle with radical Islam... we'll either get the hardness we need to win, or shortly all our women-folk will be swathed in Burkas and confined to their houses... there's no "third way..."

[JohnHuang2]

G'morning, my friend, and well said.

[Centurion2000]

I have to disagree with this one in a big way. When the American Indians fought back with 'terror' attacks on men women and children, the American people marched forth and EXTERMINATED the culture.

When the Nazis and Japanese threatened America directly, those cultures were wiped off the face of the Earth.

If the terrorists of the Middle East were to pull this off, every middle eastern nation even suspected of having these guys in their midst would get letters from the US bluntly stating to police their own or face extermination. Mecca and Medina might wind up as 'object examples' of American fury before this is all over.

[FreedomPoster]

>>As bad as the internment of the Japanese during WWII was, I wonder how many acts of sabotage, spying, etc. were stopped.

There is relatively recently available info that we knew of saboteur cells in the U.S. among Americans of Japanese heritage. We could not take out the cells without likely revealing that we had broken their communications codes, destroying this supremely valuable source of intelligence. Thus, the decision was made to intern everyone, and not just take out the cells.

See Magic: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence and the Evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast during WW II.

From the review in the Amazon link above:

In late 1940 members of the U.S. Army Signal Intelligence Service broke Japan's highest level diplomatic code and then constructed a machine that was an analog of the one used by the Japanese. This allowed the U.S. to read Japan's diplomatic traffic from then until after the end of the war. Intelligence thus gained was cover named MAGIC because it seemed that only magicians could have produced it.

Among the decoded messages of 1941 were a number detailing espionage planning and operations involving Japanese-Americans along the West Coast. In February 1942 President Roosevelt authorized the evacuation of all persons of Japanese ancestry.

In 1983 a congressional commission, ignoring available declassified intelligence and ignorant of MAGIC revelations, concluded the President's action was the result of racism, war hysteria and lack of political will.

Now for the first time David D. Lowman, using MAGIC messages and declassified Army, Navy and FBI reports, presents the real reasons for the evacuation. As a former high level officer in the National Security Agency and a witness before congressional committees dealing with the evacuation he was uniquely qualified to tell this story. Those who could never quite believe the base motives attributed to our wartime leaders and our country will find Lowman's story compelling.

Important historical information for dealing with leftists screaming about the racism of Japanese internments in WWII.