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Anti-war Protests Anger U.S. Troops Inside Kuwait
The Detroit News | Tuesday, February 18, 2003 | M.E. Sprengelmeyer

Posted on 02/18/2003 7:26:58 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER

Some see America’s patriotic mood waning.

Campujairi, Kuwait – The peace protesters might as well be marching right under the tank barrels.

U.S. troops amassed in the Kuwaiti desert couldn’t avoid news of anti-war protests that swept the globe over the weekend, and it is making some angry, defensive, fired-up and anxious.

They see scattered news reports of opposition to a possible war against Iraq, but the hardest-hitting bulletins come in phone calls home to worried wives and loved ones, said Sgt. 1st Class Victor Oravec, 41, of Fort Knox, Ky., of the U.S. Army’s 3-7 Cavalry.

“They’re saying, ‘Why are we over here when everyone’s over here saying we shouldn’t be?’” Oravec said.

“They hear it. They bring it up to me, and I squash it by keeping them busy, reminding them why they’re here,” Oravec said, just before leading his tank maintenance unit in an all-night training exercise across the Kuwaiti desert.

Many of the soldiers who might be called to fight against Iraq were too young to remember the emotional protests that marked the end of the Vietnam War. Many had not even been born.

Still, some say they take the anti-war protests personally – questioning the jobs they do and their boss, President Bush.

“They get down,” said Oravec, a veteran of the 1991 war against Iraq. “That’s when I come around, try to get them work to do. That’s the only thing I can think of to keep their minds off home and what their wives are telling them.”

Capt. John Turner, 26, of Colonial Heights, Va., whose father was a med-evac pilot for the Army in Vietnam, said soldiers are not decision-makers and can’t afford to get distracted from their training.

“I’m not in this line of work for political reasons. I didn’t come here to be a politician,” Turner said.

Still, he’s especially angry about opposition at the United Nations from France, a NATO ally.

“How would they feel if it was the Eiffel Tower that got hit into (on Sept. 11)?” he asked.

The troops see a possible war against Iraq as part of the ongoing war on terrorism, as the Bush administration targets alleged weapons of mass destruction that could fall into the hands of terrorists.

Protesters call that an unfounded or unproven claim being used to justify a war to control more of the Middle East’s vast oil reserves.

The “No blood for oil” slogan was used in opposition to the 1991 war, too. But back then, in the war to liberate Kuwait from Iraqi invaders, the protests did not seem as widespread and the troops did not take them so personally, Gulf War veterans said.

“That’s their right to protest as long as they know that’s their opinion, not ours,” said 1st Sgt. Stephen Edgerton, 36, a Gulf War veteran from Blackshear, Ga.

“When you’re younger, you’re a little more eager to go out and pick a fight with somebody,” Edgerton said. “With age, you’re not as quick to jump into things without thinking them out first.”

But for soldiers, he said, the bottom line is simple: “I support my Commander in Chief. That’s my job.”

Pvt. Wesley Carr, 23, of Virginia Beach, Va., said soldiers are the last ones who want to rush into unnecessary wars.

“I can understand why they want to protest, because they don’t want any harm to come to us. But a lot of them don’t understand,” Carr said. “I hope, like everyone else, that it does end peacefully. But if it doesn’t and we have to go to war, we have to think of the safety of the United States and all these people here.”

Privately, some soldiers wonder if the patriotic mood and pro-military spirit in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks has evaporated.

With all its soldiers and high-tech war fighting machines, the U.S. military would not have had all its recent success if the soldiers didn’t get so much support from the public, Edgerton said.

“They don’t have to support what’s happening,” he said, “but at least support the soldiers”

Iraq Update
1st U-2 Mission: Iraq reported the first flight by an American U-2 surveillance plane Monday in support of the U.N. inspection mission, marking another concession by the Baghdad government in hopes of staving off a U.S. –led attack. The flight lasted four hours.

Turkey Delays:
Turkey’s prime minister on Monday ruled out a parliamentary vote to allow tens of thousands of U.S. combat troops on its territory until Turkish and U.S. officials agree on the conditions of the deployment.


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KEYWORDS: antiamericanpos; appeasementweanies; appeaseniks; democrats; ingrates; janefondalovers; jerks; marxists; saddamsbuddies; supportourtroops; traitors
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To: BOBTHENAILER
>>“They get down,” said Oravec, a veteran of the 1991 war against Iraq. “That’s when I come around, try to get them work to do. That’s the only thing I can think of to keep their minds off home and what their wives
are telling them.”<<

If this guy doesn't believe in his mission any more than halfheartedly giving them "chores to do" because it's all he can do to "keep their minds" off of what the peaceniks say, he has no business in a leadership position, IMHO.
41 posted on 02/18/2003 8:04:23 AM PST by SerpentDove (Shave the whales.)
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To: cgk
Thanks, friend -- and thanks for posting that link (#40) :^)
42 posted on 02/18/2003 8:04:48 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: BOBTHENAILER
>>“How would they feel if it was the Eiffel Tower that got hit into (on Sept. 11)?” he asked.<<

Ooooh, the Eiffel Tower. That might've killed three people or so!
43 posted on 02/18/2003 8:05:11 AM PST by SerpentDove (Shave the whales.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Let's call all these protesters..."The ANTI-AMERICA Coalition"!!
44 posted on 02/18/2003 8:05:13 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: BOBTHENAILER
btw, thanks for the ping, my friend :^)
45 posted on 02/18/2003 8:05:41 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Great post.... let's make sure that we get good attendance at the Support-the-Troops rallies over the next two weekends, and send the articles and coverage to our soldiers!
46 posted on 02/18/2003 8:05:53 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Pippin

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47 posted on 02/18/2003 8:06:37 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Grampa Dave; MadIvan; happygrl
Support British troops also BUMP!
Their mission is even harder, their people is opposed to the war, unlike in the US.
Let´s not forget the British forces!!
48 posted on 02/18/2003 8:06:58 AM PST by Michael81Dus (You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
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To: Teacher317
Thanks :^) And great suggestion!
49 posted on 02/18/2003 8:07:03 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I hope our troops realize that the vast majority of us are very thankful for the sacrifices they make... They are true American Heroes... they should just ignore these nuts that are anti-American.
50 posted on 02/18/2003 8:07:03 AM PST by TexasGunLover
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To: JohnHuang2
God bless our President, God bless our Troops, and God bless the United States of America!

Beautiful essay JH2.

By the time this is all over, we're gonna make the left drown in their hypocrisy and cring in their fear that you aptly described in your opening paragraphs.

51 posted on 02/18/2003 8:07:36 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Pippin
Oh, c'mon now, Pipp-ster!
Tell us what you really think, ok?

Seriously, your rant is well said. Anybody who thinks communism/socialism is dead needs only look as far as last weekend's rallies to see its ugly face.

This is a war against those who would kill us all...and we will only win it when we have 'them' on their knees pleading for their miserable lives.

HJ
52 posted on 02/18/2003 8:07:52 AM PST by HiJinx (R U snowed in?)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Thank you, friend.

By the time this is all over, we're gonna make the left drown in their hypocrisy and cring in their fear that you aptly described in your opening paragraphs.

Amen.

53 posted on 02/18/2003 8:11:09 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Alamo-Girl
I recall that in the early stages of Afghanistan, the media and left-wingers were trying to sell it as a "quagmire" -another "Vietnam." IMHO, the anti-war protests had little to do with Iraq and everything to do with Bush.

I agree

54 posted on 02/18/2003 8:11:26 AM PST by Mo1 (25 + inches of snow? ..... Where the heck is that Global Warming they promised us?)
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To: Michael81Dus
Thank you, Michael, for reminding us. America has many allies helping out in the war on terrorism, countries whose military are actively engaged. They include England, Canada, Germany, Spain, and Norway to name just a few.

IIRC, Germany just took over control of one of the bases in Afghanistan. Yes, we need to remember the troops of all of our allies, and thank them as best we can for their help in standing against tyranny and terror.

HJ
55 posted on 02/18/2003 8:13:21 AM PST by HiJinx (Visit the Canteen!)
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To: Flurry
>>I punched a whining liberal telling me "it's the oil stupid" in the mouth.<<

Good for you. I don't blame you one bit.

I'm about at that point myself.
56 posted on 02/18/2003 8:14:03 AM PST by SerpentDove (Shave the whales.)
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To: Damocles
The Glenn Beck program is organizing several freedom rallys across America. If you can, find a city near you and join up.

Denver had a rally like this Sunday. It got 3 minutes coverage on the local news, first story. I was shocked. The "peace" rallies the day before in a couple of CO towns had to be broken up by police, tear gas and arrests. Not this one though, they made me proud and the soldiers should be proud that there are people who support them.

57 posted on 02/18/2003 8:15:00 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Flurry
I'm doing my part. I punched a whining liberal telling me "it's the oil stupid" in the mouth. I told him if we was against war he's better keep his butt on th floor or I'd knock him down again.

They don't realize the simmering anger they are bringing to bear on themselves, the discredit they bring on their ideas. I hope we can destroy this element of society just as you destoyed the whining lib you put on the floor.

58 posted on 02/18/2003 8:15:04 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
I HOPE PRESIDENT BUSH IS READING THIS!!! WE CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER!! We are putting our soldiers in TERRIBLE DANGER by letting time pass by!! THOSE FREAKIN BASTARD LIBERAL HIPPIE FRUIT CAKES are winning the war of nerves!! COME ON MR. PRESIDENT, LET'S ROLL!!!
59 posted on 02/18/2003 8:15:53 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: TexasGunLover; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Here's one way for FReepers to show their support. FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub has set up a central clearing house of links we can use to e-mail support to both American and Allied service personnel. His Canteen Post Office also lists snail mail addresses for care packages, and some very good hints for what to send in them, and how to send them. It's well worth the visit!

Please Thank someone in the military for ensuring our Freedom.
Take a moment and Thank a Service Man or Woman.
Just Click on the graphic to SEND a message to someone in the military.

60 posted on 02/18/2003 8:16:08 AM PST by HiJinx (Visit the Canteen!)
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