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SCHRODER COVERED UP IRAQI SMALLPOX STOCKPILING !!!!
Frankfurter Allgemeiner Zeitung /Andrew Sullivan ^
| Feb 17, 2003
| In German
Posted on 02/17/2003 3:01:51 PM PST by The Raven
WHAT SCHRODER COVERED UP:
Astonishing piece in the Frankfurter Allgemeiner Zeitung today. Just before the German elections last year, German intelligence found very serious evidence of Iraq's stockpiling of smallpox bioweapons. The report came with a "high degree of confidence." The piece alleges that Schroder helped bury the report, so as not to get him off-message during his anti-American campaign. I'm afraid I can't seem to find the story in the English language edition of the FAZ. But here's the German version.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; iraq; smallpox; weasels
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To: The Raven
Remember, people in our intell community were saying they cant share everything with the public? Maybe this is one reason; Powell and the CIA have this info, but would be very uncomfortable letting Germany know we are spying on them. Esp when we are trying to get them to go along with us in the U.N. Just a theory.
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posted on
02/17/2003 3:54:25 PM PST
by
menotyu
(Courage is not the absence of fear, it's the conquering of it !)
To: eabinga
In this article under the paragraph
Planspiele der Innenminister, experts from the BND and BfV say they have evidence in their possesion that Saddam is training suicide bombers. These Iraqis, along with Al-Qaida, Palastinians and Irani Mujahedeen, are considered a grave threat.
There's other information besides that.
N24..Die Bedrohung Steigt
longjack
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posted on
02/17/2003 3:58:30 PM PST
by
longjack
To: geedee; americanbychoice
Ping...can you help with a German translation?
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posted on
02/17/2003 3:59:46 PM PST
by
Myrddin
To: thinktwice
Yes, and it proves what Rush was saying today. He said that there has to be some really major reason that the French and Germans do not want war in Iraq.
Rush reasoned it was because there is tons of evidence that both countries have been hiding information about Iraq (which the story proves), or else there is tons of evidence both countries have asisted Iraq in acquiring and building its nuclear capabilities.
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posted on
02/17/2003 4:05:30 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
( Yo! Syracuse)
To: longjack
45
posted on
02/17/2003 4:10:26 PM PST
by
eabinga
To: The Raven
Here's a babelfish translation.
Fear of Scuds and assassins Israel, the United States, Great Britain, France wappnen themselves against smallpox notices joeb.
JERUSALEM, 17. February. Since end past yearly debates Israel a preventing inoculation against the smallpox. The nation is convinced of the fact that the Iraq Israel citizen with that can actually contaminate disappeared believed illness. Of the spreading of the exciter by Scud rockets or drones one does not only think.
The illness could be spread also over an assassin, is feared. Nevertheless the government could not struggle through itself to let the entire nation inoculate. It is however sufficiently vaccine for the emergency available, and it gives sufficient time with an attack, in order to after-inoculate, it is said.
So far nevertheless about 20,000 Israelis, above all the medical personnel were immunisiert. Yehuda Danon of the University of Tel Aviv, which advises the American military in this thing, reports on only one handful of Israeli patients, who are gotten sick after the inoculation at smallpox. Certainly each third is particularly tired, a third has head or pains of the joints.
Also speaker Ido Hadari in the Ministry of Health holds the dangers of an inoculation for small: One of the four victims was a child, who seized into the fresh inoculation wound of its father.
To: eabinga
Getting tips in the "DDR" on how to run his camapign?
Wow.
longjack
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posted on
02/17/2003 4:14:23 PM PST
by
longjack
To: knak
Let me take a peek at the WSJ
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posted on
02/17/2003 4:22:56 PM PST
by
The Raven
(Liberalism: The dream world called denial)
To: The Raven
Gerhard is gonna need a new Helmudt.
49
posted on
02/17/2003 4:25:07 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: Myrddin
look at yesterday posts, article(s) already translated. German hypocrosy.
Don't like germans? make an exeption for this guy.
Germany says it exaggerated smallpox risk.
To: knak
>>There's an article that just came out called "Schroder is hiding the truth" in the WSJ. I don't have subscription.
Nope nothing in the Journal....where'd you get the lead?
I did find this however
"All together, we Germans, who were able to rebuild after two world wars and to find peace and self-confidence with the help and solidarity of our American friends and partners, now have an opportunity to pay them back. That means, and I say this unmistakably, participation in military operations for the defense of freedom and human rights, expressly for the establishment of stability and security."
Schroder--- right after September 11.
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posted on
02/17/2003 4:32:39 PM PST
by
The Raven
(Liberalism: The dream world called denial)
To: eabinga
how come stuff like this is never found in the mainstream media in the United States?
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posted on
02/17/2003 4:34:37 PM PST
by
swaimh
To: The Raven
Schröder is more like the devil than I ever imagined.
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posted on
02/17/2003 4:39:54 PM PST
by
Siobhan
(† Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet †)
To: The Raven
Deutschland, Deutschland ueber Alles ......
especially the Jews and Amerikans...ho ho ho....
To: swaimh
how come stuff like this is never found in the mainstream media in the United States?
Substitute Bush's name in there and it will get front page.
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posted on
02/17/2003 4:44:22 PM PST
by
The Raven
(Liberalism: The dream world called denial)
To: The Raven
What the hell do you all expect????
Joshka Fisher, the Germany Forein minister
was the partner and bosom buddy of Carlos the Jackal ! ! !
It is criminal to even have diplomatic relations with
these serial killers.
http://www.tnr.com/082701/berman082701_print.html
To: The Raven
Schroeder really talked himself into a corner. He gambled during the elections, rallying the support of the anti-war sentiment within Germany, hoping the crisis won't escalate. Now, he's screwed. The situation has escalated. He got reelected on this platform and is on shaky ground at best (possible election fraud since he promised the Germans EVERYTHING they wanted to hear). Now he is confronted with a crisis in the Gulf where he said Germany would NOT contribute nor support. Yet Germany has UN and NATO commitments which even (supercede him) he cannot just blow off. Every move he makes will tighten the noose he himself created. Germany as a whole, put itself in a loose-loose situation through his mouth. If the US attacks oil prices will soar. Germany is to a MUCH greater extent dependant on OPEC oil. This will suppress their already lagging economy even more. Futhermore, an attack and removal of the current regime will also put all national agreements with Saddam on the table. Countries as Germany, who even brag about the fact that they have almost exclusive rights to Iraqs economy currently (since they refuse to participate in a coalition and are rewarded with economic access by Saddam) will not benefit after the military intervention. It will not be German companies receiving the contracts for drilling etc. He made this into an issue to get reelected, and it may just become one of his largest nightmares, even though there is a large PR campaign currently underway, to create the image of the "Solid guy who stood up against the big imperialistic, capitalistic, war mongering US and kept peace on earth (the typical BS)". The Iraq crisis, which diverts attention from an economy with 11.25% unemployed (5.8% US), .2% economic growth (2% US, 10 times more), 4% increase in national debt (in one year, US 2%) will back fire in the long run since he has opted for a short term personal over a long term national gain. Besides weakening the UN and NATO, who they were quick to use against Serbia, in a PREEMTIVE strike (Germany was not threatened), when 250,000 refugees knocked on their (Germanys) door. Besides potentially loosing the large-scale defense contracts (The US will NOT make itself codependent on a unreliable source). Besides loosing potential contracts after Saddam is gone. Besides having 125,000 soldiers, DOD civilians and others (Not low income) leave their economy and relocate in a more receptive economy to the east (they loose rent, restaurant, disco, car, construction, etc sales). What did he do? I would not get to worried. He is loosing political ground rapidly, since the people are realizing that he and is party and coalition partner (the Greens) flat out lied. Germany is and will continue to support since they really dont have an option. Where do you think the stuff going to Iraq is going through? Will Germany supply Patriots to Israel? Yes. Will Germany supply Patriots to Turkey? Yes. Will Germany vote against (UN/NATO) the US/GB and not contribute to a ground war? Yes. Will Germany be a BIG BIG economic looser after the deed is done? Yes. But you see, this has to happen at this point. He cannot come out and reverse his position anymore. He locked himself into a course of action before consulting his allies, before he had the facts. Now he will pay, since every time he sends Patriots anywhere, every plane that flies through there, makes him look a little more like the Bull Shit artist he really is. He must do what he is doing to stay in power. Dont see this as anti-American, although there is much of that in Germany. Rather see it as a last straw of credibility, a diversion from other issues for his own political gain necessitated out of the fact that his economy is failing, his energy policies are failing, the recycling programs are failing (the most ambitious in the world but not financially viable), not even the Kyoto protocol (for which they bash us for not signing) are they themselves upholding, increases in taxes, decreases in social services. All this during is tenure, yet he got reelected. He has remarkable similarities to someone we just got over.
Red6
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posted on
02/17/2003 5:10:02 PM PST
by
Red6
(this is a test)
To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Schroeder was one of Clinton's closest "Third Way" (i.e. global government) allies. And he lies and covers up? I'm shocked.
To: eabinga
Iraq may have isolated a form of smallpox that affects camels. Oh NO, not Camel Pox, anything but that. Maybe Clinton had the right idea using those expensive cruise missles to shoot camels in the a$$. :)
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posted on
02/17/2003 5:14:57 PM PST
by
El Gato
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Good deal. It's time to bust Germany HARD. Agreed. Although, it's not difficult to grasp that Germany would not have a problem with mass murder and/or genocide. Seems to run in the blood. Like cowardice runs in the French genome.
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