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Liberal Radio Is Planned by Rich Group of Democrats
The New York Times ^ | 02/17/03 | JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 02/17/2003 6:53:01 AM PST by nypokerface

A group of wealthy Democratic donors is planning to start a liberal radio network to counterbalance the conservative tenor of radio programs like "The Rush Limbaugh Show."

The group, led by Sheldon and Anita Drobny, venture capitalists from Chicago who have been major campaign donors for Bill Clinton and Al Gore, is in talks with Al Franken, the comedian and author of "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot." It hopes to enlist other well-known entertainers with a liberal point of view for a 14-hour, daily slate of commercial programs that would heavily rely on comedy and political satire.

The plan faces several business and content challenges, from finding a network of radio stations to buy the program to overcoming the poor track record of liberal radio shows. But it is the most ambitious undertaking yet to come from liberal Democrats who believe they are overshadowed in the political propaganda wars by conservative radio and television personalities.

The concern has been around for years: Hillary Rodham Clinton first mentioned a "vast, right-wing conspiracy" in 1998. But the sentiment has taken on new urgency with the rise to the top of the cable news ratings of the Fox News Channel, considered by many to have a conservative slant, and the Republicans' gaining control of the Senate in November. Such events have spurred many wealthy Democrats to explore investments in possible, liberal-skewing media ventures. New campaign finance rules that restrict giving opportunities also gave them further incentive.

The new liberal radio network is initially being financed by the Paradigm Group, of which the Drobnys are the principal partners. Ms. Drobny is the chairwoman of the venture, which is being called AnShell Media L.L.C. Jon Sinton, a longtime, Atlanta-based radio executive, will be its chief executive. He helped start the nationally syndicated radio program of Jim Hightower, the former Texas agriculture commissioner. Liberals had hoped that would be their answer to Mr. Limbaugh, but it was canceled shortly after its start in the mid-1990's.

The failure of Mr. Hightower's show supported the notion of many in radio that liberal hosts do not have what it takes to become successful and entertaining hosts: the fire-and-brimstone manner and a ready-made audience alienated by the mainstream news media it perceives to be full of liberal bias.

Mr. Sinton said the new venture would seek to disprove not only those who doubt liberal hosts can make it in radio, but also those who believe that success in radio depends on an alliance with one of the handful of major distributors or station groups.

The group said it was prepared to go it alone, selling its programming to the individual radio stations rather than go through a middleman. It has an initial investment of $10 million, which radio analysts said was enough to start up. Ms. Drobny said the cash would be placed in a fund that she hopes to grow to at least $200 million within the next year, which she hopes to use to finance other media ventures like the acquisition of radio stations and television production.

"The object of the programming is to be progressive and make a statement that counters this din from the right," Mr. Sinton said. "But we have a solid business plan that shows a hole in the market."

Many conservatives who assert the news media in general is infused with liberal bias say the premise of a liberal radio network is silly to begin with. But liberal Democrats say even if a liberal bias does exist, the mainstream news media strives for balance and fair play. They say their concern is that there are far fewer successful, outright partisan voices on the left than there are on the right.

"I feel like there's a monologue out there," Ms. Drobny said. "I just had this tremendous feeling with great passion that we had to make sure we're heard and make sure having a dialogue in this country of ours."

The list of successful conservative radio hosts is, in fact, fairly long Rush Limbaugh; Sean Hannity; Michael Savage; Michael Reagan. And there is no equivalent list of liberals. Past attempts, such as the programs of Mr. Hightower and Mario Cuomo, have failed.

Some radio executives said they simply did not believe liberal radio could become good business. Among them was Kraig T. Kitchen, chief executive of Premiere Radio Networks, one of the nation's largest radio syndication arms with the programs of Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Reagan and Dr. Laura Schlessinger, among others. Though Mr. Kitchin said he was a conservative, he also said he would have pursued liberal programs had he thought there was money in them. He ascribes to the popular view in the industry that liberal hosts present issues in too much complexity to be very entertaining — while addressing a diffuse audience that has varying views.

"Individuals who are liberal in their viewpoints can be all-encompassing," he said. "It's very hard to define liberalism, unlike how easy it is to define conservatism. So, as a result, it doesn't evoke the same kind of passion as conservative ideologies do."

Mr. Sinton said he thought past attempts failed because they were not properly executed. He said he believed a big problem for Mr. Hightower was that his program was sandwiched into a schedule crammed with conservatives. "It is very hard to succeed when you throw liberal programming between bookends of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity," he said. "That violates expectations of the listener."

This is why he said he was proposing a full slate of liberally skewing programming with morning, afternoon and early evening shows featuring hosts with as many big names in entertainment as possible.

"This side has failed by going at Rush, and trying to be Rush — you're not going to beat him at his game," Mr. Sinton said. "What really makes this work is tapping into Hollywood and New York and having a huge entertainment component, where political sarcasm is every bit as effective as Rush Limbaugh is at bashing you over the head."

Mr. Sinton acknowledged that his biggest challenge was in getting national distribution for the network. He said he would seek to strike deals with underperforming radio stations in major markets.

Analysts said that while the plan might seem difficult to achieve, it is not impossible. "It is going to be trickier in the top-10 markets, easier in the middle markets, but it will be possible," said Jonathan Jacoby, a radio industry analyst for SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. "There is a case that if they have the right product, they will be able to find distribution."

Talent, of course, will be key, Mr. Sinton acknowledged. A deal with Mr. Franken, the comedian, would help greatly in luring other big names, as well as in gaining distribution. He said he envisioned a daily program featuring Mr. Franken perhaps in the early afternoons (around the same time as "The Rush Limbaugh Show").

A representative for Mr. Franken, Henry Reisch of the William Morris Agency, said Mr. Franken was seriously considering the offer, and was mostly focusing on whether he could handle the commitment of a daily radio program. Judging from his comments as a guest last month on Phil Donahue's program on MSNBC, Mr. Franken would probably take a far different approach from that of Mr. Limbaugh. "I think the audience isn't there for a liberal Rush," he said. "Because I think liberals don't want to hear that kind of demagoguery."


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To: pyx
Fraken=Franken
81 posted on 02/17/2003 7:51:17 AM PST by pyx
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To: nypokerface
The group said it was prepared to go it alone, selling its programming to the individual radio stations rather than go through a middleman.

They're doomed to short-life because of this. Local pressure on programming managers at local stations will get these things booted in favor of common-denominator conservative shows. Drive-time radio is conservative, BECAUSE the people in "Drive-Time" are DRIVING TO AND FROM A JOB!!!!!!!!!

82 posted on 02/17/2003 7:51:37 AM PST by sam_paine
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To: nypokerface
He helped start the nationally syndicated radio program of Jim Hightower, the former Texas agriculture commissioner. Liberals had hoped that would be their answer to Mr. Limbaugh, but it was canceled shortly after its start in the mid-1990's.

The failure of Mr. Hightower's show supported the notion of many in radio that liberal hosts do not have what it takes to become successful and entertaining hosts. . . .

Jim Hightower is going to be pissed.

About a month ago the Washington Times mentioned that he was no longer on the air and a day or two later they published a letter to the editor from him, in which he claimed that his program is alive and well and is broadcast on over 100 stations.

Paraphrasing the old "if a tree falls in the forest", if nobody listens, is Hightower still broadcasting?

Look for another (in a long list of corrections) to be published in the NY Times and look also for a letter from Hightower.

83 posted on 02/17/2003 7:52:52 AM PST by jackbill
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To: pyx
Frickin=Franken
84 posted on 02/17/2003 7:53:13 AM PST by blackdog (Fresh American Lamb.....Buy Some Today)
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To: IncPen
wrongheaded bump...
85 posted on 02/17/2003 7:54:01 AM PST by BartMan1
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To: The Great RJ
I think Al's show might actually last a year or so. Most college-age liberals would find entertainment out of Al, and that segment might survive. But the rest of these guys will have a lot of trouble. And I think there will be almost no listeners in the south. The bulk of their listeners will be California and New York.
86 posted on 02/17/2003 7:54:28 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: nypokerface
NOW FELLOW FREEPERS!

DO NOT CALL THE SHOW

YOU WON'T CHANGE MINDS

THEY ONLY GET RATING AND YOU FEED THEIR EGOS

IGNORE THE SHOWS AND THEY WILL JUST BE WASTING MONEY

87 posted on 02/17/2003 7:55:02 AM PST by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always Flexable)
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To: nypokerface
Mr. Sinton said he thought past attempts failed because they were not properly executed.

That's the same mentality they use for the failure of communism.

88 posted on 02/17/2003 7:55:09 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: Spook86
"Of course, the liberals don't understand this. They believe they can plunk anyone down in front of a microphone and produce a hit show." That's because the looney left thinks everything can be solved by throwing money at it. They've proved that a thousand times with their ideologies. For a group that constantly trys to berate conservatives as the "rich", they sure throw a lot of good money after bad. Of course, we all know that the most popular liberal trick and to accuse others of what they are doing. Liberal talk show? No, it will never work. Radio is too personal. Radio is something each and every individual can listen too when and where they please, without fear of reprisal or ridicule, or judgement. The liberals don't get it...they think this kind of radio of a perfect vehicle for indoctrination, and it is not. Rush is famous for vocalizing what the rest of us already think. We're not his "robots", like the left says. Look at it this way, you would listen to a show about say..fixing cars, when you have an interest or need to fix a car. But if that show told you that putting air in the tires would tune up the engine, you'd blow him off immediately, cause he's full of crap. Same thing, when that lib host starts his daily "clinton-izing" on the air, the deafening click of off switches will resound across the nation...not to mention what will happen when the "Freepers get the names and email addresses of their sponsors. ;)
89 posted on 02/17/2003 7:55:37 AM PST by FrankR
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The more $$$ and time they spend on this goofy idea, the better. That is $$$ and time wasted that can't be allocated toward something that might have worked.
90 posted on 02/17/2003 7:55:39 AM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: nypokerface
It's very hard to define liberalism

It is hard to define liberalism but it is fairly simple to define liberals.

The ability to process reality is the attribute that separates conservatives from liberals. Processing reality requires that a time line be maintained and that possible unintended consequences be considered. Liberals are unable to openly do this. I say openly because I believe there must exist some who can process reality but whose agenda benefits from keeping their ability to process reality secret from the liberal sheep.

Liberalism is then explained by the theory that a liberal is a person who lacks the gene required to process reality.

This theory does not extent to those whose agenda derives power from the constant shearing of the liberal sheep. The liberal sheep are easily led because the real agendas’ are easily hidden from those who cannot process reality.

Examples supporting this theory are abundant.

Would a person who can process reality support the notion of subsidizing, taxing, regulating, and then suing a product manufacturer?

Would a person who can process reality support the notion that adding more money to education will improve its quality but adding educational choice will not?

Would a person who can process reality support the notion that some people CANNOT be trusted and at the same time believe that they can write laws those same people will abide by because they CAN be trusted?

Would a person who can process reality agree to divert tax-payer funds from welfare recipients to spent on lawyers hired to sue gun manufacturers?

A liberal talk show would be of immense value to the nation. I applaud the efforts underway to bring this urgently needed expression to the American airways, as I am most anxious to see if the results confirm my theory.

I believe it is human nature to want something for nothing but it is the liberal who expects something for nothing.

91 posted on 02/17/2003 7:58:03 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: laotzu
Unfortunately you are correct. That's why i left the GOP and went to the Constitution Party. I just could not stomach being lied to any more about how the elephants were the party of "conservatism." They are the party of Neo-cons.
92 posted on 02/17/2003 7:59:15 AM PST by sauropod (It's OK to drive an SUV if it helps you get babes.....)
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To: nypokerface

Talent, of course, will be key, Mr. Sinton acknowledged.
 

Well, they're screwed from the get-go.

 

93 posted on 02/17/2003 7:59:24 AM PST by Fintan
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To: nypokerface
Shush!!!! About that title: Don't tell the "sheeple" that there is such a thing as a "rich" democrap. You know only Republicans are rich and benefit from tax refunds and tax cuts and successful big businesses.
94 posted on 02/17/2003 7:59:54 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: KC_Conspirator
You've got it, KC. Libs expect to buy this platform, and their audience, but they have to earn it via competition....a concept foreign to them.

Please let it happen.

95 posted on 02/17/2003 8:00:02 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: The Great RJ
Save to read later
96 posted on 02/17/2003 8:00:13 AM PST by dix
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To: Alouette
(Liberals have hearts?)

Oops. Sorry. I assumed since they are such blood-suckers that there must be a heart in there somewhere ...
97 posted on 02/17/2003 8:00:17 AM PST by eat it, gore
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To: nypokerface
Liberal "opinions" and perceptions of reality cannot stand up under uncontrolled scrutiny. Any liberal radio talk show must screen their calls. Conservative talk shows welcome liberal callers with their challenges, it makes the show. Another factor is a liberal radio talk show must succeed in a capitalistic manner. Unlike their govt. contolled ventures, when liberal radio fails, it cannot be declared this failure was due to lack of funding. Liberal NPR does not need sponsors, this venture will, it'll never work! What sponsor will allign themselves with the socialist? The sponsors are capitalist, and rightly so, that what has and does make America great. They did not name Neal Boortz! I know, a libertarian, but also a great success. I have not read any replies yet, thought I'd express my thoughts first, sorry if I repeated some of what others have said.
98 posted on 02/17/2003 8:01:18 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Geist Krieger
Advice to liberals: If at first (or the zillionth time) you don't succeed try, try, try, try, try and try again.

Actually, that's JUST what liberals do. Since they are always RIGHT and GOOD, they assume only time, money and persuasion are necessary to make liberalism "work." So they will attempt to fund FAILED programs and perpetuate BAD ideas ad infinitum.

Only this time, they would have to use their OWN money. Bahahaha!

99 posted on 02/17/2003 8:02:34 AM PST by pollwatcher
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To: chiller
Conservatives are the ones with new ideas. There's been a juxtaposition such that many who were once thinking liberals are still thinking and have determined that what is considered "conservative" today, isn't stuck in the past, or old., but actually quite liberal. As I used to know it, anyway. Does that make any sense to you?

If I can jump in.....you make perfect sense. Traditional roles have 'flipped' - now conservatives are the ones that are looking for new ways to do things.

I think that this stems from two things. First, the liberals that were once considered 'on the fringe' are now in power and want to keep it that way. Second, the programs that liberals have put in place are beginning to fail and it will be left to conservatives to clean up their mess as usual.

100 posted on 02/17/2003 8:02:51 AM PST by wbill
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