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Liberal Radio Is Planned by Rich Group of Democrats
The New York Times ^ | 02/17/03 | JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 02/17/2003 6:53:01 AM PST by nypokerface

A group of wealthy Democratic donors is planning to start a liberal radio network to counterbalance the conservative tenor of radio programs like "The Rush Limbaugh Show."

The group, led by Sheldon and Anita Drobny, venture capitalists from Chicago who have been major campaign donors for Bill Clinton and Al Gore, is in talks with Al Franken, the comedian and author of "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot." It hopes to enlist other well-known entertainers with a liberal point of view for a 14-hour, daily slate of commercial programs that would heavily rely on comedy and political satire.

The plan faces several business and content challenges, from finding a network of radio stations to buy the program to overcoming the poor track record of liberal radio shows. But it is the most ambitious undertaking yet to come from liberal Democrats who believe they are overshadowed in the political propaganda wars by conservative radio and television personalities.

The concern has been around for years: Hillary Rodham Clinton first mentioned a "vast, right-wing conspiracy" in 1998. But the sentiment has taken on new urgency with the rise to the top of the cable news ratings of the Fox News Channel, considered by many to have a conservative slant, and the Republicans' gaining control of the Senate in November. Such events have spurred many wealthy Democrats to explore investments in possible, liberal-skewing media ventures. New campaign finance rules that restrict giving opportunities also gave them further incentive.

The new liberal radio network is initially being financed by the Paradigm Group, of which the Drobnys are the principal partners. Ms. Drobny is the chairwoman of the venture, which is being called AnShell Media L.L.C. Jon Sinton, a longtime, Atlanta-based radio executive, will be its chief executive. He helped start the nationally syndicated radio program of Jim Hightower, the former Texas agriculture commissioner. Liberals had hoped that would be their answer to Mr. Limbaugh, but it was canceled shortly after its start in the mid-1990's.

The failure of Mr. Hightower's show supported the notion of many in radio that liberal hosts do not have what it takes to become successful and entertaining hosts: the fire-and-brimstone manner and a ready-made audience alienated by the mainstream news media it perceives to be full of liberal bias.

Mr. Sinton said the new venture would seek to disprove not only those who doubt liberal hosts can make it in radio, but also those who believe that success in radio depends on an alliance with one of the handful of major distributors or station groups.

The group said it was prepared to go it alone, selling its programming to the individual radio stations rather than go through a middleman. It has an initial investment of $10 million, which radio analysts said was enough to start up. Ms. Drobny said the cash would be placed in a fund that she hopes to grow to at least $200 million within the next year, which she hopes to use to finance other media ventures like the acquisition of radio stations and television production.

"The object of the programming is to be progressive and make a statement that counters this din from the right," Mr. Sinton said. "But we have a solid business plan that shows a hole in the market."

Many conservatives who assert the news media in general is infused with liberal bias say the premise of a liberal radio network is silly to begin with. But liberal Democrats say even if a liberal bias does exist, the mainstream news media strives for balance and fair play. They say their concern is that there are far fewer successful, outright partisan voices on the left than there are on the right.

"I feel like there's a monologue out there," Ms. Drobny said. "I just had this tremendous feeling with great passion that we had to make sure we're heard and make sure having a dialogue in this country of ours."

The list of successful conservative radio hosts is, in fact, fairly long Rush Limbaugh; Sean Hannity; Michael Savage; Michael Reagan. And there is no equivalent list of liberals. Past attempts, such as the programs of Mr. Hightower and Mario Cuomo, have failed.

Some radio executives said they simply did not believe liberal radio could become good business. Among them was Kraig T. Kitchen, chief executive of Premiere Radio Networks, one of the nation's largest radio syndication arms with the programs of Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Reagan and Dr. Laura Schlessinger, among others. Though Mr. Kitchin said he was a conservative, he also said he would have pursued liberal programs had he thought there was money in them. He ascribes to the popular view in the industry that liberal hosts present issues in too much complexity to be very entertaining — while addressing a diffuse audience that has varying views.

"Individuals who are liberal in their viewpoints can be all-encompassing," he said. "It's very hard to define liberalism, unlike how easy it is to define conservatism. So, as a result, it doesn't evoke the same kind of passion as conservative ideologies do."

Mr. Sinton said he thought past attempts failed because they were not properly executed. He said he believed a big problem for Mr. Hightower was that his program was sandwiched into a schedule crammed with conservatives. "It is very hard to succeed when you throw liberal programming between bookends of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity," he said. "That violates expectations of the listener."

This is why he said he was proposing a full slate of liberally skewing programming with morning, afternoon and early evening shows featuring hosts with as many big names in entertainment as possible.

"This side has failed by going at Rush, and trying to be Rush — you're not going to beat him at his game," Mr. Sinton said. "What really makes this work is tapping into Hollywood and New York and having a huge entertainment component, where political sarcasm is every bit as effective as Rush Limbaugh is at bashing you over the head."

Mr. Sinton acknowledged that his biggest challenge was in getting national distribution for the network. He said he would seek to strike deals with underperforming radio stations in major markets.

Analysts said that while the plan might seem difficult to achieve, it is not impossible. "It is going to be trickier in the top-10 markets, easier in the middle markets, but it will be possible," said Jonathan Jacoby, a radio industry analyst for SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. "There is a case that if they have the right product, they will be able to find distribution."

Talent, of course, will be key, Mr. Sinton acknowledged. A deal with Mr. Franken, the comedian, would help greatly in luring other big names, as well as in gaining distribution. He said he envisioned a daily program featuring Mr. Franken perhaps in the early afternoons (around the same time as "The Rush Limbaugh Show").

A representative for Mr. Franken, Henry Reisch of the William Morris Agency, said Mr. Franken was seriously considering the offer, and was mostly focusing on whether he could handle the commitment of a daily radio program. Judging from his comments as a guest last month on Phil Donahue's program on MSNBC, Mr. Franken would probably take a far different approach from that of Mr. Limbaugh. "I think the audience isn't there for a liberal Rush," he said. "Because I think liberals don't want to hear that kind of demagoguery."


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To: Temple Owl
"You mean like Arlen Specter? "

I don't know. What about him?

201 posted on 02/17/2003 1:46:03 PM PST by c0rbin
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To: nypokerface
THEY ALREADY HAVE NPR, CSPAN & CSPAN2; VIRTUALLY ALL the newspapers; all TV but Fox and part of that; plenty of magazines.

What more do they want?

Oh, I forgot [not really].

They want 110% CONTROL

1,000% TYRANNY.

They want it all.

And then to play terminator like a parlor game.

What scum.

What slugs**t

202 posted on 02/17/2003 1:53:07 PM PST by Quix (FREEPCARDS additions will be delayed until after birthday and Albuquerque trip)
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To: nypokerface
They just hd Sinton on the NPR channel that is piped inot my office. (disclaimer: at first I protested about having to listen to the tripe, but, it is so amusing that I now like the comic relief)...

He is SOOOO convinced that the American public is STARVED for the liberal point of view.. and that Al Franken will attract listeners away from Limbaugh and Savage because he will represent their underrrepresented viewpoint....He tried to explain away the Hightower failure as simply "programming" failures of the local stations and that the NEW paradigm will require that they have "control" over the local programming to insure that Al Franken (I can barely say that name without puking) has the optimal opportunity to "woo" (his words) disaffeted consertaives to the correct way of thinking....

Semper Puke

203 posted on 02/17/2003 1:59:00 PM PST by Trident/Delta
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
huh?Was your post directed at someone else?
204 posted on 02/17/2003 2:12:03 PM PST by quack
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Coming from the guy who called Rush "a big fat idiot."

I wonder what Frankin will say when he gets his butt kicked in the ratings by that "big, fat idiot"?

205 posted on 02/17/2003 2:21:25 PM PST by Smedley
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To: Grampa Dave
Most liberals today are so dysfunctional, they can't read nor can they listen to any discussions on the radio.

I think that you touched on the problem. Not enough pictures on AM radio to keep the attention of liberal listeners.

206 posted on 02/17/2003 2:23:44 PM PST by Smedley
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To: nypokerface
Just when I think life doesn't get any sweeter than it already is . . . the libbers do something even more stupid than their prior stunts. They just don't get it. The truth can't be distorted on radio.

No one's looking at Julia Roberts' shiny teeth, high cheekbones, and push-up bra-improved ti...breas...bosoms when she lies on the radio. So her filth is filtered properly and nary a word ends up in the truth bin. The "Sky is falling" just doesn't play well on radio.

207 posted on 02/17/2003 2:40:52 PM PST by geedee
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To: nypokerface
After hearing about this all day, I think that the new station should make Clinton its lead emcee. After all, he is totally dysfunctional when it comes to shutting up. Let him speak, all day all night, until maybe even he gets sick of hearing his own voice. Any dj would only be quoting him or using his talking points anyway. Besides, it's all about Bill--his agenda, his legacy, his popularity (and sex life), keeping him in power (via Hillary), etc.--so be outright about it.

This station should be "All Bill, All the Time"!

208 posted on 02/17/2003 2:53:57 PM PST by MHT
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To: nypokerface
The only thing they're going to compete against with this crap is their own 24-hour leftist drivel found on NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc. Limbaugh and all the rest won't lose a single listener.
209 posted on 02/17/2003 2:55:55 PM PST by Spiff
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To: Smedley
I wonder what Frankin will say when he gets his butt kicked in the ratings by that "big, fat idiot"?

I wonder if they will even care about ratings. Maybe it will be like Michael Moore. No one pays to see his movies outside a few college students, aging hippies and film critics, but he keeps getting paid to make 'em because--oo--he's so scary "controversial."

210 posted on 02/17/2003 3:22:01 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ithaca is the City of Evil)
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To: c0rbin
Arlen Specter is a Republican left-wing liberal. He is an embarrassment to Pennsylvania.
211 posted on 02/17/2003 3:35:49 PM PST by Temple Owl
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To: nypokerface
From Scrappleface.com-

Leaked Memo Reveals Liberal Radio Network Plan

(2003-02-17) -- Nationwide, no liberal talk-radio show has ever succeeded, while numerous conservative hosts have built large audiences. Now, a group of wealthy Democrat donors has put $10 million behind a plan to start a liberal radio network built on a radical concept.

According to a leaked internal memo from Chicago venture capitalists Sheldon and Anita Drobny, their plan to break the liberal radio curse is as follows:

1. Get marginally-famous people to host -- comedians, "B-list" actors, defeated liberal politicians.
2. Get some "ideas" of our own. (Finance opinion polls to develop these.)
3. Find ways of describing our ideas that are not repugnant to freedom-loving people.
4. Try to sound more American. Play Star-Spangled Banner at start of show, or something.
5. If the above plan fails, make fun of how George Bush looks and talks.

212 posted on 02/17/2003 3:43:46 PM PST by socal_parrot
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To: WillVoteForFood
"Phlegmocrats in Congress will attempt to springboard this failure into new legislation to put limitations on radio shows like Limbaugh's, in order to get "fairness" back in the media"

This is the one that scares me, because they have proven time and time again that they have no problem at all trampling the Constitution when it suits their purposes.

213 posted on 02/17/2003 4:38:39 PM PST by sweetliberty (Go Al, go!)
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To: nypokerface
Hey...what a great idea. They can get people like Mario Cuomo to host a....oh wait a minute...never mind...
214 posted on 02/17/2003 4:42:08 PM PST by Constitutional Patriot (The left will always fail in a competitive marketplace of ideas...especially talk radio.)
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To: Budge
"Someone please explain to me how Geraldo, Gretta, Colmes and others on FOX are "conservative."

Details; details.

Yes, I have access, but only tonight. They decided we needed to stay somewhere else tomorrow night, even though it is farthur away from where we are working on Wednesday. Go figure. All hell has broken loose. I'll tell you about it later.

215 posted on 02/17/2003 4:43:52 PM PST by sweetliberty (Go Al, go!)
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To: c0rbin
"In the above sentence do you mean Conservative to be synonymous with Republican? IE - "Republicans [in the year 2003] do not want to maintain a status quo..." ??"

In the case described, yes.

Conservatives (and Republicans) favor reducing taxes further (if not changing the tax structure altogether), reducing regulatory obstacles, further increasing economic freedom and individual liberty.

Do you think otherwise?

216 posted on 02/17/2003 5:40:42 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Smedley
I wonder what Frankin will say when he gets his butt kicked in the ratings by that "big, fat idiot"?

He's already had his butt kicked in *life* by that "big fat idiot". Franken is relatively successful, but compared to Rush, Al is collecting welfare.

217 posted on 02/17/2003 5:44:33 PM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dont Mention the War
Like the Liberals are going to have a chance against the likes of Rush. He and others will be all over them like flies on poop.
218 posted on 02/17/2003 5:47:22 PM PST by Kev-Head
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To: Tymesup; Cacique
Richard Bey was OK but he's sliding downhill fast.

Dick Bey's 10AM Saturday show has got to be the most annoying show on WABC, even more so than the Saturday night chronic pain infomercials and the "1-800-ASK-LESKO" ads. His innocuous comments are made worse by the fact that Bey actually "sings" his own theme songs based on a variety of show tunes.

As for Hannity, I never understood why so many people like this guy. He beats a dead horse into the ground with most of his "arguments" and is a lousy interviewer.

I hate to say this, but the only political talk show host I really like is Rush, unless he goes off on a Tiger Woods tangent. Michael Savage comes across as an angrier, conservative version of Randy Rhodes (arrogant leftist radio host from South Florida) and Bob Grant has slipped since he moved to Worst On Radio (WOR).

219 posted on 02/17/2003 7:48:51 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Smedley
Actually they need simple cartoons to be able to follow simple concepts on the radio.

Between massive abortion, the NEA dumbing down the left wingers for decades in school and the glamorization of the drug lifestyles, the typical left wing voters are truly dysfunctional and mentally handicapped.

Remember how Gephardless used to talk to his voters and rat voters. He sounded like a first grade teacher. He was trained to talk down to them, so that they could grasp at what he was saying.
220 posted on 02/17/2003 9:54:39 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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