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Liberal Radio Is Planned by Rich Group of Democrats
The New York Times ^ | 02/17/03 | JIM RUTENBERG

Posted on 02/17/2003 6:53:01 AM PST by nypokerface

A group of wealthy Democratic donors is planning to start a liberal radio network to counterbalance the conservative tenor of radio programs like "The Rush Limbaugh Show."

The group, led by Sheldon and Anita Drobny, venture capitalists from Chicago who have been major campaign donors for Bill Clinton and Al Gore, is in talks with Al Franken, the comedian and author of "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot." It hopes to enlist other well-known entertainers with a liberal point of view for a 14-hour, daily slate of commercial programs that would heavily rely on comedy and political satire.

The plan faces several business and content challenges, from finding a network of radio stations to buy the program to overcoming the poor track record of liberal radio shows. But it is the most ambitious undertaking yet to come from liberal Democrats who believe they are overshadowed in the political propaganda wars by conservative radio and television personalities.

The concern has been around for years: Hillary Rodham Clinton first mentioned a "vast, right-wing conspiracy" in 1998. But the sentiment has taken on new urgency with the rise to the top of the cable news ratings of the Fox News Channel, considered by many to have a conservative slant, and the Republicans' gaining control of the Senate in November. Such events have spurred many wealthy Democrats to explore investments in possible, liberal-skewing media ventures. New campaign finance rules that restrict giving opportunities also gave them further incentive.

The new liberal radio network is initially being financed by the Paradigm Group, of which the Drobnys are the principal partners. Ms. Drobny is the chairwoman of the venture, which is being called AnShell Media L.L.C. Jon Sinton, a longtime, Atlanta-based radio executive, will be its chief executive. He helped start the nationally syndicated radio program of Jim Hightower, the former Texas agriculture commissioner. Liberals had hoped that would be their answer to Mr. Limbaugh, but it was canceled shortly after its start in the mid-1990's.

The failure of Mr. Hightower's show supported the notion of many in radio that liberal hosts do not have what it takes to become successful and entertaining hosts: the fire-and-brimstone manner and a ready-made audience alienated by the mainstream news media it perceives to be full of liberal bias.

Mr. Sinton said the new venture would seek to disprove not only those who doubt liberal hosts can make it in radio, but also those who believe that success in radio depends on an alliance with one of the handful of major distributors or station groups.

The group said it was prepared to go it alone, selling its programming to the individual radio stations rather than go through a middleman. It has an initial investment of $10 million, which radio analysts said was enough to start up. Ms. Drobny said the cash would be placed in a fund that she hopes to grow to at least $200 million within the next year, which she hopes to use to finance other media ventures like the acquisition of radio stations and television production.

"The object of the programming is to be progressive and make a statement that counters this din from the right," Mr. Sinton said. "But we have a solid business plan that shows a hole in the market."

Many conservatives who assert the news media in general is infused with liberal bias say the premise of a liberal radio network is silly to begin with. But liberal Democrats say even if a liberal bias does exist, the mainstream news media strives for balance and fair play. They say their concern is that there are far fewer successful, outright partisan voices on the left than there are on the right.

"I feel like there's a monologue out there," Ms. Drobny said. "I just had this tremendous feeling with great passion that we had to make sure we're heard and make sure having a dialogue in this country of ours."

The list of successful conservative radio hosts is, in fact, fairly long Rush Limbaugh; Sean Hannity; Michael Savage; Michael Reagan. And there is no equivalent list of liberals. Past attempts, such as the programs of Mr. Hightower and Mario Cuomo, have failed.

Some radio executives said they simply did not believe liberal radio could become good business. Among them was Kraig T. Kitchen, chief executive of Premiere Radio Networks, one of the nation's largest radio syndication arms with the programs of Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Reagan and Dr. Laura Schlessinger, among others. Though Mr. Kitchin said he was a conservative, he also said he would have pursued liberal programs had he thought there was money in them. He ascribes to the popular view in the industry that liberal hosts present issues in too much complexity to be very entertaining — while addressing a diffuse audience that has varying views.

"Individuals who are liberal in their viewpoints can be all-encompassing," he said. "It's very hard to define liberalism, unlike how easy it is to define conservatism. So, as a result, it doesn't evoke the same kind of passion as conservative ideologies do."

Mr. Sinton said he thought past attempts failed because they were not properly executed. He said he believed a big problem for Mr. Hightower was that his program was sandwiched into a schedule crammed with conservatives. "It is very hard to succeed when you throw liberal programming between bookends of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity," he said. "That violates expectations of the listener."

This is why he said he was proposing a full slate of liberally skewing programming with morning, afternoon and early evening shows featuring hosts with as many big names in entertainment as possible.

"This side has failed by going at Rush, and trying to be Rush — you're not going to beat him at his game," Mr. Sinton said. "What really makes this work is tapping into Hollywood and New York and having a huge entertainment component, where political sarcasm is every bit as effective as Rush Limbaugh is at bashing you over the head."

Mr. Sinton acknowledged that his biggest challenge was in getting national distribution for the network. He said he would seek to strike deals with underperforming radio stations in major markets.

Analysts said that while the plan might seem difficult to achieve, it is not impossible. "It is going to be trickier in the top-10 markets, easier in the middle markets, but it will be possible," said Jonathan Jacoby, a radio industry analyst for SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. "There is a case that if they have the right product, they will be able to find distribution."

Talent, of course, will be key, Mr. Sinton acknowledged. A deal with Mr. Franken, the comedian, would help greatly in luring other big names, as well as in gaining distribution. He said he envisioned a daily program featuring Mr. Franken perhaps in the early afternoons (around the same time as "The Rush Limbaugh Show").

A representative for Mr. Franken, Henry Reisch of the William Morris Agency, said Mr. Franken was seriously considering the offer, and was mostly focusing on whether he could handle the commitment of a daily radio program. Judging from his comments as a guest last month on Phil Donahue's program on MSNBC, Mr. Franken would probably take a far different approach from that of Mr. Limbaugh. "I think the audience isn't there for a liberal Rush," he said. "Because I think liberals don't want to hear that kind of demagoguery."


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To: Grampa Dave
"A buzz word"

Another one is "for the children"
121 posted on 02/17/2003 8:19:35 AM PST by poet
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To: nypokerface
Six months, TOPS!

Then they will blame the VRWC and Rush and say that the 'conspiracy' called 'en masse and stole control and hurt us and changed the issues and ...

You get the picture.

The FACT that dems have no articulable position (that they dare posit) and can't rebuke facts has nothing to do with their whining.

122 posted on 02/17/2003 8:21:21 AM PST by lawdude
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To: nypokerface
"I just had this tremendous feeling with great passion that we had to make sure we're heard and make sure having a dialogue in this country of ours."

Too funny. How can we HELP hearing them. Every time you turn on the television they're shrieking at you. And "dialogue" implies communication. Communication requires exchange of ideas. Their idea of dialogue is they tell you what they want you to believe and when you try to challenge them they just yell louder so that you can't be heard. I don't think that talk radio audiences are typically the kind of people who take kindly to being hollered at.

Rush and Ann Coulter nail it perfectly when they say that liberals never counter actual arguments with legitimate rebuttals because their arguments are weak and just can't stand up in the face of truth, so all they have is attack, hence the choice of a venue (parody) where attack is acceptable.

123 posted on 02/17/2003 8:21:21 AM PST by sweetliberty (Go Al, go!)
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To: poet
Thank you, For the Chilrun!"

Our state, Kalifornicator, is bankrupt for that Gray Davis and his tax and spend legislature has done For the Chilrun!"

124 posted on 02/17/2003 8:22:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: pollwatcher
It will not be their own money. The leftist will come up with some way to try and force taxpayers to pay. They may even get NPR to give THEM money in order to seed the start.

Will this talk shows allow people to actually call in and disagree. We have a local show which does NOT allow people to call in and disagree. I can't listen for any length, it coincidentally is the same station that broadcasts sporting events I listen to so I end up catching a few minutes before preemption.

Let them try. The more their ideas see the light of day the more discredited they will be. The republican zones will increase in size.
125 posted on 02/17/2003 8:22:44 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: yoe
It was a very big ratings tactic when AM radio was losing to FM in the 70's. The local station would give away free radios in supermarkets, high school football games, parades, etc.... WIP-610 in Philly gave away a few hundred thousand of them, the tuner permanantly set to 610AM. A very expensive way to grasp for market.
126 posted on 02/17/2003 8:24:52 AM PST by blackdog (Fresh American Lamb.....Buy Some Today)
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To: eat it, gore
I can listen and work at the same time. Many people when the reach their 30's start to turn off the music for a few hours and start listening.
127 posted on 02/17/2003 8:25:28 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"And Mc Cain (I count him as a lib) ditched his handicapped first wife for the daughter of the biggest beer distributor in AZ.

I guess everything is political with these clowns."


Watch out, Newt wasn't 'zactly Mr. Righteous! Sleeze knows no affiliation.

128 posted on 02/17/2003 8:27:29 AM PST by lawdude
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To: nypokerface
Judging from his comments as a guest last month on Phil Donahue's program on MSNBC, Mr. Franken would probably take a far different approach from that of Mr. Limbaugh. "I think the audience isn't there for a liberal Rush," he said. "Because I think liberals don't want to hear that kind of demagoguery."

Talk about a coffee-spewer! That's all liberals KNOW is demagoguery.

129 posted on 02/17/2003 8:27:56 AM PST by Darling Lili
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To: yoe
Constitutional Republic loving DITTOS!!
130 posted on 02/17/2003 8:29:26 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: lawdude
Watch out, Newt wasn't 'zactly Mr. Righteous! Sleeze knows no affiliation.

Right you are, but he was thinkin' with his willie. I see these other folks as looking at the bank balance and rolodex.

131 posted on 02/17/2003 8:31:09 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Duct...and cover....Duct...and cover....)
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To: CaptSkip
It was a TRAINWRECK!! NOT funny, way-stupid, and totally UN-entertaining...unless you like trainwrecks, which in this case, I savored the obvious or "just under the surface" pain and desperation on the faces of AL and George S.

And that, in a nutshell, is why this venture will fail from a commercial standpoint. How many ways can Al Franken say "Bush is stupid" before even the liberals think it's time to move on? And what will he move on to - jokes about Reagan, Alzheimers and Depends?

A liberal's idea of "entertainment" is that which attacks or demeans those who dare to disagree with them. Besides stringing together profanities and bodily function references, that's all they know, and it wears thin very quickly.

132 posted on 02/17/2003 8:33:34 AM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: Tymesup
" Incidentally, while Sean Hannity was excellent, he's been going downhill lately. He's strident, shouting over his callers if they don't agree with him. There are too many commercials and cross promotion."

That constant promotion of his night show annoys me. But what irks me even more is the constant listing of what is coming next. Just get to it,--- for goodness sakes!!!! Get to the reason people tune in -- a chance to speak and a chance to listen to current news.

As soon as Sean starts with his self-stuff, I switch over to O'Reilly.

133 posted on 02/17/2003 8:39:10 AM PST by Exit148
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To: nypokerface
Let it rip---I just love watching liberals lose their "hardly" earned money. The only question will be when they realize they have bought a dead horse!
134 posted on 02/17/2003 8:40:35 AM PST by MHT
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To: Boundless
Rush was a creation of the unbalanced lamestream media. If they were balanced in the first place, Rush et. al. would not have found an audience. After all, libs always blame "evil" people and actions on society in general, not individuals. Anyway, I agree about media finally "coming out" of the biased closet. They should thank conservative media for "liberating" them to be their true selves.
135 posted on 02/17/2003 8:42:22 AM PST by pollwatcher
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To: mewzilla
Isn't Jay Severin the skinny guy Geraldo used to have on his show alot during OJ and the Clinton impeachment? He was a big Clinton supporter, wasn't he?
136 posted on 02/17/2003 8:45:27 AM PST by MHT
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To: MosesKnows
Liberals have preferred opinons and perceptions of reality that they choose to protect and defend from all facts to the contrary. These are the liberals I have personal spoken with. One actually put her hands over her ears and made noises so she could not hear what I was saying. The term "open-minded liberal" is an oxy moron just as much as "jumbo shrimp".
137 posted on 02/17/2003 8:45:28 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
demagoguery.
Liberalism is nothing but demagoguery.

138 posted on 02/17/2003 8:46:21 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: nypokerface
Salon part deux /snicker
139 posted on 02/17/2003 8:46:36 AM PST by Diana Rose (I hate all things french)
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To: Gopher Broke
"....we felt FINALLY someone can articulate the conservative views.."

If the libs hate talk radio, wait until the market eventually forces the creation of a conservative network of private schools and colleges. Everywhere I go, conservatives are complaining about the naked propaganda that passes for public education and college education in america today. Why are we paying to have our kids indoctrinated? The situation is as it was with the media just before talk radio boomed. Middle America turned towards it (and away from the mainstream media) en masse. Similarly, we will turn away from the sewers that are our education estabishment the moment a real alternative arises. Vouchers, or some form of private tuition tax break, will do for education what the demise of the fairness doctrine did for talk radio.

THEN wait to see how the liberals cry. While they believe that they have a right to control the media...they believe that they have a sacred promise from above to control our children's minds.

140 posted on 02/17/2003 8:48:18 AM PST by quebecois
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