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Hunters need to separate themselves from gun nuts
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 2-17-03 | DALE BOWMAN

Posted on 02/17/2003 5:43:46 AM PST by SJackson

"About the time that Daddy left to fight the big war/I saw my first pistol in the general store/In the general store, when I was thirteen/Thought it was the finest thing I ever had seen/So I asked if I could have one someday when I grew up/Mama dropped a dozen eggs, she really blew up/She really blew up and I didn't understand/Mama said the pistol is the Devil's right hand.''

Steve Earle's ''The Devil's Right Hand''

Ihunt. It's the most intense and rewarding thing I do in the outdoors.

To hunt, I own guns.

They are my most valued possessions.

When I was 13, Dad gave me the family .22 rifle as my most cherished Christmas gift. When I turned 18, my 12-gauge shotgun and my deer rifle were my first important life purchases.

The only thing I asked Dad to bequeath me in his will is an ancient, open-bore, single-shot, 12-gauge shotgun my Grandpa Bowman gave him as his first gun as a boy.

Guns come with meanings for me, come with stories and histories.

So I watch with more than passing interest when an anti-gun person such as Mayor Daley steps into the political arena with gun legislation.

The latest foray came Thursday.

My first thought was, "Oh, God, not again.''

Then I picked through the highlights.

As a hunter and human being, I agreed with almost all of them.

As hunters, we must learn to separate ourselves from the gun nuts, those who would oppose every firearm restriction. Otherwise, we'll be lumped in the crackpot pile.

*A ban on military-style, semi-automatic assault weapons. I absolutely agree. It should have been done years ago. The problem for hunters is the definition of assault rifles; otherwise, it in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Restrict handgun purchases to one per person per month. For my money, you could ban handguns completely. That in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Gun fingerprinting. I have no problem with that other than it is another governmental intrusion into our lives. It in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Lengthening the waiting period for taking possession of a handgun from three days to 10. Hey, make it a month, a year, 10 years. It in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Require annual background checks of those who hold Firearm Owners Identification Cards. I think that will be a logistical nightmare and should not be enacted for that reason. Otherwise, check all you want. It in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Increase the cost of a FOID card. It annoys me. It will cost me. But it in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Mandate background checks of people who buy firearms at gun shows. Absolutely. That should have been in place years ago. That in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*State licensing of gun dealers and a state database of gun information. Go ahead. I think it will be a logistical nightmare; otherwise, it in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

*Increased penalty for secret compartments in vehicles for weapons. Throw the book at them. That in no way affects my right to own a shotgun or rifle for hunting.

Daley's proposals make sense. But then, I am a hunter who owns guns, not a gun nut. Guns don't mean more than life to me.

Dale Bowman can be reached at outdoordb@aol.com.

"Bowman's Outdoor Line'' is heard on "Outdoors with Mike Norris'' (3-4 p.m. Thursdays, 1280-AM).


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns
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To: brbethke
The Forrester is the leftist's SUV. If memory serves me, I think it gets the same gas milage as my Explorer.
241 posted on 02/18/2003 11:45:58 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"Rifles are very useful-- just not so useful against the sci-fi weapons that the Pentagon would use on such an anti-government group."

The wording of your posts seem to encourage decent folks here to predict what they would do if the military attacked Americans. Nobody suggested anything close to this happening, except you.

Why?

242 posted on 02/18/2003 4:35:26 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"You'll need to find another issue other than RTKBA then to rally them. There won't be nearly that many involved in a para-military group ready to die for the cause."

I guess that's your way of figuring out here who would "die for the cause?"

243 posted on 02/18/2003 4:39:01 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: GraniteStateConservative
"Barbara Boxer doesn't change any of her votes based on the knowledge that some people have guns. "

More "bait?"

244 posted on 02/18/2003 4:41:12 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: SJackson
Dale Bowman isn't a gun nut. He's just a nut.
245 posted on 02/18/2003 4:49:58 PM PST by semaj
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To: GraniteStateConservative; Squantos
"You'll be branded terrorists and you'll get caught and executed. The IRA did the same thing once and they got caught, too. They had the advantage of living in areas that were sympathetic to their cause. Guns won't ever be totally outlawed in the U.S. You may see liberal wet dreams like required gun registrations and such-- but those would be tolerated by the general public and the public would rat armed resistance out at every opportunity if the cause was gun registrations. There's a difference between supporting something like "general RTKBA" and having people allow militia groups to terrorize people by sniping out of cars-- even if those people are just politicians."

You are good at what you do, I'll give you that.

"You couldn't keep your activities secret enough to pull it off. "

I guess now that you have successfully introduced a scenario where the armed forces goes against the people, and you have successfully mangaged to identify people who have rose to your bait with what they might do, (kept the quotes, I'm sure) now you want to know how they will keep it secret.

Just to make it crystal clear, I seriously question you and your motives.

246 posted on 02/18/2003 4:52:54 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: ez
..."this article means absolutely nothing, since it is built off a false premise."

"False Premise: The purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect the right to use a gun to hunt.

"Truth: The purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect the right of the people to protect themselves from government."

Actually the 2A is about hunting. The right of the people not to be endangered or oppressed by a tyrannical government implies that when government becomes overbearing and tyrannical, it is open season on government, no tags required.

247 posted on 02/18/2003 4:55:05 PM PST by semaj
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To: SJackson
This guy is just trying to make himself, his hobby & his guns acceptable to the anti-gun people. But its not possible, if they don't think he is a gun nut, they think he is someone who kills for fun. He is, & always will be unexceptable to the anti-gun people or I should say the anti-gun nuts.
248 posted on 02/18/2003 5:03:50 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Glenn
I was just messing with you, taking your post literally.
249 posted on 02/18/2003 8:46:48 PM PST by Lizard_King
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To: Travis McGee
FYI for review.....
250 posted on 02/18/2003 10:00:27 PM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: mhking
the REAL gun-nuts are the creeps like chuckie schumer, hitlery klintoon, teddy kennedy and others of that sort.

the SECOND AMENDMENT is NOT about hunting ducks, but rather hunting TYRANTS!

FRee dixie,sw

251 posted on 02/19/2003 8:13:22 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: RogueIsland
It amazes me when I hear a hunter who is blissfully sighting in his .300 Win Mag state with no hint of irony that he sees no reason why anyone needs an "assault weapon".

I agree with him.

However I would not prohibit the purchase or possession of AR-15's or Ak-47's, but I would up the age to 25 years old. You see, I've been hunting since I was a very little kid, I served 6 years in the Army and have shot everything from M-14's, M-16's, to real BAR's. (they are all inferior to a quality hunting rifle). In that time I have noticed the maturity of gun owners can be predicted by their choice of firearm.

Sorry, but WE are responsible for alot, not all, but a lot, of our own problems.

252 posted on 02/19/2003 9:33:35 AM PST by elbucko (Blue steel, brown walnut and a steady aim..)
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To: chuknospam
It in no way affects my right to shoot my assault rifle at the gun range.

wish I'd said that...

254 posted on 02/20/2003 9:10:29 AM PST by packrat01
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To: SJackson
It is not from hordes of deer that the security of a free state needs defending.
255 posted on 02/20/2003 9:13:23 AM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: thepitts
Will we Americans passively lie down before a government disdainful of it?s best citizens?

yup

Will we believe those who assure us that the police officer will shield us from the criminal?

Yup, again; sorry to say...

256 posted on 02/20/2003 9:55:00 AM PST by packrat01
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To: Ches; RogueIsland
The trapshooters insist they are the "good" guys and condemn the black rifle set and people coming in there with their Glocks.

Yes, it is unfortunate, that some sport shooters are like that.
Most realize that their guns could be next. See why the Amateur Trapshooting Assocation is not moving to Illinois here

257 posted on 02/20/2003 11:37:45 AM PST by MissTargets
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To: packrat01
maybe some...and unfortunately, probably a lot...but never me!!

TC
258 posted on 02/22/2003 2:06:51 PM PST by USMC_tangocharlie (Victory belongs to the man who wants it the most, and believes in it the longest.)
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To: chicagolady
Rod "the Second Amendment HATER" Blagojevich!

Evidently his family did not learn much from the Third Reich's gun control---and its results??

259 posted on 02/22/2003 2:17:49 PM PST by ninenot
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To: The Duke
...but even though your neighbor had "completely lost his mind," he never used one of his guns irresponsibly, right? So he sort of proves the point of the NRA, GOA, etc.,: most gun owners are responsible, law-abiding people.
260 posted on 02/22/2003 2:21:18 PM PST by ninenot
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