1 posted on
02/16/2003 12:43:37 PM PST by
freedom44
To: Doctor Stochastic; SJackson; knighthawk; McGavin999; Stultis; river rat; Live free or die; ...
iran ping
2 posted on
02/16/2003 12:44:43 PM PST by
freedom44
To: freedom44
As if a light were switched off, the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlevi, portrayed for 20 years as a progressive modern ruler by Islamic standards, was suddenly, in 1977-1978, turned into this foaming at the mouth monster by the international left media. Soon after becoming President in 1977, Jimmy Carter launched a deliberate campaign to undermine the Shah.This will be repeated over and over if an American president ever listens to those jerks in Europe and let's them sway his actions!
To: freedom44
Jimmy Carter couldn't even grow peanuts succesfully.
5 posted on
02/16/2003 12:54:02 PM PST by
hgro
To: freedom44
The case of the Shah illustrates beautifully the folly of trying to create a free democratic republic in a society that is not ready for one.
You cannot have freedom of assembly, speach, due process, etc in a society in which terrorists and extremists will use them for subversion.
To: freedom44
It is wonderful how no one in the middle east is ever responsible for their own fate, there's always some damn Westerner ultimately behind it. It does make the middle easterners look like irresponsible idiots, but if that's the excuse they want to keep hiding behind, so be it.
8 posted on
02/16/2003 1:02:39 PM PST by
xJones
To: summer; freedom44; joanie-f; snopercod; ladyinred; Squantos; harpseal
Some details here, about the socialists' who overthrew the Shah of Iran.
The overthrow was engineered in Moscow; we monitored the transmissions, the orders, each and every step of the way ... while Carter ordered "no action."
The same happened to a couple countries in southern Africa.
The same occurred with regard to Grenada, but President Reagan immediately ordered "action." The same occurred with regard to Panama, but President Bush I ordered "action."
President Carter learned nothing, because the lesson is mostly that we must be prepared to act, and it is expensive to be so, yet that costs less than when we are not.
Unfortunately, we currently are not prepared; thank the Clinton Legacy. For as much as the buildup may seem, we are woefully without spare parts for maintenance, nor do we have the depots we need to support maintenance in the event of an emergency.
We, if anything, are desparate for a four-fold increase in the number of suits for our forces to wear in the event of a chemical or biological attack.
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14 posted on
02/16/2003 1:27:04 PM PST by
backhoe
To: freedom44
When I tell people I consider Jimmah Carter one of the FOUNDING FATHERS of modern day terrorism they look all confused. I explain a little and of course they get more confused. One weak President opened up this Pandora's Box and we are seeing the results today. Very sad.
15 posted on
02/16/2003 1:34:33 PM PST by
alisasny
To: freedom44
The U.S. Role in Korea in 1979 and 1980, Carter admin. culpability in the death of S. Korean student protestors (one big reason why the S. Koreans don't trust the US),
The Cherokee Files - The Kwangju Incident.
19 posted on
02/16/2003 2:27:03 PM PST by
Ragtime Cowgirl
("The Internet is a frightful danger to all of us.'' - Walter Cronkite)
To: freedom44
You ruined my day by mentioning Jimmy.
To: freedom44
Jimmy Carter make foreign policy mistakes? That's un-possible.
To: freedom44
It would not be a big stretch to pronounce Jimmy Carter as the Founding Father of Middle East Islamic fundamentalism.
By encouraging the ascension of the Ayatollah to power in Iran, he prepared the way for everything that's happened since.
I realize that the Middle East was no "walk in the park" prior to the Shah's losing power, but there was a rough stability. Iraq, Turkey, and Iran were all secular and provided a rough balance to the religious regimes.
27 posted on
02/16/2003 4:41:56 PM PST by
BfloGuy
(The past is like a different country, they do things different there.)
To: freedom44
Interesting, I didn't realize that Khomeni was a communist. Also, may Jimmy Carter rot in hell.
To: freedom44
Top 10 reasons Jimmuh Cahtuh will go down in history as the worst president in US history.
10) "Amercans need to curb their inordinant fear of Communism."
9) "The American Economy is too large to be sustained"
8) Wearing sweaters as a response to energy shortages
7) Double digit unemployment
6) Double digit inflation
5) Double digit interest rates
4) His response to the Russians invading Afghanistan was to punnish our Olympic athleats
3) His shameless grandstanding as Menachim Begin and Anwar Sadat make "peace"
2) See above article
1) His failure to assume the role of Commander in Chief buy ignoring the exhistance of "the football". A gross deriliction of his duty as POTUS..IMHO
And thats just while he was in office!! Since then he has tried to redeam himself by being a pain in the ass to every administration since he was voted out in a landslide. His acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to him simply as a protest again the US has earned him a place on my permanant sh*t list. Some in this forum may think Clinton was bad. Clinton was a sociopath, but Carter IMO was worse. His antipathy to the needs of the country he swore to protect was and still is palpable. Fortunately the American People realized that and sent him packing. Only now are they seeing that about Clinton.
29 posted on
02/16/2003 5:43:11 PM PST by
Pharmer
To: freedom44
bump
32 posted on
02/16/2003 9:04:10 PM PST by
GOPJ
To: freedom44
Jimmah Carter needs to burn in Hell for what he's done to various people around the world by enslaving them to tyrants.
I can't wait to piss on his grave.
33 posted on
02/16/2003 9:18:10 PM PST by
Sparta
(Statism is a Mental Illness)
To: freedom44
Let's also not forget that President carter's brother Billy was caught by the CIA recieving an illegal $220,000 "loan" from Khadafy in Libya, and that as soon as the story of this sting broke in the press we saw Carter's newfound "friends" in Iran overrun *just* the American embassy (rather than the embassy of the hated - by them - British), an event that wiped Billy's illegal loan off the front pages, never to be mentioned by the press again...
Very convenient, all in all.
34 posted on
02/16/2003 9:25:45 PM PST by
Southack
(Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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