[unspun]

"Love and forgive our enemies? Not unless and until our enemies repent is forgiveness required by us. Please help me understand where you get this idea?

A fellow who said, "Vengence is mine, I will repay." and "Love your enemies." God showed His love, "in that while we were sinners, Christ died for us." and He commands us to love all our neighbors as ourselves. We have no right to withold forgiveness any more than repentence is repentence to us. (And of course that is not to confuse forgiveness with earthly clemency.)

[Just mythoughts]

So what is our Heavenly Father's vengence?

"Love your enemies" We are also told if we spare the rod we spoil the child. So if we are to correct our children out of love, seems like loving our enemies requires carrying a "BIG STICK"

It is also written that Christ will return with a two-edge sword, so who is He going to use that on? Christ first advent was a sacrificial lamb, second advent He is coming to clean house. Christians are suppose have gospel armour on to stand against the firey darts of Satan.

You can forgive all you want but to accurately describe what it take to gain forgiveness, is repentence.