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To: unspun
So what is our Heavenly Father's vengence?

"Love your enemies" We are also told if we spare the rod we spoil the child. So if we are to correct our children out of love, seems like loving our enemies requires carrying a "BIG STICK"

It is also written that Christ will return with a two-edge sword, so who is He going to use that on? Christ first advent was a sacrificial lamb, second advent He is coming to clean house. Christians are suppose have gospel armour on to stand against the firey darts of Satan.

You can forgive all you want but to accurately describe what it take to gain forgiveness, is repentence.

141 posted on 02/15/2003 11:09:56 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
God's vengence is irrecoverable, eternal damnation, something far worse than anything we could "do." (Yet it's separation from Him, for the sake of those who choose Him.)

Once again, vengence is His. In Christ, he has already forgiven all men. The sacrifice has already been made, once for all. Remember, Jesus said, "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." Then He said, "It is accomplished." Only those who turn to Him will accept forgiveness, however.

As Christ and his disciples relate, things such as swords and rods are still to be used.
147 posted on 02/15/2003 11:44:34 AM PST by unspun ("A civil society demands from each of us good will and respect, fair dealing and forgiveness." - W.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Addendum:

Love thy neighbor, but pick your neighborhood.

An eye for an eye, and a broken leg for a broken leg. (I just made this one up). :)
150 posted on 02/15/2003 11:53:10 AM PST by RecentConvert (Pacificists are the parasites of freedom)
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