China quietly gets ultra-cutting edge advanced SU-30MKK Fighter Bombers from Russia.

Notes from the Pentagon. (Washington Times) via Drudge Headliner ^ | 14 FEB 2003 | Bill Gertz and Rowan Scarborough

[vannrox]

Russia delivered the latest batch of advanced SU-30MKK fighter bombers to China within the past month and additional jets are on the way, according to U.S. intelligence officials.

Russia's arms exports used to be public. But under pressure from Beijing, Moscow agreed to keep secret its major weapons systems transfers to China.

[Poohbah]

So we should let them sin?

How do you propose actually stopping them from "sinning?"

[lavaroise]

How do you propose actually stopping them from "sinning?"

You are not even answering the question. Do we allow felons in jail to have nuclear weapons and SU30MKKs simply because our forces are barely superior?

The answer to your question is: kill them. That's what we did to the Nazies and the Japanese.

[Poohbah]

You are not even answering the question.

Excuse me, shiite-head, but your question is inherently nonsensical. How, pray tell, do we stop a sovereign nation from doing this, short of going to war?

Do we allow felons in jail to have nuclear weapons and SU30MKKs simply because our forces are barely superior?

First, our forces are not "barely" superior.

Aside from the mission of invading mainlaind China--which is a fool's errand--our forces are capable of maintaining escalation dominance against the Chinese.

Second, I was not aware that the Chinese were felons in jail. Perhaps you might enlighten us with a summary of the trial and the jury verdict, and identify which prison in the United States has a billion-plus inmates.

The answer to your question is: kill them. That's what we did to the Nazies and the Japanese.

And people accuse ME of being a stone-crazy-a$$ mofo.

The Chinese government is like Enron. Their growth figures are BS, and they're going to go SPLAT! sooner as opposed to later.

I see no particular need to exterminate millions of Chinese merely because you're feeling insecure about something.

[lavaroise]

Do you, perchance, recall the events of 1989-1991?

Gees, yes, what a crash. Meanwhile our ENRON executives are prosecuted, but their guys are still heading nuke forces. What crash? Certainly the Soviet "executives" did not feel it like the rest of the Russians.

Fine. Please demonstrate the objective reality of that claim by abstaining from eating for a year, and I'll be happy to talk further with you.

Just eat people who eat the bread. It's called the food chain, and Russia is well on top of it given its nuclear weaponry.

And a fat lot of good they did the ol' USSR, eh?

Yes nukes did. Wouldn't you think so in their position? After all they kept them.

[lavaroise]

Second, I was not aware that the Chinese were felons in jail. Perhaps you might enlighten us with a summary of the trial and the jury verdict, and identify which prison in the United States has a billion-plus inmates.

It's called containment, embargo and blocades. Except now we are relaxing this confinement, to our peril and own confinement.

I see no particular need to exterminate millions of Chinese merely because you're feeling insecure about something.

Spare me your guilt trip. I am not into extermination, nor do I feel insecure. I am quite aware that any nation owning nukes is in a state of sin and capable of arbitrarily destroying the other. All I am saying is that if we want to stop their sins from affecting us, we have to kill them. End of story.

[lavaroise]

I see no particular need to exterminate millions of Chinese merely because you're feeling insecure about something.

I see no particular need to allow millions of Americans getting exterminated merely because you're feeling insecure about something.

Remember, 911? Maybe?

[Poohbah]

Gees, yes, what a crash. Meanwhile our ENRON executives are prosecuted, but their guys are still heading nuke forces.

Said forces are NOT aging gracefully.

What crash? Certainly the Soviet "executives" did not feel it like the rest of the Russians.

Ken Lay and company are still living like kings, though.

One can put off reality--for a little while.

The Gods of the Copybook Headings have just STARTED having their fun with the XUSSR.

Just eat people who eat the bread. It's called the food chain, and Russia is well on top of it given its nuclear weaponry.

Fine. Please note that you just ate the people whose surplus labor gives you the ability to pay for acquisition and maintenance of those nuclear weapons.

And that was in 1991.

Yes nukes did. Wouldn't you think so in their position? After all they kept them.

I know folks who kept flashy cars until they went bankrupt. Didn't do them much good...

[lavaroise]

The Chinese government is like Enron. Their growth figures are BS, and they're going to go SPLAT! sooner as opposed to later.

ZZZZZZ! Yawn! Yes, ultimately their system fails in that it has too little interest in growth and safeguards to allow that growth, that does not mean they cannot rule the world.

Goodnight Poobah.

[Poohbah]

Remember, 911? Maybe?

Yes, I do.

Funny, the folks who did that were all Arabs.

[Poohbah]

ZZZZZZ! Yawn! Yes, ultimately their system fails in that it has too little interest in growth and safeguards to allow that growth, that does not mean they cannot rule the world.

"Aside from being complete failures, they're really quite successful."

[lavaroise]

I know folks who kept flashy cars until they went bankrupt. Didn't do them much good...

Was it easy for collection agencies to go after shiny ICBMs pointed at their children?

[Poohbah]

It's called containment, embargo and blocades.

Which we never used on China.

Except now we are relaxing this confinement, to our peril and own confinement.

And just HOW are the ChiComs going to "confine" us?

[lavaroise]

Funny, the folks who did that were all Arabs.

Tsk tsk tsk, you know better than this stereotypical racial crap.

[lavaroise]

Fine. Please note that you just ate the people whose surplus labor gives you the ability to pay for acquisition and maintenance of those nuclear weapons.

Well, it's your choice. Either you will pay and owe up to American nukes, or you will to Chinese.... Your choice buddy.

[Poohbah]

Was it easy for collection agencies to go after shiny ICBMs pointed at their children?

Actually, some of the people I'm talking about did just that...they pointed guns at the collection agents and their families.

Didn't do them much good...they still lost the damn car, but they also lost their freedom or their lives.

[chilepepper]

And how many combat trained pilots can the Chinese airforce field? or do you think that Chinese (or Russian) combat flight simulators make up for this? if so, i have a bridge to sell you in London...

[lavaroise]

Yes we shunned and confined the Chinese from, say, voting in our congress to do something about the nukes pointed at them.

And just HOW are the ChiComs going to "confine" us?

Pointing nukes at each other, just as one holds one in a duel in a street without other resorts to justice and daily work, is confinement.

[Poohbah]

Well, it's your choice. Either you will pay and owe up to American nukes

Hey, we're paying for American nukes right now.

or you will to Chinese.... Your choice buddy.

Already made.

You still haven't noticed the problem, eh? Russia's economy is in the toilet. Their ability to buy those nukes, and to maintain them, is severely curtailed.

[Poohbah]

Pointing nukes at each other, just as one holds one in a duel in a street without other resorts to justice and daily work, is confinement.

And we sail where we please, and we do exactly as we please on the world ocean...some "confinement."

[Poohbah]

And how many combat trained pilots can the Chinese airforce field? or do you think that Chinese (or Russian) combat flight simulators make up for this? if so, i have a bridge to sell you in London...

Please, you're arguing with the eleven-star generals here on Free Republic. They've spent MONTHS playing Su-27 Flanker and Risk, they know FAR more than you do...