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France stance on Iraq hardens
BBC News ^ | February 14, 2003 | BBC News

Posted on 02/14/2003 12:12:37 PM PST by MadIvan


De Villepin believes inspections should be continued

European nations who oppose a rush to military action against Iraq have responded confidently to a report by United Nations weapons inspectors to the Security Council.

In a speech which drew a rare show of applause from many in the chamber, French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin said that inspections were making progress and should be given more time to succeed.

Considering that the audience consisted of representatives of some of the foulest dictatorships on the face of the earth, that is hardly a ringing endorsement - Ivan

The option of inspections had not been taken to its conclusion, he said, adding that force could only be used as a last resort.

Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov also called for more time for inspections, saying that substantial progress had been made and this could not be discounted.

Mr Ivanov was also applauded, prompting council chairman Joschka Fischer to call the chamber to order.

Not in a timely fashion, one presumes - Ivan

The United Kingdom and Spain, who have backed United States calls for military action in the event of Iraqi non-compliance, said the threat of force was still necessary.

UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said the UN had to keep its nerve and ensure that Iraq fully complied with its obligations.

Spanish Foreign Minister Ana Palacio made the point that the inspectors had not said Baghdad was co-operating fully and unconditionally.

The ministers' speeches followed reports by chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix and International Atomic Energy Authority chairman Mohammed ElBaradei.

Both reports mentioned developments which the inspectors say could indicate a more co-operative approach by Iraq.

Alternative to war

The BBC's John Sopel in Paris says Mr de Villepin was emboldened by the reports, and gave a carefully crafted speech designed to answer his critics head on.

"France believes ... the option of inspections has not been taken to the end," he said, "...and the use of force would be so fraught with risk that it could only be envisioned as a last resort."

"There is an alternative to war, disarming Iraq through inspections," he added.

This shows a fundamental and willful ignorance on the part of France - Iraq is already supposed to be disarmed. The inspectors are just supposed to verify this. Any breach in this, is an indication that Iraq has broken the terms by which the Gulf War was ended - Ivan

Mr de Villepin also described France as "an old country" from a continent which had known "wars, occupation and barbarity".

"It has never ceased to stand upright in the face of history and before mankind," he said. "It wishes resolutely to act with all the members of the international community."

The snickering about France "standing upright in the face of history" is still continuing, I take it. After all, they're playing the role of Saddam's favourite goat right now, all tarted up in garters - Ivan

His remarks were intended as a response to United States Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who described France and Germany as "the old Europe".

'Sufficient majority'

Earlier on Friday, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder repeated his opposition to military action.

Mr Schroeder said the foreign ministers of France, Russia and Germany would present a common position after the reports were made.

Speaking after a meeting with Swedish Prime Minister Goeran Persson, he said he hoped there would be a "sufficient majority" in support of the view.

The comments came as Austria, a neutral country which broadly supports the French and German position, withdrew permission for US troops and equipment to transit across its territory.

Austrian Defence Minister Herbert Scheibner said the ban would remain in force unless there is a second Security Council resolution on Iraq.

It means that US troops based in Germany will have to be taken to Italy for transfer to the Gulf region.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; blix; bush; chirac; france; germany; iraq; saddam; schroeder; uk; un; us
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To: eyespysomething
Afraid so. Sorry mate.

Regards, Ivan

21 posted on 02/14/2003 12:27:40 PM PST by MadIvan (But there's always Guinness...)
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To: MadIvan
I'm sorry to see Austria join the Axis of Weasel. Oh well, screw 'em. I hated The Sound of Music ever since I was a kid.
22 posted on 02/14/2003 12:27:54 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
Ignore the stinkin frogs and lets go forward on the liberation of Iraq
23 posted on 02/14/2003 12:28:18 PM PST by David1
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To: MadIvan
Delay, delay, delay. The Austrians, French, Germans, and Belgians will sit around doing nothing productive.

They are no longer the Axis of Weasels, but the Axis of Wankers.

I do agree with this Axis on two points though:

- No second resolution needed.

- More inspectors need to be sent in.

I nominate the V Corps, the 1st Marine Division, the 101st Airborne, and the Desert Rats as the new inspectors. But these crack troops must have a carpet rolled out first -- carpet bombing, that is.

Let's get on with it!
24 posted on 02/14/2003 12:28:44 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: Dog Gone
I'm not surprised by Austria's stance. These days they do whatever the Germans tell them anyway. I would call them "lickspittle little Nancy boys", but I already used up that epithet on the French.

Regards, Ivan

25 posted on 02/14/2003 12:29:10 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Mr de Villepin also described France as "an old country" from a continent which had known "wars, occupation and barbarity".

"It has never ceased to stand upright in the face of history and before mankind," he said

Sort of like the "standing upright" of the Vichy regime, eh? I seem to recall them being very cooperative with the SS in the rounding up of French Jews.

Yeah, they're "stand up" guys, all right. The only problem is, they goose-step when they stand up.

26 posted on 02/14/2003 12:29:39 PM PST by Cincinatus
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To: MadIvan
"France stance on Iraq hardens"

'Hardens' is fine, I suppose, but a native speaker of English might use 'congeals'.

27 posted on 02/14/2003 12:29:42 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: MadIvan
You have got to read this :

Mark Steyn: It's not really about Saddam

To M. Chirac, Tony Blair is the odd man out, with his strange Anglo-Saxon hang-ups about the transatlantic alliance.
....Let Blair emerge from an Anglo-American war on Iraq with his worldview resoundingly confirmed, and it's possible that Europe will develop in ways that are not in France's interest.
....

Would love to hear your opinion!

28 posted on 02/14/2003 12:30:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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To: You Dirty Rats
I nominated our own beloved Gurkhas to inspect where Saddam Hussein happens to be.

"Nothing to see, Sergeant Major. Nothing much left to see, at any rate."

Regards, Ivan

29 posted on 02/14/2003 12:30:37 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I've been utterly convinced that France would jump on the bandwagon at the very last minute (as it their wont), but now I'm not so sure. At this point, that 180 might be just too difficult to maneuver.
30 posted on 02/14/2003 12:31:32 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: alrea
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31 posted on 02/14/2003 12:31:43 PM PST by rimmont
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To: MadIvan
So the smug French want more inspectors; well in a few days were going to be sending about 250,000 "inspectors" to Iraq. I don't believe we need to open the torture chambers and weapons labs to make these a$$holes look undeniably stupid and shameful, they do that every time they open their mouths.
32 posted on 02/14/2003 12:32:04 PM PST by anoldafvet (You need to be suspicious of anyone who eats snails.)
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To: anoldafvet
When we find those weapons, leftists both foreign and domestic will claim we planted them. Bank on it.
33 posted on 02/14/2003 12:35:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: MadIvan
It appears the Security Council process is dead or will result in a veto. Ivan, will Blair proceed without a second resolution and if he does can he survive as Labour leader and P.M.?
34 posted on 02/14/2003 12:36:08 PM PST by colorado tanker ("Hi, my name is Hans and I'd like to inspect you" (overheard pick up line))
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To: MadIvan
One reason to thank the French: They have demonstrated that the UN as an institution is inimical to the national interest of the US and other freedom-loving nations. I pray that the Bush administration now withdraws from the diplomatic process at the UN. That organization has met the enemy and surrendered.
35 posted on 02/14/2003 12:36:40 PM PST by Faraday
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To: richardtavor
Oops! Typos...

Churchill and we hearing the same statements

36 posted on 02/14/2003 12:36:53 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and pray for the French....)
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To: anoldafvet
Isn't the French Fags giving military advice like The Red Sox giving World Series advice??

Pray for GW and the Troops

37 posted on 02/14/2003 12:42:14 PM PST by bray
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To: MadIvan
De Villepin thinks the inspectors will disarm Iraq? How so? Gee, they've been there inspecting and yet are they disarming as he thinks they are most qualified to do?

Shame on the French for perptuating this shabby farce.Such a big joke, hahaha....they are children to think anyone doesn't see through this charade.Bush, end it.Light this candle and get the bombers on their way...say Monday night.
38 posted on 02/14/2003 12:43:49 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: Lee Heggy
I think the French and the rest of them should be 'inspected' to find out what the foot-dragging agenda is REALLY all about.

You mean things like this?

http://www.middle-east.alcatel.com/about

39 posted on 02/14/2003 12:45:41 PM PST by snarkpup
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To: spokeshave
The French are there to be spotters for Iraq.
40 posted on 02/14/2003 12:46:14 PM PST by OldFriend (Pray)
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