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And they talk of peace (National Post vs France, great read)
National Post ^ | Februari 13 2003 | Andrew Coyne

Posted on 02/13/2003 3:04:42 PM PST by knighthawk

Having liberated France from the Germans, and having sheltered the Germans for 40-odd years from the Russians, and having poured billions of dollars into rescuing the Russians from themselves, the United States now finds, as it races to protect its own citizens from madmen with doomsday weapons, its most implacable foes are ... France, Germany and Russia. You know, the peace lobby.

I will leave it to others to speculate on the motives of these three nations, or to discuss their qualifications to lecture others on the evils of interventionism. (A poll shows 57% of Germans agree with the statement that Americans are "a nation of warmongers." Two, three, four ...) What is unarguable is that their hostility to any effort to rein in Saddam Hussein was in evidence long before this crisis; it has nothing to do with questions of peace or war.

When the issue was sanctions, they were against sanctions. When the issue was inspections, they were against inspections. And while they now profess to favour disarmament, they have not only consistently opposed any practical measure to effect it over the years, they have themselves been Saddam's chief suppliers of weapons of mass destruction -- and may be even to this day. It is difficult to escape the conclusion that they are not so much interested in opposing war as in supporting Saddam.

The French, needless to say, are the most deeply implicated. France has been romancing Iraq since at least 1972, when Saddam, already the number two man in the Ba'athist regime, nationalized the Iraqi oil industry, more or less at the point of a gun. Had the West held firm in its opposition, the putsch might not have succeeded, and Saddam would never have acquired the revenues to pursue his ambitions. But France broke ranks -- in exchange for a cut of the action.

The pattern was to be repeated three years later, when Saddam began shopping for a fast-breeder nuclear reactor, with a view to acquiring nuclear weapons within 10 years. No one was willing to provide him with the advanced technology he was seeking -- not even the Russians, who had sold him with a small research reactor some years earlier. It was not until he met with the French prime minister, one Jacques Chirac, that Saddam found what he was looking for. The French agreed, knowing full well what Saddam was up to, in exchange for $3-billion in cash, some oil concessions and a huge contract to purchase France's Mirage F-1 fighter planes. Oh, and one other thing: The Franco-Iraqi Nuclear Co-operation Treaty stipulated that "all persons of Jewish race" be excluded from participating.

More deals followed: armoured vehicles, surface-to-air missiles, antiship missiles. By 1982, Iraq accounted for 40% of all French arms exports. Other countries -- the Russians, the Italians, the British, less so the Americans -- also sold arms to Iraq, especially during the Iran-Iraq war, when revolutionary Iran seemed the greater threat to the region. The Germans, egregiously, provided Saddam with much of his chemical weapons capacity, from mustard gas to nerve gases like Tabun and Sarin, as well as the ballistic missile technology with which to deliver them to places like Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. But none did so with anything like the audacity of the French.

Even after the invasion of Kuwait in 1990, French support for Iraq did not waver. François Mitterrand went so far as to make a speech to the UN in September of that year in which he lent legitimacy to Iraq's territorial claims. The French were early and ardent enthusiasts for lifting the sanctions imposed after the war, and did everything in their power to undermine the disarmament regime. In 1997, following a series of confrontations with UN inspectors, the Security Council passed Resolution 1134, which threatened to impose travel restrictions on Iraqi officials (quelle horreur!) if the harassment continued. France abstained (along with Russia and China). Emboldened, Saddam stepped up his defiance. The inspections regime soon collapsed.

In 1999, Resolution 1284 greatly expanded the existing "oil-for-food" exemption to the sanctions (around the Clinton administration, according to Kenneth Pollack, a senior advisor on Iraq, it became known as "oil-for-stuff"), and promised to lift all remaining economic sanctions. The only condition: Saddam had to let the inspectors back in, and show progress towards disarmament. Again the French abstained, this time after promising to vote in favour. The reason: The Russians had abstained, and the French were worried they would lose their share of the booming "oil-for-food" trade, by then worth about US$17-billion a year, if they did not do the same.

And so it continues to this day, even at the cost of wrecking the United Nations (and NATO in the bargain). And yet, in the face of this sordid Franco-Russian record of trading Security Council votes for Iraqi oil revenues, it is the Americans who are accused, on no evident grounds whatever, of being motivated by oil-lust.

You would think the Germans would have some issues about being involved, however indirectly, in gassing Jews. You would think the French would feel a certain déja vu about collaborating with dictators. You would think the Russians ...

But you would be wrong.


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KEYWORDS: france; iraq; nationalpost; vivelafrance
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1 posted on 02/13/2003 3:04:42 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: dennisw; TopQuark; Alouette; veronica; weikel; EU=4th Reich; BrooklynGOP; Jimmyclyde; Buggman; ...
The pattern was to be repeated three years later, when Saddam began shopping for a fast-breeder nuclear reactor, with a view to acquiring nuclear weapons within 10 years. No one was willing to provide him with the advanced technology he was seeking -- not even the Russians, who had sold him with a small research reactor some years earlier. It was not until he met with the French prime minister, one Jacques Chirac, that Saddam found what he was looking for. The French agreed, knowing full well what Saddam was up to, in exchange for $3-billion in cash, some oil concessions and a huge contract to purchase France's Mirage F-1 fighter planes. Oh, and one other thing: The Franco-Iraqi Nuclear Co-operation Treaty stipulated that "all persons of Jewish race" be excluded from participating.

Middle East list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 02/13/2003 3:05:36 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: Hacksaw; DeaconBenjamin; vote_quimby; Norvokov; kitkat; grammymoon; PAR35; Siobhan; BlueLancer; ...
Europe-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

3 posted on 02/13/2003 3:06:07 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Other countries -- the Russians, the Italians, the British, less so the Americans -- also sold arms to Iraq, especially during the Iran-Iraq war . . .

Just to be clear on this point. We, i.e. America, did not sell weapons to Iraq either during or after the Iran-Iraq war.

4 posted on 02/13/2003 3:11:01 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: knighthawk
Please Don't take me of the list...I have no where else to go!

Seriously, keep up the excellent posting.......or there's gonna be trouble. LOL

Frank
5 posted on 02/13/2003 3:11:28 PM PST by ffusco (sempre ragione)
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To: knighthawk
Chirac is more bent that a corkscrew.
6 posted on 02/13/2003 3:17:09 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: knighthawk
bump
7 posted on 02/13/2003 3:17:11 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: knighthawk
"It was not until he met with the French prime minister, one Jacques Chirac..."

Black Jack Shellac and Saddamn go back to at least 1975!

Verrry interrresting.
8 posted on 02/13/2003 3:18:16 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (LIBERATE IRAQ, SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!)
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To: knighthawk
What is it about socialists and thier support of facist dictators? Is there really a difernce between Germany's old National Socialism and the emerging Global Socialism of the blame-America-first crowd?
9 posted on 02/13/2003 3:21:35 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear
No: Ex-leftist now tests bounds of Germany's limits from right (
10 posted on 02/13/2003 3:26:23 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk


Chirac identified with the young Hussein, he dreamed of living viariously through the new dictator, delighting in his anti-semitism and dreams of an empire. The New Iraqi Empire would annex all of Kuwait and ultimately Iran. Imagine all that oil controlled by a Franco-Iraqi pact. OPEC's authority would be severly restrained and poor USA would have to bow to the whims of Paris. Should war kill thousands of Isrealis- ce la vie.

Its almost too revolting to imagine.
11 posted on 02/13/2003 3:26:43 PM PST by ffusco (sempre ragione)
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To: knighthawk
Bump for later reading.
12 posted on 02/13/2003 3:44:03 PM PST by The Iguana
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To: knighthawk
Excellent read - thanks!
13 posted on 02/13/2003 3:46:34 PM PST by Ryle
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To: knighthawk
One wonders what kind of blackmail movies Saddam made of Chirac back in the nuclear plant selling days.

Perhaps similar to Scott Ritter's teenie-bopper honey trap videos?

14 posted on 02/13/2003 3:56:14 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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Chirac is a confirmed bribe-taker, is he not?

Perhaps the blackmail which allows Saddam to lead Chirac by the nose is proof of million dollar Swiss accounts for "services rendered" in the nuclear plant deal?

15 posted on 02/13/2003 3:58:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: knighthawk
read later
16 posted on 02/13/2003 3:58:27 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: knighthawk; All
Take a look at this

France and Iraq

France's economic ties to Iraq

Opinion polls show almost 80% of people in France are against a US-led war against Iraq.

Many of those see American military and economic aims in Iraq as one and the same thing.

America's critics claim that America's policy on Iraq is driven by its appetite for oil.

But could similar claims be made about France?

click on link for the whole article

17 posted on 02/13/2003 3:59:30 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: knighthawk
BTTT
18 posted on 02/13/2003 4:03:44 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: knighthawk

19 posted on 02/13/2003 4:10:37 PM PST by geedee
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To: Kaslin
Thanks, good catch. Posted it here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/842789/posts
20 posted on 02/13/2003 4:10:53 PM PST by knighthawk
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