LIVE THREAD: Estrada Filibuster DAY 2

http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | February 13, 2003

[VRWC_minion]

YEs, I'm half listening also.

The main thing to get from this is THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT DESPARATELY.

If they had a good case for their posistion he would be hammering it over and over again. Instead he is using his debate time to discuss some obscure bill that isn't even on the radar screen.

Intuition tells me that if the R's continue to press on this the Rats will cave because in the interest of getting on to other business.

[cake_crumb]

I'm really sick of the Senate Dems. We've got this war on terror and economic problems which need to be resolved.

I would love to hear some talking economic heads speculate that Dem obstructionism is causinf as much or MORE uncertainty in the markets and consumer confidence than worries about Iraq or the DPRNK

I guess that's why the Dems are doing this. It has nothing to do with Estrada's ideology, and everything to do with keeping gas prices sky high and the economy screweed up, because as ling as they screw around with the Estrada nomination, the better chance they have - they hope - of making their dream of another one-term Republican president come true so they can stick a Dem in the White House and get on with the One World, Third Way government...at least until the Ixlamakazis feel the infidel socialists have outlived their usefulness.

[abner]

I was still up for the repeat of the repeat of Donahue. I sat here and laughed like a fool, all by myself!

My dad called when it was live and I watched it then. Then I watched the rebroadcast. I watched Donawho twice in one night, I'm so ashamed. It was worth it though to see Miller blow him out of the water.

[Dog]

Daschle's sidekick....the election stealer Tim Johnson is now whining..

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

I missed this, this is my first day tuning in. What did I miss. Who told the dems that this was a soap box for them.

[Miss Marple]

GONG! Back to the high school. Bomb squad has been called. Showing aerial shots of the kids milling around outside the high school.

[Carolinamom]

...I may say some bad words....

I hereby declare amnesty for you in cases referring to dems. OR you can just use your duck tape!

[latrans]

Everyone here should e-mail or call their Senators to express how important we consider this issue.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

[woodyinscc]

Howlin gave me a heads up on this but it didn't replay
here til 3:00 Am What happened?

[Helen]

Dasshole and Tim Johnson must be pretending to carry on business as usual to make people think it's not them obstructing Estrada's nomination!

[MurryMom]

The Bush administration is missing the point in the Senate battle over Miguel Estrada, its controversial nominee to the powerful D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. Democrats who have vowed to filibuster the nomination are not engaging in "shameful politics," as the president has put it, nor are they anti-Latino, as Republicans have cynically charged. They are insisting that the White House respect the Senate's role in confirming judicial nominees.

The Bush administration has shown no interest in working with Senate Democrats to select nominees who could be approved by consensus, and has dug in its heels on its most controversial choices. At their confirmation hearings, judicial nominees have refused to answer questions about their views on legal issues. And Senate Republicans have rushed through the procedures on controversial nominees.

Mr. Estrada embodies the White House's scorn for the Senate's role. Dubbed the "stealth candidate," he arrived with an extremely conservative reputation but almost no paper trail. He refused to answer questions, and although he had written many memorandums as a lawyer in the Justice Department, the White House refused to release them.

The Senate Democratic leader, Tom Daschle, insists that the Senate be given the information it needs to evaluate Mr. Estrada. He says there cannot be a vote until senators are given access to Mr. Estrada's memorandums and until they get answers to their questions. The White House can call this politics or obstruction. But in fact it is senators doing their jobs.

If a Democratic president had behaved as bad as Mr. Bush on his judicial nominations, Republican pols would be howling the "I" word by now.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Dear Peach...You don't think they try to get their message out to the press! Ask Tom DeLay what it's like getting the mainstream press to cover them. When the DNC sends a press release, inaccurate, no matter - it's printed. There IS a VLWC. Our willing "soldiers" in DC have help from us, radio, FoxNews now...but we have to go to our neighbors with the truth. You will not see the mainstream networks cover our side fairly.

[RayBob]

I think that what the GOP should do is get Estrada dressed in some blue jeans, a white (tank-style) undershirt, put on one of those hairnet thingies...you know, dress him up like a TV-style latino stereotype, have him drive up to the capital in a low-rider with hydraulics bouncing the car up and down, then ask the democrats if he's hispanic enough yet.

[Helen]

Have they made the statement yet: "This is certainly a busy news day!"

[Cosmo]

LOL!
FR needs a jpeg of a strip of ducktape to replace "post removed by moderator".

[Howlin]

We're all in the same boat!

[YaYa123]

Daschle = Slicker than snot.

I hope Rush is right, that the democrats are having a hard time finding senators willing to speak on the senate floor against Estrada.

But more than anything, I hope the Republicans are willing to dig in for this fight. The democrats are not going to back down, they must be beaten. Hatch has been magnificent, really impressed me, and I've made fun of his prissy pink panty style for years. I'm proud of him, hopeful of Frist, but I'm not convinced...so far...that Republicans can get down and dirty enough to do it.

It's fine for us to call republican senators, offer encouragement, kudos, whatever, but they are all locked up. We really need to call the democrat senators in our states and politely chew their asses for not letting this nomination go to the floor for a vote.

[Wphile]

Nice try but it isn't going to work. Estrada had a hearing, they could ask questions then. They didn't. They can follow up with questions, written to him, but they didn't. They don't have any questions for him and they know it. Oh, and as to the holy grail of the democrats, Estrada did say that Roe v. Wade is settled law, period.

Again nice try. Say, aren't you proud that our senator, patty murray, is now being referred to as Senator Stupid?

[Carolinamom]

Orin Hatch gained the Senate floor and KEPT it for hours. He was brilliant refuting every dem question. RE Donahue/Miller, Miller wiped the floor w/Donahue. Honest, I've never been so excited to see such refutations of the liberal slimes.

[usmc_chris]

Unfortunately, I'm a reservist so I can't physically assault Tommy D'Aschole!