Pair get 8 years for serving beer at party

Washington Times ^ | 2-12-03 | Washington Times

[ambrose]

CHARLOTTESVILLE (AP)

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

I think the sentence was too harsh myself, but that wasn't the point of my post.

There is a regular poster calling for the

DEATH OF A JUDGE

and no one is responding to that. Before I posted my first message on this thread, he twice said that the judge needed to be hanged. For what? For passing a sentence the poster thought was too harsh. Capital punishment for using bad, but legal, judgement.

[Tinman]

"This is what the liberal/Marxists want. Soon they will be putting people in jail for exposing teenagers to second-hand smoke. Just wait and see.

We don't have to wait, my friend. We already have people being fined, hundreds of dollars, for violating "smoking bans" in drinking establishments.

Hope all is well with you and yours

Regards

[Under the Radar]

There is a regular poster calling for the DEATH OF A JUDGE

I think that is called hyperbole. Or perhaps he is serious. I have no idea.

I do think that it is disheartening the way that others on this thread expect the police to do their jobs as parents.

[u-89]

Dear Mr. Jihad,

Your screen name says a lot to the world about your mind set and the fact that you know how it is received says even more. The obvious reality that even after 9/11 you still think the name is oh so keen does not indicate a healthy state of mind to rational observers. Your vigorous approval of an 8 year sentence in this case combined with your name would make one almost suspect that you are a leftist plant purposely trying to make conservatives look bad. After years of reading your posts I could almost believe that you are sincere in your utterings but I prefer to believe that you are an agent provocateur or better yet just a parody.

cordially,

[fish70]

When even the conservatives are getting on the nanny government bandwagon, I begin to get concerned.

Conservatives aren't getting on the nanny government bandwagon, Republicans are. They have always wanted as much government control as the Democrats, just social control instead of fiscal.

[Quix]

Actually, I do tend to think the sentences are a bit stiff.

But I didn't think it would kill you to be exposed to some thoughts on the other side.

Actually, I tend to be overly lenient with people--particularly in each specific situation. Philosophically I can sometimes argue a bit stiffer stance.

I'm not sure arguing that because killers etc. get only 8 years others should get less is a socially wise stance.

Interestingly, murderers in OTestament times could flee to cities of refuge and as long as they made it and stayed there and behaved themselves for a length of time, they were left alone.

Your assumptions about me are, to my mind, much more irrational and a much greater stretch and much harsher than my very minor ones about you. Yet you censure me.

Interesting.

I still suspect your chosen screen name says a lot about your personality and psychology as your post I'm responding to illustrates.

[irish_links]

Anyone want to take bets that said judge is up for re-election in November?

[Quix]

8 years is nothing compared to a life snuffed out.

It is a devastation on two parents. And I kind of hate to take two bread winners and imprison them for so long.

But I wonder . . . it SHOULD make their distaste for such things rather intense. Though I wonder if their bitterness and resentments will be worked through by the end of 8 years.

I do think the warning should have been in the community loudly and clearly first that such behavior would result in 8 years.

Anyway--8 years is still a lot shorter than a snuffed out teen life.

And the message to the rest of those teens may well be worth it.
Thanks for your comments. You may have noted I got the usual Qx shredding over my comments.

[Quix]

I doubt he'll be fostered out to those lenient with alcohol.

If you saw as much death, family and social mayhem as most judges see from alcoholism, you might have gone for 16 years.

[MrLeRoy]

8 years is nothing compared to a life snuffed out.

Whose life was snuffed out?

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

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[Quix]

I thought the judge's point was pretty clear.

Folks who served alcohol so soon after another youth's alcohol facilitated death in the community clearly are extremely hard of hearing.

Giving them 8 years to hear the message better was not totally far fetched.

That is, if one is soberingly serious about preventing further such youth being snuffed out.

It's not far fetched to speculate that it was exceedingly possible for more than a few of those youths to DIE ON THE WAY HOME from THAT party.

Mercifully they didn't. But not because the parents were trying to prevent such!

[MrLeRoy]

Whose life was snuffed out?

It's not far fetched to speculate that it was exceedingly possible for more than a few of those youths to DIE ON THE WAY HOME from THAT party.

Mercifully they didn't.

So that's a "Nobody's life." Got it.

[Defiant]

Doesn't it bother you that these poor folks have to spend the remaining days of the world in jail? Since we are in end times, shouldn't they be shown enough mercy to walk free before time ends? After all, how much harm could they cause if the WHOLE WORLD is ending soon, anyway?

Your apocalyptic view of the world is harmless, if deluded. I can see why you chose Quix as a handle, short for Quixotic, as you seem a champion for causes which sane people cannot join. However, I don't understand why you are here, where people deal with worldly matters and issues that might persist for generations. If I believed as you do, I'd retreat into monastacism, as the early Christians did when they believed in Christ's imminent return.

Since you are so interested in the term Defiant, I will tell you that it has to do with my attitude towards the police state that the Clintons and their gang of thugs had towards freedom-loving people in June 1998 when I chose this handle for this site, changing the handle I had been using for a couple years here to avoid identification that would result in visits from the Little Rock Mafia or the Janet Reno DOJ. We had people here who were regularly reporting such visits, IRS audits, etc. I was not going to acquiesce in the takeover of the government by this soft type of authoritarianism, and defiantly posted about Clinton's corruption and evil. I see the Clintons gained a convert to their way of thinking during their 8 year reign.

Interestingly, murderers in OTestament times could flee to cities of refuge and as long as they made it and stayed there and behaved themselves for a length of time, they were left alone.

Interestingly, murderers in Old Testament times might be stoned. Your point?

Your assumptions about me are, to my mind, much more irrational and a much greater stretch and much harsher than my very minor ones about you. Yet you censure me.

I wrote a one-line statement that the sentence was unjust, and you then suggested that I was drunk when I wrote it, and started asking about my screen name. Yes, I censure you for that, even while addressing the substance of your comments. You were intemperate.

[LibertyGirl77]

I live in Virginia and I think this sentence is obscene. It's totally inappropriate for a judge to give a harsher punishment because the crime reminded him of another case. We pay these people to be objective.

[LibertyGirl77]

Thirty days plus 200 hours community service, according to the local newspaper.

[Future Snake Eater]

'For the children'... 'if it saves one life'... get back to the village, Hillary.

Exactly what I was thinking. Well said.

[Station 51]

Serving beer to minors! There may have even been kids there that smoked cigarettes! One or two kids may have smoked a joint! Eight Years! What a disgrace. If we had a real law & order society these people would have been sentenced to death! Where is the justice?

[LibertyGirl77]

So don't drive. You're not required to. You CHOOSE to drive. By driving on public roads, you place your life in he hands of the drivers around you. You accept the risk that they may be impaired, not paying attention, or just plain crappy drivers. Most of us are willing to accept the risk, small as it is. If you're not, then take the subway.

[Station 51]

Why not sentence them to death?