Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bin Laden Tape: Text
BBC News ^ | 3/12/03 | BBC Monitoring

Posted on 02/11/2003 8:10:16 PM PST by Angelus Errare

Bin Laden tape: Text

The following is the full text of an audio message purported to be by al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden, broadcast on Arab television station al-Jazeera on 11 February. In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate.

A message to our Muslim brothers in Iraq, may God's peace, mercy, and blessings be upon you.

O you who believe fear Allah, by doing all that He has ordered and by abstaining from all that He has forbidden as He should be feared.

Obey Him, be thankful to Him, and remember Him always, and die not except in a state of Islam [as Muslims] with complete submission to Allah.

We are following up with great interest and extreme concern the crusaders' preparations for war to occupy a former capital of Islam, loot Muslims' wealth, and install an agent government, which would be a satellite for its masters in Washington and Tel Aviv, just like all the other treasonous and agent Arab governments.

This would be in preparation for establishing the Greater Israel.

Allah is sufficient for us and He is the best disposer of affairs.

'Unjust war'

Amid this unjust war, the war of infidels and debauchees led by America along with its allies and agents, we would like to stress a number of important values:

First, showing good intentions. This means fighting should be for the sake of the one God.

It should not be for championing ethnic groups, or for championing the non-Islamic regimes in all Arab countries, including Iraq.

God Almighty says: "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil."

So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.

Second, we remind that victory comes only from God and all we have to do is prepare and motivate for jihad.

God Almighty says: "Oh ye who believe! If ye will help the cause of Allah, He will help you and plant your feet firmly."

We must rush to seek God Almighty's forgiveness from sins, particularly the grave sins.

Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him, said: "Avoid the seven grave sins; polytheism, sorcery, killing, unless permitted by God, usury, taking the money of orphans, fleeing from combat, and slandering innocent faithful women."

Also, all grave sins, such as consuming alcohol, committing adultery, disobeying parents, and committing perjury. We must obey God in general, and should in particular mention the name of God more before combat.

'Media machine'

Abu-al-Darda, may God be pleased with him, said: "Perform a good deed before an attack, because you are fighting with your deeds."

Third, we realized from our defence and fighting against the American enemy that, in combat, they mainly depend on psychological warfare.

This is in light of the huge media machine they have.

They also depend on massive air strikes so as to conceal their most prominent point of weakness, which is the fear, cowardliness, and the absence of combat spirit among US soldiers.

Those soldiers are completely convinced of the injustice and lying of their government.

They also lack a fair cause to defend. They only fight for capitalists, usury takers, and the merchants of arms and oil, including the gang of crime at the White House.

This is in addition to crusader and personal grudges by Bush the father.

Trench warfare

We also realized that one of the most effective and available methods of rendering the air force of the crusader enemy ineffective is by setting up roofed and disguised trenches in large numbers.

I had referred to that in a previous statement during the Tora Bora battle last year.

In that great battle, faith triumphed over all the materialistic forces of the people of evil, for principles were adhered to, thanks to God Almighty.

I will narrate to you part of that great battle, to show how cowardly they are on the one hand, and how effective trenches are in exhausting them on the other.

We were about 300 mujahideen [Islamic militants].We dug 100 trenches that were spread in an area that does not exceed one square mile, one trench for every three brothers, so as to avoid the huge human losses resulting from the bombardment.

Since the first hour of the US campaign on 20 Rajab 1422, corresponding to 7 October 2001, our centres were exposed to a concentrated bombardment.

And this bombardment continued until mid-Ramadan.

On 17 Ramadan, a very fierce bombardment began, particularly after the US command was certain that some of al-Qaeda leaders were still in Tora Bora, including the humble servant to God [referring to himself] and the brother mujahid Dr Ayman al-Zawahiri.

The bombardment was round-the-clock and the warplanes continued to fly over us day and night.

War in Afghanistan

The US Pentagon, together with its allies, worked full time on blowing up and destroying this small spot, as well as on removing it entirely.

Planes poured their lava on us, particularly after accomplishing their main missions in Afghanistan.

The US forces attacked us with smart bombs, bombs that weigh thousands of pounds, cluster bombs, and bunker busters.

Bombers, like the B-52, used to fly over head for more than two hours and drop between 20 to 30 bombs at a time.

The modified C-130 aircraft kept carpet-bombing us at night, using modern types of bombs.

The US forces dared not break into our positions, despite the unprecedented massive bombing and terrible propaganda targeting this completely besieged small area.

This is in addition to the forces of hypocrites, whom they prodded to fight us for 15 days non-stop.

Every time the latter attacked us, we forced them out of our area carrying their dead and wounded.

'Alliance of evil'

Is there any clearer evidence of their cowardice, fear, and lies regarding their legends about their alleged power.

To sum it up, the battle resulted in the complete failure of the international alliance of evil, with all its forces, [to overcome] a small number of mujahideen - 300 mujahideen hunkered down in trenches spread over an area of one square mile under a temperature of -10 degrees Celsius.

The battle resulted in the injury of 6% of personnel - we hope God will accept them as martyrs - and the damage of two percent of the trenches, praise be to God.

If all the world forces of evil could not achieve their goals on a one square mile of area against a small number of mujahideen with very limited capabilities, how can these evil forces triumph over the Muslim world?

This is impossible, God willing, if people adhere to their religion and insist on jihad for its sake.

Iraqi 'brothers'

O mujahideen brothers in Iraq, do not be afraid of what the United States is propagating in terms of their lies about their power and their smart, laser-guided missiles.

The smart bombs will have no effect worth mentioning in the hills and in the trenches, on plains, and in forests.

They must have apparent targets. The well-camouflaged trenches and targets will not be reached by either the smart or the stupid missiles.

There will only be haphazard strikes that dissipate the enemy ammunition and waste its money. Dig many trenches.

The [early Muslim caliph] Umar, may God be pleased with him, stated: "Take the ground as a shield because this will ensure the exhaustion of all the stored enemy missiles within months."

Their daily production is too little and can be dealt with, God willing.

We also recommend luring the enemy forces into a protracted, close, and exhausting fight, using the camouflaged defensive positions in plains, farms, mountains, and cities.

The enemy fears city and street wars most, a war in which the enemy expects grave human losses.

Martyrdom operations

We stress the importance of the martyrdom operations against the enemy - operations that inflicted harm on the United States and Israel that have been unprecedented in their history, thanks to Almighty God.

We also point out that whoever supported the United States, including the hypocrites of Iraq or the rulers of Arab countries, those who approved their actions and followed them in this crusade war by fighting with them or providing bases and administrative support, or any form of support, even by words, to kill the Muslims in Iraq, should know that they are apostates and outside the community of Muslims.

It is permissible to spill their blood and take their property.

God says: "O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other."

And he amongst you that turns to them [for friendship] is of them.

Verily, Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Mobilizing the 'Islamic nation'

We also stress to honest Muslims that they should move, incite, and mobilize the [Islamic] nation, amid such grave events and hot atmosphere so as to liberate themselves from those unjust and renegade ruling regimes, which are enslaved by the United States.

They should also do so to establish the rule of God on earth.

The most qualified regions for liberation are Jordan, Morocco, Nigeria, Pakistan, the land of the two holy mosques [Saudi Arabia], and Yemen.

Needless to say, this crusade war is primarily targeted against the people of Islam.

Regardless of the removal or the survival of the socialist party or Saddam, Muslims in general and the Iraqis in particular must brace themselves for jihad against this unjust campaign and acquire ammunition and weapons.

This is a prescribed duty. God says: "[And let them pray with thee] taking all precautions and bearing arms: the unbelievers wish if ye were negligent of your arms and your baggage, to assault you in a single rush."

Fighting in support of the non-Islamic banners is forbidden.

Muslims' doctrine and banner should be clear in fighting for the sake of God. He who fights to raise the word of God will fight for God's sake.

Under these circumstances, there will be no harm if the interests of Muslims converge with the interests of the socialists in the fight against the crusaders, despite our belief in the infidelity of socialists.

The jurisdiction of the socialists and those rulers has fallen a long time ago.

Socialists are infidels wherever they are, whether they are in Baghdad or Aden.

'High morale'

The fighting, which is waging and which will be waged these days, is very much like the fighting of Muslims against the Byzantine in the past.

And the convergence of interests is not detrimental. The Muslims' fighting against the Byzantine converged with the interests of the Persians.

And this was not detrimental to the companions of the prophet.

Before concluding, we reiterate the importance of high morale and caution against false rumours, defeatism, uncertainty, and discouragement.

The prophet said: "Bring good omens and do not discourage people."

He also said: "The voice of Abu-Talhah [one of the prophet's companions] in the army is better than 100 men."

During the Al-Yarmuk Battle, a man told Khalid bin-al-Walid [an Islamic commander]: "The Byzantine soldiers are too many and the Muslims are few."

So, Khalid told him: "Shame on you. Armies do not triumph with large numbers but are defeated if the spirit of defeatism prevails."

Keep this saying before your eyes: "It is not fitting for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land."

"Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks."

Your wish to the crusaders should be as came in this verse of poetry: "The only language between you and us is the sword that will strike your necks."

In the end, I advise myself and you to fear God covertly and openly and to be patient in the jihad.

Victory will be achieved with patience. I also advise myself and you to say more prayers.

O ye who believe! When ye meet a force, be firm, and call Allah in remembrance much (and often); That ye may prosper.

God, who sent the book unto the prophet, who drives the clouds, and who defeated the enemy parties, defeat them and make us victorious over them.

Our Lord! Give us good in this world and good in the Hereafter and save us from the torment of the Fire! [Koranic verse].

May God's peace and blessings be upon Prophet Muhammad and his household.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; baathism; binladen; iraq; jihad; saddamhussein; terrorism; torabora; wahhabism
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-126 next last
To: daviddennis
This makes me think they have a much smaller base of truly competent people than originally thought.

If Richard Reid was the most competent al-Qaida operative available for blowing up a transatlantic flight, then that's probably true.

They are undoubtedly evil, and certainly committed, but they aren't the finest specimens in the gene pool.

101 posted on 02/12/2003 10:46:44 AM PST by Dog Gone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 98 | View Replies]

To: All
Here's another way of looking at Islam's connection with Saddam; even though Saddam never was into Islam, HE IS AN ARAB. Even though arabs hate each other, they hate the Jews and Israel and America even more, and this is the common bond that ties them together. The entire arab world's mutual goal that they all have in common is the destruction of Israel since it's inception in 1948. The arabs will not betray each other or Saddam in their unified goal to destroy Israel, (and America), because we support Israel. The bottom line, here, for the arabs is about destoying Israel. This is what it's all about.
102 posted on 02/12/2003 11:09:36 AM PST by travelnurse
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies]

To: All
"We must rush to seek God Almighty's forgiveness from sins, particularly the grave sins"



This quote from the so called bin Laden tape is a joke. Islam doesn't even believe in sin, nor is the word "sin" referred to in the Koran, to the best of my knowledge.
103 posted on 02/12/2003 11:18:42 AM PST by travelnurse
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: All
Why do people believe that this is Bin Laden?? I would like to see some kind of proof that it really is him. I don't understand how a little audio tape can be so believed by the administration of the United States of America. No talk show host I've heard since yesterday believes he is still alive, including Rush Limbaugh.

Aren't we going to look like morons for saying, "See the Al Quaeda connection???" when later it is proved that he was DEAD at the time?? This worries me.

104 posted on 02/12/2003 11:20:18 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: Dog Gone
Don't forget the limousine driver who ineptly attacked the El Al terminal on the 4th of July. And remember there was radio chatter and warnings immediately before that, too.

I think they finally figured out it was terrorism after weeks of absurd-sounding denials.

One of the main reasons I think bin Laden died in Afgahnistan is that I think he's smart enough to think up good attack plans. After they lost him and their other top people, their effectiveness appears to have gone straight down the toilet. I find this very strange considering all the talk about it being a decentralized organization that can survive anything.

It may be able to survive anything, but can the remaining parts still function? It looks like the answer is "barely".

This is, of course, no reason to drop ceaseless vigilance, because things can always slip through the cracks. But I'm pleased to report that we shouldn't use this as a reason to live in paranoid fear, either.

D
105 posted on 02/12/2003 11:22:25 AM PST by daviddennis (Visit amazing.com for protest accounts, video & more!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 101 | View Replies]

To: cyncooper
No, I have not missed these revelations. The problem is that the case being made is far from iron clad. Consider the following from a defense expert at the Cato Institute:

"The alleged linkages to al Qaeda involve connecting Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi to the Ansar al-Islam terrorist group operating in northeastern Iraq. But this is Kurdish-controlled territory protected by U.S.-led enforcement of the no-fly zone and collaboration between Ansar al-Islam and the Iraqi regime is not proven. And no case has been made that Iraq supported al Qaeda in the planning, financing, or operation of the September 11 attacks. Thus, the case against Iraq remains essentially unchanged. The only thing different is the messenger."
106 posted on 02/12/2003 11:59:56 AM PST by rob777
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: Angelus Errare
bttt
107 posted on 02/12/2003 12:11:52 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Yaelle
Aren't we going to look like morons for saying, "See the Al Quaeda connection???" when later it is proved that he was DEAD at the time?? This worries me.

I'll tell you what worries me-----people using the term Al Qaeda to be synonomous with bin Laden.

Surely you are not asserting that bin Laden is dead, therefore al Qaeda is no longer a threat?

108 posted on 02/12/2003 12:21:02 PM PST by cyncooper (God be with President Bush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

Comment #109 Removed by Moderator

To: cyncooper
You mean this info? From my files....

Check out the following lawsuit on Find Law

Ashton, et al. v. al Qaeda, et al.: Complaint (PDF) Lawsuit claiming a 9/11 link between Iraq and al Qaeda. Sept. 3, 2002

The file is in slow loading .pdf format, but it is an interesting read. Some excerpts:

39. Upon information and belief, there have been numerous meetings between IRAQI Intelligence agents and high-ranking AL QAEDA terrorists to plan terror attacks. Once such meeting occurred in 1992, when ZAWAHIRI (EGYPTIAN ISLAMIC JIHAD leader and AL QAEDA officer) met with IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agents in Baghdad, IRAQ over several days. An IRAQI serving with the TALIBAN who fled Afghanistan in the fall of 2001, was captured in Kurdistan and has corroborated this meeting and confirmed that IRAQI contacts with AL QAEDA began in 1992.

During the early 1990s, Sudan’s Sheikh Hassan al-Tourabi of the Islamic National Front arranged meetings between BIN-LADEN and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials. BIN LADEN met with FARUQ AL-HIJAZI, an IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agent in the Sudan who would later head IRAQI INTELLIGENCE for SADDAM HUSSEIN. BIN LADEN again met with IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officers in 1994 and 1995 in the Sudan. At these meetings, BIN-LADEN and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE secret service director FARUQ AL-HIJAZI agreed to work together on terrorist projects directed against the U.S.

55. From 1996 until 2001, BIN LADEN with the financial and logistical support of OMAR and others in the TALIBAN and IRAQ and IRAQI INTELLIGENCE, created, supplied and operated at least five training camps in order to create an “Islamic Foreign Legion” capable of attacking their enemies throughout the world. These camps trained men from 15 nations in guerrilla warfare, terrorist activities, rocket warfare, demolition and bombing, including the use of mines, grenades, TNT, nitroglycerine and plastic explosives. Classes were also given in “how to kill a policeman” and “traps, murder and terrorist moves.”

57. In February 1997, BIN LADEN publicly expressed his support for IRAQ in its conflict with the United States stating:

“The hearts of the Muslims are filled with hatred towards the United States of America and the American president for American conduct towards IRAQ.”
59. IRAQ upon information and belief, agreed to supply arms to AL QAEDA and provide AL QAEDA with access to and training in the use of chemical and biological weapons and agreed to instruct AL QAEDA terror trainers at its Salman Pak camp in Baghdad that contained a Boeing 707 used to practice hijacking. IRAQ also agreed to supply AL QAEDA terrorists with new identities and passports from Yemen and the United Arab Emirates.

60. AL QAEDA agreed to provide protection from political opponents to IRAQ and SADDAM HUSSEIN, and to commit assassinations and other acts of violence to create instability in regions of IRAQ, particularly Kurdistan, to assist the regime of SADDAM HUSSEIN. AL QAEDA further agreed to provide trained terrorists, assassins and martyrs to carry out terror attacks in concert with IRAQ against their common enemies, including the United States.

64. Between April 25 and May 1, 1998, two of BIN LADEN’s senior military commanders, MUHAMMAD ABU-ISLAM and ABDULLAH QASSIM, visited Baghdad for discussions with SADDAM HUSSEIN’s son -- QUSAY HUSSEIN -- the “czar” of IRAQI INTELLIGENCE.

65. QUSAY HUSSEIN’s participation in those meetings highlights the importance of the talks in both symbolic and practical terms. Upon information and belief, as a direct result of these meetings, IRAQ again made commitments to provide training, intelligence, clandestine Saudi border crossings, financial support and weapons and explosives to AL QAEDA.

66. IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials met with BIN LADEN in Afghanistan several more times. A second group of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives from Saudi Arabia were then trained by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE in IRAQ to smuggle weapons and explosives into Saudi Arabia and other countries, which they later accomplished in an effort to carry out future terrorist acts of violence. A third group of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives received a month of sophisticated guerrilla operations training from IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials later in the Summer of 1998.

67. Despite philosophical and religious differences with SADDAM HUSSEIN, BIN LADEN continually sought to strengthen and reinforce the support he and AL QAEDA received from IRAQ. In mid-July 1998, BIN LADEN sent Dr. AYMAN AL-ZAWAHIRI, the Egyptian co-founder of AL QAEDA, to IRAQ to meet with senior Iraqi officials, including Iraqi vice president TAHA YASSIN RAMADAN. Upon information and belief, the purpose of this meeting was to discuss and plan a joint strategy for a terrorist campaign against the United States.

69. During the July 1998 visit ZAWAHIRI toured an IRAQI military base and nuclear and chemical weapons facility near al-Fallujah in IRAQ and upon information and belief, observed training by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials of AL QAEDA operatives at the al-Nasiriyah military and chemical weapons facility in IRAQ.

79. Following the December 1998 air strikes on IRAQ, SADDAM HUSSEIN dispatched FARUQ AL-HIJAZI to Kandahar, Afghanistan in order to meet with BIN LADEN and plot their revenge.

81. To demonstrate IRAQ’s commitment to BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA, HIJAZI presented BIN LADEN with a pack of blank, official Yemeni passports, supplied to IRAQI INTELLIGENCE from their Yemeni contacts. HIJAZI’s visit to Kandahar was followed by a contingent of IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials who provided additional training and instruction to BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives in Afghanistan. These Iraqi officials included members of “Unit 999,” a group of elite IRAQI INTELLIGENCE officials who provided advanced sabotage and infiltration training and instruction to AL QAEDA operatives.

82. At that meeting, upon information and belief, BIN LADEN, AL QAEDA and IRAQ agreed to join efforts in a detailed, coordinated plan for a protracted terrorist war against the United States.

84. IRAQ maintains an advanced chemical and biological weapons program and is one of only three countries in the world producing a highly developed weaponized anthrax. Some time during or after 1998, IRAQ agreed to help BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA develop a laboratory in Afghanistan designed to produce anthrax.

85. In addition to the al-Nasiriyah and Salman Pak training camps, by January 1999, BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA operatives were being trained by IRAQI INTELLIGENCE and military officers at other training camps on the outskirts of Baghdad.

86. In January 1999, IRAQ began reorganizing and mobilizing IRAQI INTELLIGENCE front operations throughout Europe in support of BIN LADEN and AL QAEDA. HAQI ISMAIL, believed to be a member of the IRAQ’S MUKHABARAT Secret Service, left IRAQ to train in an Afghanistan AL QAEDA camp. ISMAIL was believed to be a liason between IRAQ, the TALIBAN and AL QAEDA and was rewarded with a position in the TALIBAN Foreign Ministry.

103. On July 21, approximately six weeks before the September 11 th attacks, IRAQI columnist Mulhalhal reported that BIN LADEN was making plans to “demolish the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.”

104. Mulhalhal’s July 21 article further informed that BIN LADEN would strike America “on the arm that is already hurting.” Upon information and belief, this references a second IRAQI sponsored attack on the World Trade Center. This interpretation is further bolstered by another reference to New York as “[BIN LADEN] will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra everytime he hears his songs.” (e.g., “New York, New York”) identifying New York, New York as a target.

105. Mulhalhal further indicated, “The wings of a dove and the bullet are all but one and the same in the heart of a believer.” (Emphasis supplied) This appears to be a reference to the use of commercial aircraft as a weapon. The information was reported in an IRAQI newspaper who’s editor-in-chief serves as secretary to UDAY HUSSEIN’S Iraqi Syndicate of Journalists. The article expressed IRAQI admiration and support for BIN LADEN’s plans and its appearance in the newspaper would clearly have to be endorsed by SADDAM HUSSEIN himself.

106. All IRAQI news media is strictly controlled and censored by the government of SADDAM HUSSEIN and is under the direct oversight of UDAY HUSSEIN. Various members of IRAQI intelligence work at and control the content of each and every newspaper published inside IRAQ.

107. The information contained in Mulhalhal’s published statements were known prior to the events of September 11 th , and that Mulhalhal has ties to IRAQI intelligence, demonstrates foreknowledge of the planned attacks by BIN LADEN and indicates support by IRAQI co-conspirators.

110. According to U.S. and foreign intelligence officials, in the spring of 2000, IRAQI INTELLIGENCE agents met with September 11 th pilot hijackers ZAID SAMIR JARRAH and MARWAN AL-SHEHHI in Dubai, UAE in order to advance the hijacking of U.S. aircraft to commit terrorist acts. Not long after the meeting, AL-SHEHHI entered the United States on May 29 and JARRAH entered on June 27, to begin preparations for attacks.

133. Instruction documents on an artillery weapon known as the “Super Gun” were found in AL QAEDA camps when they were captured by U.S. forces in the winter of 2001-2002. IRAQ is the only state known to have purchased and assembled the super gun, a weapon so large it must be constructed in segments. It has a range of several hundred miles.

Also...check out the following links:

Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection, As Reported by Janes

Rice: Iraq Providing Shelter, Chemical Weapons Help to Al Qaeda

Ansar Al-Isam: Iraq’s Al-Qaeda Connection

Salman Pak: Iraq's Smoking Gun Link to 9-11?

PBS - Info on Salman Pak

Saddam killed Abu Nidal over al-Qa'eda row

New evidence links Saddam, bin Laden

Arafat-Saddam-Bin Laden Links Surface

Saddam and Osama: A Long History

Saddam 'sends troops to help bin Laden men'

Iraqi Funds, Training Fuel Islamic Terror Group

Alert by Saddam points to Iraq - 23 Sep 2001 Article

Mounting Evidence of Iraqi Link to Terror Attacks

Iraqi defector tells of terrorist training camp

Will Iraq be the Next Target?

Al Qaeda linked to Saddam


110 posted on 02/12/2003 12:48:30 PM PST by ravingnutter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: rob777
The problem is that the case being made is far from iron clad.

Ummmmm....you might want to check the info in post #110...and the following thread as well...

[Philippine] Gov’t asks Iraqi envoy with Abu links to leave

Things are developing quickly, and I guarantee you that Bush has not played all of his cards yet, at least according to my research on the subject.

111 posted on 02/12/2003 12:55:19 PM PST by ravingnutter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: ravingnutter
Yes, ravingnutter, I had only heard a portion of what you have posted, but I was referring to that type of previous information.

Amazing how some acted as if yesterday's tape was the first and only hint at a link between these entities and then start wringing their hands that it is "not enough".

112 posted on 02/12/2003 12:58:22 PM PST by cyncooper (God be with President Bush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

To: rob777
As I indicated, there is much more than what you have posted.
113 posted on 02/12/2003 12:59:16 PM PST by cyncooper (God be with President Bush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: cyncooper
Amazing how some acted as if yesterday's tape was the first and only hint at a link between these entities and then start wringing their hands that it is "not enough".

I know...I have been posting that info for weeks and the "Iraq Connection" file just keeps getting longer, but I still have not convinced all of the naysayers on here...it is frustrating! Have you seen the following thread yet?

[Philippine]Gov’t asks Iraqi envoy with Abu links to leave

Just one more Saddam/Al Queda link to add to my rapidly growing list...

114 posted on 02/12/2003 1:14:03 PM PST by ravingnutter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | View Replies]

To: ravingnutter
Thank you for the link. I had not seen it.

Indeed...
115 posted on 02/12/2003 1:19:38 PM PST by cyncooper (God be with President Bush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | View Replies]

To: Catholicguy
The regime change will be no harder to accomplish than in occupied Japan. Hard, but it must be done. Already the Saudis are initiating there own reforms pre-emptively.


116 posted on 02/12/2003 1:38:32 PM PST by ffusco (sempre ragione)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: amom
Thanks for the heads up!
117 posted on 02/12/2003 2:49:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

Comment #118 Removed by Moderator

To: Yaelle
The most probable hypothesis, IMO, is that the tape was cobbled up by one of bin Laden's lieutenants, who now runs a remnant of al-Qaeda. Thus, the positions expressed in the tape reflect al-Qaeda goals and alliances (though possibly distorted a bit by the phrasing limitations imposed by the audio cut-n-paste process).
119 posted on 02/12/2003 6:45:16 PM PST by steve-b
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 104 | View Replies]

To: undisclosedlocation
which I found to be either a clean-up or cover-up, no mention was made as to why!

Thanks for the answer. So they actually put it in print.

I'll tell you why without hesitation.

First, it was NOT a coverup. Every media outlet has their own translators going over the original tape and the ONLY place to report in this fashion was MSNBC. I guarantee it was a rush to paint the Bush administration and Colin Powell as at best inept and at worst deceptive.

In fact, as of this morning Jeannie Ohm, their WH reporterette, said when Powell spoke to the Senate yesterday he thought the tape had already aired! How ridiculous an assertion is that??? Anybody with half a brain and who speaks English heard him say a tape that would be aired later during the day.

We are witnessing certain members of the media being more than irresponsible in their reporting. It is is disgusting and outrageous.

120 posted on 02/12/2003 7:07:25 PM PST by cyncooper (God be with President Bush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 118 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-126 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson