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Chivalry Linked to Sexist Views of Women
Yahoo! ^ | 2/11/2003 | Jacqueline Stenson

Posted on 02/11/2003 9:27:41 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves

LOS ANGELES (Reuters Health) - Chivalry isn't all it's cracked up to be, suggests new research showing that men who hold doors for women also tend to hold sexist views about them.

"On the surface, you would say these are really polite gentlemen," said study author William Altermatt, an assistant professor of psychology at the University of Michigan in Flint.

But women may not find their underlying beliefs about the opposite sex very considerate, he said.

At a recent meeting of the Society for Personality and Social Psychology, Altermatt reported research showing that men who supported chivalry also generally believed that women are not as competent and powerful as men and that their place is in the home.

In one study, 201 college students (66% male) completed questionnaires about their beliefs on chivalry and attitudes toward women.

Responses revealed a clear association between chivalry and sexist beliefs, a link that is based on stereotypes, Altermatt and colleagues found.

The belief that women are less competent and powerful than men explained both chivalry --that women must be protected and provided for by men--and sexist beliefs that women are not qualified for high-power positions, the researchers concluded.

In a second study, they sought more information about chivalry and female stereotypes from an additional 185 college students (62% male). Participants evaluated three stereotypical subgroups of women and also completed a questionnaire about their views on chivalry.

The participants reporting high support for chivalry gave more favorable ratings to homemakers and less favorable ratings to career women and sexually permissive women than the low-chivalry participants did.

The researchers said these findings extend those of the first study by suggesting that chivalrous men not only endorse the stereotype that women are less competent and powerful than men but also disapprove of women who violate this stereotype--those who are high in competence and power or low in virtue.

While women shared some of the same views as men, there were differences. "Men were more favorable to chivalry than women and they also had more stereotypes of women," Altermatt said.

He describes chivalry as a type of "benevolent sexism." While chivalry may seem nice, he explained, the basis for it nonetheless is that women are in need of help by men.

"It makes men look great, but it's also got this baggage," Altermatt said. "It doesn't always make sense."


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To: pram
They must have abortions, and the result is millions of bastard children.

Um.....huh? Abortions don't result in children, last I checked.

41 posted on 02/11/2003 10:54:33 AM PST by Pahuanui (When a foolish man hears about the Tao, he laughs out loud)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I guess the only "competent" women are career women. I think more highly of women that choose to raise their children ( that is, continuing civilization, which desperately needs it) than those that chose to push papers in a tall building.
42 posted on 02/11/2003 11:00:40 AM PST by stands2reason (This is not a tag line.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I open the car door (and close it) for my wife, I have four sons- 3 of whom know that they should ALWAYS hold the door for a chick (er- I mean female), give up their seat for adults of any age, and not wear their hat at the table.

The fourth one will learn when he is able to talk.
43 posted on 02/11/2003 11:05:42 AM PST by ThinkingMan (Maybe someday I can ride in one of those black helicopters!)
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To: pram
they should be lesbians, and they must hate men. They must have abortions, and the result is millions of bastard children.

LOL! I trust that this is an intentional parody of their logically incoherent sputterings.

44 posted on 02/11/2003 11:06:51 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Sir Gawain
another reason to hate it up north.

My job took me around the country, and I decided quite naturally to retire to the South. For the reason you mention.

45 posted on 02/11/2003 11:08:17 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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To: ThinkingMan
... I have four sons- 3 of whom know that they should ALWAYS hold the door for a chick (er- I mean female)...

Yeah, I always open doors for the babes.

 

... not wear their hat at the table.

When I forgot to remove my hat at the table, my Dad would ask me if I were Jewish.

46 posted on 02/11/2003 11:20:00 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ; -)
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To: stands2reason
I think more highly of women that choose to raise their children

Why, that's mighty chivalrous of you. Isn't nice to know that (in the eyes of some academics), I just insulted you? Chivalry = sexism, so labeling someone as chivalrous must be something like Hate Speech. Oh, it's a strange, strange world.

47 posted on 02/11/2003 11:22:37 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: SoDak
The fact that there was public money lying around to fund a study like this is depressing.

No kidding. How many crates of 5.56mm NATO Ball could have been purchased with that money? That would be a helluvalot better way to spend the taxpayers bucks than this "study".

48 posted on 02/11/2003 11:23:37 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Me, I hold the doors anyhow, because I durn well feel like it. The women it pleases are worth pleasing, the women it pisses off are worth pissing off. The opinions of idiots such as our psychologist friend I don't care about, because they're not worth caring about.
49 posted on 02/11/2003 11:28:27 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Middle Man
Being a parent,

Watch your keyboard there, son. You're infected with the same feminazi drivel as the cartoons!

You ain't no generic, androgynous, nondescript "parent". You're a Father, an indispensable part of a complete family. Don't ever forget it.

(Of course, if despite your FRname, your'e female, then you're a Mother. Same deal.)

50 posted on 02/11/2003 11:30:25 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Jeff Chandler
bump
51 posted on 02/11/2003 11:31:34 AM PST by Middle Man
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"The participants reporting high support for chivalry gave more favorable ratings to homemakers and less favorable ratings to career women and sexually permissive women than the low-chivalry participants did.

The researchers said these findings extend those of the first study by suggesting that chivalrous men not only endorse the stereotype that women are less competent and powerful than men but also disapprove of women who violate this stereotype--those who are high in competence and power or low in virtue."

Is it me or is there a disconnect between those paragraphs. How does he get from "favoring" homemakers to "women are less competent"? This guy makes quite a leap.
Oh, and I'm a sexist. I much rather spend my time in the company of a mature, confidant, capable, warm, loving woman than this guy, or most guys for that matter.

52 posted on 02/11/2003 11:31:37 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Mr. Jeeves
If a woman wants to be treated like a man. Fine! But don't expect me to be gentlemanly when you compete against me. I will treat you just as I would a man, and kick your ass.
53 posted on 02/11/2003 11:37:43 AM PST by CyberSpartacus
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To: A Navy Vet
I much rather spend my time in the company of a mature, confidant, capable, warm, loving woman...

Too late, buddy. She's already married to me.

54 posted on 02/11/2003 11:47:27 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ( ; -)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Well, this woman likes it when men behave like gentlemen.
55 posted on 02/11/2003 11:51:11 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: Billthedrill
"The women it pleases are worth pleasing, the women it pisses off are worth pissing off."

LOL Excellent point.

56 posted on 02/11/2003 11:52:52 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The participants reporting high support for chivalry gave more favorable ratings to homemakers and less favorable ratings to ... sexually permissive women than the low-chivalry participants did.

And this is bad why??

Laughable "research" anyhow. Long live chivalry!
57 posted on 02/11/2003 11:52:56 AM PST by k2blader
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To: Sir Gawain
What do you tell a man with no balls?

Nothing, you already told him twice!

58 posted on 02/11/2003 11:54:00 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"Sexist Republican Pig! How dare you hold that door for me!!!"

I actually had something similar said to me when I did so for a lady in Washington DC. I was surprised by it, to say the least. Being British and thus unaware of this rather blunt end of feminism didn't help either.

Regards, Ivan

59 posted on 02/11/2003 11:55:30 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mr. Jeeves
To the gentlemen responding to this article: Chivalry is always welcome. It reminds us of what real men should be.

THANK YOU! From a lady who appreciates being treated as one.
60 posted on 02/11/2003 11:56:11 AM PST by Desdemona
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