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1 posted on 02/11/2003 8:57:29 AM PST by tictoc
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To: tictoc; aculeus; general_re; Poohbah
From 1979 to 1991 he taught dogmatics at the Catholic-Theological Department of Paderborn University. Then his teaching license was revoked by the Church.

Glad they threw the bum out.

2 posted on 02/11/2003 9:03:39 AM PST by dighton
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Hey Freud (Fraud?) loving krauts: STFU and get real!

I took a little phsychology in college, and you know what? Besides the fact that psychoanalysis is mostly a bogus diagnostic technique, it requires some interactive participation with the diagnosed person. Did this moron actually talk with our president about all of this? (Don't think so...)

This hit piece is just plain wrong on so many levels, it is a total sack of used food.
3 posted on 02/11/2003 9:08:01 AM PST by Frank_Discussion
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"Then his teaching license was revoked by the Church. A year later he was suspended as a priest."

Sounds like a not very reliable sort, wot!
4 posted on 02/11/2003 9:08:26 AM PST by Bahbah (Pray for our Troops)
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Eugen Drewermann Eugen Drewermann, 63, is Germany's most widely read and most controversial theologian. From 1979 to 1991 he taught dogmatics at the Catholic-Theological Department of Paderborn University. Then his teaching license was revoked by the Church. A year later he was suspended as a priest. Drewermann, who also studied psychoanalysis, has published more than 70 books and works as psychonalyst in private practice.

...Then the Radical Priest came to get me released,
and we were all on the cover of Newsweek Der Spiegel.

"Studied Psychanalysis."

I have also studied psychoanalysis, as well as homosexuality, French cooking, unarmed combat, the female orgasm, driving cars manufactured in Yogoslavia and taxidermy.

I have the good sense to not practice any of them. I suggest the Reverend Mr. Drewermann do the same.

5 posted on 02/11/2003 9:11:12 AM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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DER SPIEGEL is Germany's leading news magazine. Now let's see how the readers of SPIEGEL ONLINE are responding to the associated poll.

...

  VOTE-RESULTS
  Current as of 11 February 2003 5:58 PM

The Drewermann analysis
What is your opinion of the analysis by theologian and psychoanalyst Eugen Drewermann of the Iraq conflict?

Profound and correct.   5317 60.62%
Generally interesting, but a little one-sided.   2319 26.44%
Rather superficial, just a rehash of what is already known.   414 4.72%
Entirely false and dangerous.   462 5.27%
Can't say, the problem is too complex.   259 2.95%
 Total sample: 8771  


6 posted on 02/11/2003 9:20:02 AM PST by tictoc (Michael81Dus for chancellor)
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Isn't it a bit irrelevent to have a representative of a sick society attempt psychoanalysis on anyone?
7 posted on 02/11/2003 9:20:35 AM PST by My2Cents ("...The bombing begins in 5 minutes.")
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Maybe when Bush is done in Iraq, he may want a do over of WWII. I don't think we whacked the Krauts enough.
10 posted on 02/11/2003 9:28:56 AM PST by SCHROLL
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The myths of Persian dualism

Any time they make references to "Persian dualism" or "Manichaeism" they are mocking the whole notion of good and evil.

And it misses the point. The Gnostic conception was that good and evil each required the existence of the other. That is not our position at all. Our position is that evil must be opposed, and destroyed. You do not appease it, and you do not seek common cause with it.

And you don't waste time with empty-cups that do not recognized the difference.

11 posted on 02/11/2003 9:30:00 AM PST by marron
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I was listening to Borks today; he said in Austin, to show support for the war people are driving around with their headlights. I think this is a good idea.
12 posted on 02/11/2003 9:30:46 AM PST by Porterville
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Where is the BARF ALERT on this article?
14 posted on 02/11/2003 9:34:07 AM PST by Howlin
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This difference is becoming ever more irrelevant. In the U.S. you can buy power. The result is that now Bush has to pay homage to the interests of the arms industry and oil industry, who financed him. In the United States there is no democracy, only a plutocracy (plutocracy: rule of the richest - tictoc). Campaigns are a content-free propaganda show I would like to buy the power to do some very bad things to this man.
16 posted on 02/11/2003 9:36:40 AM PST by Porterville
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Psychoanalysis: Old Europe is having "Delusions of Relevance".

19 posted on 02/11/2003 9:40:49 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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Drewermann: If, like Bush, you fight terrorism, you only multiply misery. Americans should set an example of effective disarmament for the world, and they should use the vast sums of money that they are investing in war to fight the causes of war. The United States has just reduced its spending to reduce poverty in the world to 1.7 billion dollars. That is less than what they spend on the military in two days.

He infers that poverty is the root cause of terrorism, of course that is wrong as bin Laden is from a very rich Saudi family and the 9/11 hijackers were not poor either. India has the second largest Muslim population in the world and they are among the poorest, yet they conduct almost no terrorism against Western nations. Africa is dirt poor yet not many terrorist acts against the west are commited by poor Africans.

The root causes of terrorism is the manipulation of an enslaved populous by dictators, totalitarian regimes and organizations to do their dirty work with promises of rewards and riches either in this world or the next or they are hitman for hire, well trained and well armed by third parties, hired to cause havoc and chaos in the freeworld, which is a threat to their rule.

The true solution to eradicating terrorism is freedom and democratic rule.

20 posted on 02/11/2003 9:45:32 AM PST by this_ol_patriot
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Two Lefties Talking:

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?

Drewermann: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah mother's breast blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah father figure blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPIEGEL ONLINE:Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?

Drewermann: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah psychotic blah blah blah blah blah blah blah berzerk blah blah blah blah blah. However, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Freud?

Drewermann: Blah. {Laughs}

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah. Indeed, blah blah Freud blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?

Drewermann: Blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah childhood trauma blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Blah blah blah blah?

Drewermann: Blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah. Blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah, psychoanalysis blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah................blah blah blah blah blah blah blah..........and furthermore, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!!!!!!!

Blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, father and son, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPIEGEL ONLINE:Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah medication?

Drewermann: Blah blah blah. Nevertheless, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?

Drewermann: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPIEGEL ONLINE:Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah?

Drewermann: Blah blah blah blah blah! Blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah:
1) Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah;
2) Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah;
3) Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!!!!!!!!!!!

SPIEGEL ONLINE:Blah?

Drewermann: Blah!

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?

Drewermann: Blah blah blah bipolar disorder!!!

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Blah, blah

21 posted on 02/11/2003 10:00:40 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Tag THIS!)
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If, like Bush, you fight terrorism, you only multiply misery.

If you think like this psychoanalyst, you must believe that Hitler did not multiply misery. My vote is still for Bush.

22 posted on 02/11/2003 10:02:29 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom
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DEAR LORD--PLEASE,

MAY ALL THIS MAN'S PATIENTS DESERT HIM FOR A BALANCED PSYCHOLOGIST, MD OR OTHER HEALTHIER COUNSELOR.

MAY HE BE CONFRONTED WITH DREAMS OF STARK REALISM ABOUT THE REAL BATTLES IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM AS WELL AS IN THE TANGIBLE REALM.

Let him eat his words 100 times over and then shut-up in humiliation!
23 posted on 02/11/2003 10:05:11 AM PST by Quix (21st FREEPCARD FINISHED--going to get back to it soonish)
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Thank you, Speigel Online. We are all dumber for having read your article. At no time during that entire rambling nonsense did the 'psychoanalyst' approach anything resembling a point. I award him no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.
26 posted on 02/18/2003 10:49:59 PM PST by Steel Wolf
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SPIEGEL ONLINE: Is there any hope that the president can free himself of this psychological mess?

Drewermann: You would have to talk to the potential opponent -- Iraq -- and together look for ways out of the crisis. The Europeans are trying to do that. However, Bush feels that he alone possesses wisdom and power, and he defies the world. He is a well-trained puppet of the Pentagon and the oil industry.

I was able to read up to about this point before my brain, in a desperate act of self preservation, disconnected itself, curled my body up into a ball, and rolled it onto the floor to get it away from the computer screen.

I'm usually a strong advocate of 'know your enemy' but in this case, I'll just chalk them up as 'totally nuts' and let it go at that.

28 posted on 02/18/2003 11:02:30 PM PST by Steel Wolf
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"SPIEGEL ONLINE: Is there any hope that the president can free himself of this psychological mess?

Drewermann: You would have to talk to the potential opponent -- Iraq -- and together look for ways out of the crisis. The Europeans are trying to do that. However, Bush feels that he alone possesses wisdom and power, and he defies the world. He is a well-trained puppet of the Pentagon and the oil industry.

There are people that believe this rubbish. LOL! Free himself indeed, like you did Drewermann, with a 2 liter jug of LSD?

29 posted on 02/18/2003 11:23:37 PM PST by spunkets
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