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Iraq Won't Accept French and German Plan for UN Peacekeepers
Bloomberg.com ^ | Feb.11, 2003 | Jad Mouawad

Posted on 02/11/2003 6:01:41 AM PST by conservativecorner

Edited on 07/19/2004 2:10:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Bloomberg) -- Iraq won't accept the presence of United Nations peacekeepers under a plan by Germany and France to disarm the country of its weapons of mass destruction, Iraqi Foreign Minister Naji Sabri told Al Hayat.

The U.S. and U.K. are heading for a showdown with the French and German governments, which support continued arms inspections and want more monitors sent to Iraq. France, Germany and Belgium vetoed proposals to equip North Atlantic Treaty Organization member Turkey with missiles to defend itself against a possible attack by neighboring Iraq, a move U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell called ``inexcusable.''


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What a surprise...ROFLMAO!
1 posted on 02/11/2003 6:01:41 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner
Don't they realize the Franco-German alliance is on their side?

Do you suppose thismeans that the Iraqis have completed their A-bomb and don't want or need any more delay?

2 posted on 02/11/2003 6:04:03 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: conservativecorner
Poor ole Chirac and Shroeder can't catch a dang break! NO ONE wants to be on their side!
3 posted on 02/11/2003 6:10:47 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: conservativecorner
Sacre bleu, Saddam, wee es trying to save your nice firm butt, and you are not helping!
4 posted on 02/11/2003 6:11:13 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: conservativecorner
Oh, Merde! The first harvest from Bordeau will probably be bad, too!
5 posted on 02/11/2003 6:16:15 AM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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To: MindBender26
Thank you, Iraq. Can we PLEEEAAASEE start bombing now?!?!?
6 posted on 02/11/2003 6:34:51 AM PST by Camerican
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To: conservativecorner
Of course Iraq would never accept such a plan. What's the difference between having your country taken over by thousands of blue helmets and having it taken by the US? Either way, Saddam goes down. The Germench alliance just doesn't get it.

Honestly I think Old Europe would get on board the disarmament train if we gave them some assurance that their oil contracts and deals will be honored somehow by the future dictator of Iraq.

7 posted on 02/11/2003 6:35:10 AM PST by Sender (-A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. -WOPR-)
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To: *war_list
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
8 posted on 02/11/2003 6:49:32 AM PST by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: conservativecorner
This is hilarious! We don't have to veto the plan -- Saddam did it instead.

Gotta love it!
9 posted on 02/11/2003 7:05:32 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: PhiKapMom
How difficult is it to let the Republican Guards know that if they kill Saddam, they will get say $100 million? Some of these guards have access to the real Saddam? That would be a more sure thing than to spend $100 billion, kill thousands, and destroy the whole country to get this one bastard.
10 posted on 02/11/2003 7:15:51 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: conservativecorner
Wow, the UN rejected even by Saddam. God they must feel low.
11 posted on 02/11/2003 7:19:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: conservativecorner
Saddamn says no now. Somehow I think he'll revisit the issue when we get close to the wire.
12 posted on 02/11/2003 7:21:04 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: conservativecorner
RELEASE THE HOUNDS !!!
13 posted on 02/11/2003 7:21:40 AM PST by Copperhead61
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To: PhiKapMom
I love it, too. Helps to prevent more harm on German/French and US relations. Now go, start the attack and be sure that you can celebrate Easter in Baghdad, peacefully!
14 posted on 02/11/2003 7:33:14 AM PST by Michael81Dus (You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
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To: conservativecorner
Headline:

Germans, French Told To Shove Blue Helmets Where Sun Does Not Shine

15 posted on 02/11/2003 7:34:57 AM PST by SerpentDove (Give Nukes A Chance.)
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To: Michael81Dus
I saw a report in one news source today that Germany had agreed to furnish the AWACS crew to Turkey (independently of NATO, of course).

This is great news. It's a rather ridiculous stance of Germany to be opposing it as a NATO action while providing the requested men and equipment in a low-profile manner, but the actions are more important than the words.

16 posted on 02/11/2003 7:38:01 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Michael81Dus
I have noticed the blame for this crises in NATO is pointing right at the French more and more. I am so glad to see the opposition leaders and some of the military speak out in Germany and send a message around the world that it is their leader not their Country doing this.

I sympathize with you all after eight years of Clinton in this Country who was a disgrace!
17 posted on 02/11/2003 7:42:45 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: Dog Gone
Germany is a loud opposition, but a silent contributor to the actions (e.g. my examples of Germans help in Germany, Afghanistan, Israel, Somalia etc). They have no other choice, and the question was never if we should help Turkey, but WHEN!
18 posted on 02/11/2003 7:43:23 AM PST by Michael81Dus (You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
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To: Michael81Dus
The entire Iraq issue has been a German foreign policy disaster. Here is an interview with Christian Schmidt, one of your members of the German Parliament.

Does yesterday's decision by Germany, Belgium and France pose a serious threat to NATO?

 

It poses a very severe danger to the future of NATO. There has never been a case where one member has requested protection and has then been refused it. I am very shocked that our government, the French and the Belgiums did what they did, because this is not about installing offensive or aggressive hardware, it's only a defense issue.

 

What is your opinion of the government's arguments for supporting the veto as a means of slowing down the possibility of war?

 

It's a very unconvincing argument. There are around 150,000 soldiers stationed around the Persian Gulf already, and we are only talking about two or four Patriot systems and AWACS that would defend the Turkish border. I don't think that not deploying these systems will slow down the possibility of war. In fact, it gives Saddam Hussein the impression there is a split in the alliance which he could deal with more easily than if there was a unified position on the matter.

 

If the Turkish believe their borders are in danger if military action against Iraq goes ahead, I don't see how we can say, "OK, Turkey, we'll wait until it really starts happening." We need up to four weeks to deploy these defensive structures. Today the debate has only been about planning. And planning does not increase the danger of war.

 

But Schröder's government doesn't share your opinion.

 

They aren't quite sure what they should be doing. They announced their position after the 10 a.m. NATO deadline for breaking silence. It was a half-hearted approach. The government obviously wants to show they are against the war for internal political reasons. But they also want to show that they support NATO. What is at stake here is the future of NATO. You have to ask yourself: What is the value of an alliance if there is a potential threat to an alliance member and then the alliance turns around and says, "No, we won't support you?" And this decision has come out of Berlin, which profited from the protection of the alliance for over 40 years! I see it as a very, very serious issue. And to be honest, there are lots of people in the German foreign office who are upset about what their own government is doing.

 

Do you think that by doing this Germany has severely undermined its position in the international community? I mean, just listen to what U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has been saying.

 

Oh, it's not about Rumsfeld jokes. It's about whether there is reliability in our dogmatic foreign policy. Our allies and friends now have the impression they cannot rely on Germany. It's not that Germany has to follow every proposal by the United States or Britain or France, but Germany cannot be relied upon. And that's the problem.

 

Germany will not be able to avoid starting war, but what we can avoid is the isolation of our country. What is happening is the complete and utter failure of our foreign policy.

 

What the government should do is wait for Blix and ElBaradei's final report and not fix their position before they know the facts. Secondly, they have to realize that NATO and European political integration is in severe danger.

 

19 posted on 02/11/2003 7:51:32 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Exactly my position. I know why I became member of the Christian Democratic Union in 1997 with the age of 16! :-)
20 posted on 02/11/2003 7:54:24 AM PST by Michael81Dus (You have (had) G. Bush, J. Cash, B. Hope & S. Wonder - we have Schröder: no cash, no hope, no wonder)
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