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1 posted on 02/10/2003 3:01:02 AM PST by kattracks
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Thanks Katt..

Regime change in France next..

2 posted on 02/10/2003 3:15:04 AM PST by Dog (How is my posting 1-888-ITS GOOD)
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Boycott all French and German products!!!!!
3 posted on 02/10/2003 3:18:49 AM PST by Highest Authority
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Actually, France hasn't forgotten a thing --- their priorities have shifted. They have their money tied up in oil deals and they have their French way of doing things and they have their terrorism in France. The French....we will never forget!


An Interesting Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a UPI article: "RUMSFELD ANNOYED OVER SECRET PLAN ON IRAQ" (Discussion Topic: Germany, France) (020903)

4 posted on 02/10/2003 3:23:54 AM PST by Cindy
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Dig them up and bring them home. I don't care what it costs. Put a 10% tax on French and German imports.
5 posted on 02/10/2003 3:35:26 AM PST by Leisler (My land, your land, the town's land.)
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6 posted on 02/10/2003 3:41:24 AM PST by shezza (we will not tire, we will not falter, we will not fail)
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But, didn't we go to war against Hitler just for our own imperialistic and selfish gain? You know, like how Bush now just wants to go to war against Iraq 1) for oil and 2) to take over the Middle East, force countries into democracies with hand-picked yes-men to Bush/America? </ sarcasm>

The french are shameless thankless fools.

8 posted on 02/10/2003 4:21:56 AM PST by nicmarlo
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God Bless France ...they're always there when they need us.


11 posted on 02/10/2003 4:47:56 AM PST by pyx
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Why don't we move these bodies home? Seriously...
12 posted on 02/10/2003 4:52:47 AM PST by RossA
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Another FReeper raised an interesting point ...

How will these graves of Christians and Jews be treated when France turns Muslim and institutes Sharia law?

Return the Fallen to the US now ... before it's too late.

13 posted on 02/10/2003 4:55:36 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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Vive les wimps!

I love it.The French war cry.

16 posted on 02/10/2003 5:21:19 AM PST by quack
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Someone said that the french hate us because we showed up late to help them during WW2. We have learned from our mistake...Next time we will not show up at all.
17 posted on 02/10/2003 5:24:58 AM PST by Diana Rose (All that Y2K prep. is now finally good for something)
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These people are disgusting. HALF their own freaking nation collaborated with HITLER rather than "be overrun." The mighty French army had to rely on U.S. planes and ships just to get it back to its own soil.

Now the Germans are getting into the act. Napoleon once said, at Waterloo, "I made one mistake. I should have burned Berlin." Remember, Napoleon wasn't French!

19 posted on 02/10/2003 5:51:16 AM PST by LS
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23 posted on 02/10/2003 6:11:33 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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"It chills the bone when the French government and so many of its citizens steadfastly try to undermine Bush, even sneer at him, when so many of them were saved by the nation he leads - with the greatest band of brothers on earth."

My uncle landed at Omaha Beach and battled Nazis through snow-covered fields all across France. As they marched through the streets of Paris, two little French girls came running up to him and handed him a lady's brooch pin, an Ivory elephant. (Wouldn't the libs hate that!) The crowds cheered and called out to the soldiers, "We love you...Thank you." He gave me that treasured pin, which I keep in the gun safe.

27 posted on 02/10/2003 6:51:20 AM PST by BBT
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Another infantile , unbelievably solipsistic rant. Between official spokesmen for the US government--who sound more like gansta rappers shouting insults, mockery and challenges--and edtorialists from the corporate press--who sound like shrieking 6th grade girls in a clique fight-- it's hard to feel either proud of or secure about our foreign policy. Here are some links to the price paid by various countries in WWI and WWII:

WWI casualties by country

WWII casualties by country

You'll notice that in WWI Russia suffered 1,700,000 dead; 4,950,000 wounded; - 6,650,000 total casualties out of 12,000,000 mobilized. You'll notice that in WWII the Soviet Union suffered 25, 568,000 total casualties; 8,668.000 military and 16,900,000 civilian.

You'll notice that in WWI France suffered 1,365,735 dead; 4,266,000 wouded; 477,800; missing/unrecoveravble; 6,109,535 total casualties out of 8,410,000 mobilized. You'll notice that in WWII France suffered 810,000 total causalties; 340,000 military and 470,000 civilian.

You'll notice that in WWI Germany suffered 1,808,546 dead; 4,247,143 wounded; 772,522missing; 6,828,211 total casualties our of 11,000,000 mobilized. You'll notice that in WWI Germany suffered 7,060,000 total casualties; 3,250,000 military and 3,810,000 civilian.

You'll notice that in WWI the USA suffered 116,608 dead; 204,002 wounded; - 320,610 total casualties out of 4,743,826 mobilized. You'll notice that in WWII the USA had 295,000 military casualties. No civilian casualties are mentioned.

I'm sure some of you must have noticed where all the great battles of WWI and WWII were fought. The idea that "Old Europe" needs the United States to tell them about war, or to be mau-maued by the Empire-builders in the Bush administration and the corporate media about the costs of war, borders on the viscious.

In fact, I'm developing a theory that there is something even worse than mere visciousness at work here. For over thirty years--The Thirty Years War perhaps?--European Americans have been taught to hate themselves by every The Government bureaucrat and corporate manager. Since we have almost no other cutural outlet beyond the State and the Corporation any more, that's a pretty thorough indoctrination.

The country has been brutally torn away from its European roots. There is no more study of Greece or Rome and the rest of European history is presented as two blips on the timeline--the Inquisition and the Holocaust.

Christian religious leaders have embraced self-loathing as their vocation and have transmitted it to their flocks in various ways in various denominations. One of the most popular ways is to de-Europeanize the Church and embrace the Old Testament with its endless tales of land-grabbing. So much more instantly gratifying than: My Kingdom is not of this world.

When Rumsfield does his gansta rap routine and disses "Old Europe" he's gleefully engaging in the Great National Pastime--burying "dead, white European males".

Down the memory hole with it all--all their stuggles; all their art; all their literature; all their music; all their sacrifices; all their glories and all their failings. They have nothing to say to us.

We have Michael's nose, Bill's penis, Oprah's butt and George says "Jesus" every once in a while.

What more could anyone ask?

HOW DARE THEY ASK FOR MORE?

28 posted on 02/10/2003 11:25:55 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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The French saved OUR bacon during the American Revolution! If it wasn't for them there probably wouldn't be an AMERICA!!
41 posted on 02/10/2003 11:47:34 AM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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And how dare Germans forget the 31 servicemen who lost their lives during the Berlin Airlift?
46 posted on 02/10/2003 11:53:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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Among the most admirable moves of President Lyndon Johnson came in the mid-1960s, following Charles de Gaulle’s announcement to withdraw France from NATO’s military alliance. As Secretary of State Dean Rusk finished briefing Johnson on the logistical details of his upcoming session with de Gaulle, the president calmly ordered something like, “Finally, Dean, ask de Gaulle if he also wants us to move the cemeteries of Americans buried there.” Rusk demurred, but Johnson made him ask. Should we also withdraw the graves of Americans who sacrificed their lives for France’s liberation from the Nazis?

Link: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,74903,00.html

The original source is Rusk's memoir. (de Gaulle said nothing after Rusk, at the conclusion of the meeting, popped the question.)

49 posted on 02/10/2003 11:55:13 AM PST by aculeus
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We visited the American Cemetery at Colleville-Sur-Mer in 1995, 51 years after the D-Day invasion. It is an incredibly sobering experience to see those endless rows of crosses and Stars of David, and in such a beautiful, now peaceful area. It is impossible to hold back the tears while you are there.

While I do agree with FReepers about the current selfishness of the French in regard to Iraq, I know at least SOME residents of France (Normandy, anyway) are (or were) grateful for our help in the past. While visiting this area in 1995, we saw many signs posted in front of homes - in both French and English - that said: "Thank you America!" and some that said: "Thank you, USA - We will never forget". These signs were hand made (not unlike our rally signs!) and were most likely left over from 1994's 50-year commemoration of D-Day at Normandy.

We spent several hours touring this American Cemetery and also nearby Pointe du Hoc*. All other visitors to these places that day (most of these visitors were French from what I could tell) were extremely respectful and somber.

Inscription at the entrance of The American Cemetery at Colleville-Sur-Mer:

At the top of the plateau overlooking Omaha Beach, gently sloping down to the sea, whence came the liberators, this plot of French soil has been given over in perpetuity to the United States. Here lie rearly 10,000 soldiers.

On a low wall, around the monument, figure the names of the 1,557 soldiers whose bodies were never found.

VISITOR,
Look how many of them there were
Look how young they were
They died for your freedom
Hold back your tears and keep silent.

... I find it difficult to hold back the tears every time I read those words.

*Inscription on a rock on the cliffs of Pointe Du Hoc:

To the Heroic Ranger Commandoes
D2RN E2RN F2RN
of the 116th INF
Who Under the Command of
Colonel James. E. Rudder
of the First American Division
Attacked and Took Possession of
The Pointe Du Hoc

53 posted on 02/10/2003 12:02:45 PM PST by nutmeg (Liberate Iraq - Support Our Troops!)
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It's very dangerous to ask a frenchman, or woman to cover your back, while entering terrorists caves. Now atleast we have the french in our line of sight. Gratitude, and france just don't go together.
65 posted on 02/10/2003 12:12:09 PM PST by desertcry
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