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The China Threat: How the People's Republic Targets America (Conclusion: An American China Strategy)
Bill Gertz, The Washington Times | 2000 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 02/09/2003 9:13:49 PM PST by Norm640

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Iraq, North Korea, Iran, and the War on Terror in general are occupying America right now, but this conclusion from Gertz's book deserves to be read again (and if you haven't read the book, it is a must--one of the most factual accounts of Chinese espionage and theft I've read). The War on Terror will divert our attention from China, but we can't do this forever. Like Russia, China considers us an enemy (and always has), and is building up its forces not to overcome Taiwan, but to overcome the US.

The fact that the Chinese government controls the Panama Canal should scare you enough.

1 posted on 02/09/2003 9:13:49 PM PST by Norm640
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To: Norm640
bttt

good post
2 posted on 02/09/2003 9:20:09 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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To: Norm640
Who Sold Us Out to China: A Study of the Sino-American Relationship
3 posted on 02/09/2003 9:25:28 PM PST by Publius
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To: *China stuff
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
4 posted on 02/09/2003 9:26:23 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: DoughtyOne
FYI!

We were just talking about this threat on another thread and up pops Bill Gertz on the same wavelength!
5 posted on 02/09/2003 9:38:48 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: Jeff Head
ping!
6 posted on 02/09/2003 9:43:08 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Norm640
Great Post and great find !!
7 posted on 02/09/2003 9:59:54 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: PhiKapMom
Honestly, I can barely read stuff like this without shaking my head and thinking, how long was the fall Mr. Gertz? Was it a third story window or higher?

China is "NOTHING" without the incredible trade dollars we inject it with each and every month. Gertz's five step plan plods through some decent areas as if one of Vincent Price's zombies, face staring straight ahead, arms outstretched. What it doesn't do it is turn off the spiggot.

We turn off the spiggot and China collapses like the over inflatulanced badger that it is.

I've been saying this for ten years. Even though China is thought to be an increasingly dire threat to the United States, no the entire civilized world, Gertz is loathe to even whisper the only true cure.

Until Mr. Gertz gets up the courage, and a hell of a lot others too, we're just biding time until WWIII erupts.

8 posted on 02/09/2003 10:07:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: Norm640
"The fact that the Chinese government controls the Panama Canal should scare you enough."

One of the reason for this is that they can send their mobile IRBMs in cargo containers undetected by anyone to the Panamal Canal and if they fire them there, no US ABM system will be able to knock them down.

To Moderator(s): This is public information published in Bill Gertz's book, The China Threat. So don't go and delete my post because you think that it will damage our national security. Our national security already has been damaged. It's time for Americans to wake up to this realization. And maybe sometime will be done to neutralize this very dangerous threat.
9 posted on 02/09/2003 10:32:03 PM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: DoughtyOne
"I've been saying this for ten years. Even though China is thought to be an increasingly dire threat to the United States, no the entire civilized world, Gertz is loathe to even whisper the only true cure."

You mean this....


Never Again Speech
Boycott Made in China
The Laogai Research Foundation

10 posted on 02/09/2003 10:36:12 PM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Not only does our trade with China strengthen them, it weakens us. They have become the low cost producer of the world, weakening all other economies, sending them into a deflationary spiral.

We defeated the Soviet Union first and foremost by the power of our economy. China is striving to do the same to us and the rest of the free world, by starving the rest of the world's low tech manufacturing of profits.

11 posted on 02/09/2003 11:07:05 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!!!)
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To: Norm640
To use the words of Bob Grant, "Somebody's gotta say these things, it might as well be me..."

As it stands right now, with 1.)Rampant, unchecked, illegal Chinese immigration; (2005's biggest news item needed to be solved yesterday!)
2.)strangulating, emasculating Political Correctness;
3.)PRC purchace of Congressional influence;
4.)Pentagon arrogance and incompetence, (sponsoring sight-seeing tours of sensitive US installations is not smart)
5.)Executive ignorance; (China is NOT our friend, and we must treat them as such)
6.) corporate investment in mainland China; (we are making them rich, and giving them the capital to build things to use against us)
7.)media/university/leftist collaboration (the enemies within) and of course,
8.) Fatal lapses in security (Who knows what is in our country, let alone our ports--"Homeboy's Security" is not cutting it)
8.) Failure to resist international pressures
9.)Pandemic technology theft
and 10.)Two Bill Clinton Presidential terms...

We would, in 10 years, lose a Chinese/US war if we do not immediately start anticipating, and thwarting, China's intentions and ambitions, as well as correcting the above fatal errors.

While they are brushing up on "The Art of War," our generals are caving to DACOWITS and radical environmentalists. While they are planning asymmetrical warfare, terrorist attacks, and sneak/surprise tactics,(like EMPs, electronic jamming, hacking, computer warfare) we are becoming too dependent on technology we do not fully understand yet, with little thought (from what I read) as to protecting the technology from the enemy.

Our foreign policy seems to be treating them simultaneously as backward/1970s China and "get rich quick"-business partner. They are neither. It seems FreeRepublic has a better grasp on what to do than our own government.

12 posted on 02/09/2003 11:38:24 PM PST by Captainpaintball (Me Chinese, Me play joke, Me put pee pee in your Coke!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
No More Chinese Take-Out!!

On a positive note, it seems like the CIA has finally realized the threat (or more likely was finally given the ok to do something about it). I read a post here the other day claiming that the CIA was taking special interest in Chinese university students - recruiting and monitoring activities. It's a start.
13 posted on 02/10/2003 12:34:44 AM PST by enemy9oclock
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To: Captainpaintball
Think of this as your money going to Nazi Germany every year for the past 10 year and more (in billions of US dollars):

PRC-US Trade Facts (0)
Year US EX PRC EX US Deficit
1991 6.3 19.0 12.7
1992 7.4 25.7 18.3
1993 8.8 31.5 22.7
1994 9.3 38.8 29.5
1995 11.7 45.5 33.8
1996 12.0 51.5 39.5
1997 12.9 62.6 49.7
1998 14.2 71.2 56.9
1999 13.1 81.8 68.7
2000 16.3 100.1 83.8
2001 19.2 102.3 83.1
2002 15.9 89.5 90???

Total hard currency infusion into Communist China since 1991 is $498.7 billion excluding 2002. That's half a trillion dollars of hard currency to America's number one avowed enemy.

"We'll see you the rope--made by our slaves--to hang you with." Shi Shi Nee!
14 posted on 02/10/2003 12:39:37 AM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: Norm640
China is behind the North Korea problem. China benefits from disruption and chaos because of it's huge mass of people and surplus people. China knows it will not be shunned because it's the world's low cost producer. Even 3rd world nations like Mexico are addicted to it's cheap manufactures.
15 posted on 02/10/2003 12:53:15 AM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: dennisw
Communist China is THE problem. They are only using NK as their proxy to either take on the US or get the US out of SK.
16 posted on 02/10/2003 6:15:22 AM PST by HighRoadToChina (Never Again!)
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To: HighRoadToChina
Yes, I mean that. :)
17 posted on 02/10/2003 8:31:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
What do you mean China is striving?????

Geez louise, they've been forced to do it by the United States. We've cramed every bit of manufacturing down their throat that they could handle. The blame goes squarely on Washington, D.C. and the corporate cannabalistic climate in the United States.

18 posted on 02/10/2003 8:34:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: ThePythonicCow
BTW, you were absolutely right with regard to your Russia vs China policy point. I cannot understand why folks are unable to grasp that point. Also I'm at a loss to understan why policies that saw this nation become triple or quadrupple any other nation on the planet, had to been selved and replaced by the trade policies we have today.

If this isn't a concerted effort to destroy this nation, it surely couldn't have been more effective if it had been.

19 posted on 02/10/2003 8:37:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 6, Staterooms As Low As $610 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: Captainpaintball
The US should have a standing 3 million man army, and there should be a 2 year mandatory service commitment for 18 year olds. Sounds callous, but ask Israel what national survival means. The 3 million man army, if constructed, would less likely to be used because of the deterring effects such numbers achieve. Besides, when not using them, we can sufficiently arm our borders.
20 posted on 02/10/2003 9:39:21 AM PST by Norm640 (Patriot, Republican, Catholic.)
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