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To: Mark Felton
While most of the world focuses on the UN and the next report from Blix on Friday, a much bigger event will take place on Monday.

The future of NATO rides on whether or not Germany, France, and Belgium block Turkey's request for NATO protection.

If those countries block it, NATO is dead as an alliance. It will also indicate that no UN Resolution authorizing force will pass.

It is incredible to me that these nations would sacrifice NATO in order to protect Saddam Hussein, but that's what it's coming down to.

Europe will either fracture on Monday, or it will decide to follow the US lead and do the right thing.

Monday is a decisive day in world history.

10 posted on 02/08/2003 10:07:59 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
It is incredible to me that these nations would sacrifice NATO in order to protect Saddam Hussein, but that's what it's coming down to.

Speaks volumes, doesn't it

14 posted on 02/08/2003 10:47:03 AM PST by Mo1
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To: Dog Gone

If those countries block it, NATO is dead as an alliance. It will also indicate that no UN Resolution authorizing force will pass.

It is incredible to me that these nations would sacrifice NATO in order to protect Saddam Hussein, but that's what it's coming down to.

Europe will either fracture on Monday, or it will decide to follow the US lead and do the right thing.

Monday is a decisive day in world history.

I don't see any media reports that lay it out as all that important!

Where in the hell is our media that is suppose to be watching over the American's welfare?

16 posted on 02/08/2003 10:49:04 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Impeach Gray Davis! (Disregard for now - he is still useful;) OK Recall him!)
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To: Dog Gone
France and Germany are really acting wreckless here. Not protecting Turkey? Good Lord...what's the point of being part of NATO if the darn organization won't even protect when the time warrants it.

France and Germany...shame on you!

17 posted on 02/08/2003 10:49:32 AM PST by Wphile (I'm so sick of the UN)
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To: Dog Gone
I thought I read earlier that Germany has given in...could be wrong.
23 posted on 02/08/2003 10:59:16 AM PST by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: Dog Gone
"...If those countries block it, NATO is dead as an alliance. It will also indicate that no UN Resolution authorizing force will pass.

It is incredible to me that these nations would sacrifice NATO in order to protect Saddam Hussein, but that's what it's coming down to.

Europe will either fracture on Monday, or it will decide to follow the US lead and do the right thing.

MONDAY IS A DECISIVE DAY IN WORLD HISTORY."

I appreciate your analysis, DG. Very well said.
38 posted on 02/08/2003 12:18:34 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: Dog Gone
Monday is a decisive day in world history.

I am with you on that one. If Germany, France, and Belgium block the request from Turkey for help, NATO is effectively dead. Same fate will then befall the UN!

Are Germany and France ready to go that far? If I were betting, I sure wouldn't bet on them coming around as far out on the limb as they have gone.

41 posted on 02/08/2003 12:32:48 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: Dog Gone
The future of NATO rides on whether or not Germany, France, and Belgium block Turkey's request for NATO protection.
If those countries block it, NATO is dead as an alliance.

That is their intention. Since the Fall of The Warsaw Pact and the expansion of NATO, France and Germany have looked for a pretext to drive us out of NATO so that they could form a new Alliance with themselves in the center.

The fact that almost all of NATO and the NATO wannabes have sided with us has to be making them very very twitchy. They must have nightmares in which we stay in NATO and they are pushed out along with Greece and Belgium.

44 posted on 02/08/2003 12:55:50 PM PST by and the horse you rode in on (Nuke 'em till they GLOW and shoot 'em in the dark.)
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To: Dog Gone
"Monday is a decisive day in world history."

Nice analysis, and makes lots of sense. France and
Germany must have a whole lot to hide with respect to
their dealings with Iraq to go to the mat on this.

Of course this is helped a long
with a good size helping of anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.

46 posted on 02/08/2003 1:16:02 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Dog Gone
Monday is a decisive day in world history

A political analyst named Tunku V. (from the Wall Street Journal) said on television about 3 months ago that NATO was really the USA, Great Britain, and Turkey...the only real military powers...he predicted that NATO would eventually welcome some of the smaller Asian Muslim countries like Uzbekistan, etc. out of deference to Turkey's unique role in bridging the gap between the West and the Muslim world...as a secular Muslim country Turkey may emerge from this war on terror a much more influential player than the French and the Germans...we certainly live in interesting times...thank God we have FR to come to and exchange ideas.

52 posted on 02/08/2003 1:37:06 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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