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Bush, Rumsfeld Warn Against Delay on Iraq [McCain: "vacuous posturing"]
AP ^ | 2/8/03 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 02/08/2003 9:47:15 AM PST by Mark Felton

Edited on 02/08/2003 9:51:40 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

MUNICH, Germany (AP) -- In a jab at major U.S. allies, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Saturday countries such as France and Germany that favor giving Iraq another chance to disarm are undermining what slim chance may exist to avoid war.

"There are those who counsel that we should delay preparations" for war against Iraq. "Ironically, that approach could well make war more likely, not less, because delaying preparations sends a signal of uncertainty," Rumsfeld said in the opening address at an international conference on security policy.

President Bush said he will not wait much longer before moving against Saddam Hussein, declaring in his weekly radio address that the Iraqi leader is wasting a last opportunity to come clean.

Rumsfeld said "there is no chance" Saddam will disarm voluntarily or flee his country if given yet another opportunity to comply with the U.N. Security Council resolution from November that demands Iraq's complete disarmament.

Thousands more American forces are converging on the Persian Gulf region in anticipation of a decision by Bush, within days or weeks, to invade Iraq and oust Saddam. Also, Turkey's top civilian and military leaders reportedly agreed Saturday to let the United States send 38,000 troops to the country to open a northern front should there be war with Iraq.

On Munich's snowy streets, an estimated 14,000 people staged protests against U.S. policy on Iraq. "Today Munich says yes to peace and no to war," said Roman Catholic Bishop Engelbert Siebler.

Rumsfeld said Saddam has time to avert war but should not be given another U.N. reprieve.

"We all hope for a peaceful resolution," Rumsfeld said at the 39th Munich Conference on Security, which attracted lawmakers, policy officials, military leaders and private analysts from the United States, Europe and Asia.

"But the one chance for a peaceful resolution is to make clear that free nations are prepared to use force if necessary - that the world is united and, while reluctant, is willing to act."

In response to Rumsfeld's remarks, German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer made an impassioned plea for patience with Iraq and said the German public sees no justification for going to war.

"We must not accept the logic of a military campaign," Fischer said. "We must give the inspectors more time."

In Berlin, a German government official said his country is working with France on "specific peaceful alternatives to a military solution." The German magazine Der Spiegel reported that the French-German plan includes placing U.N. troops across Iraq, conducting reconnaissance flights over the country and tripling the number of U.N. weapons inspectors.

Bush said in his broadcast from the White House that Saddam "was given a final chance. He is throwing away that chance."

Sergei Ivanov, the Russian defense minister whose government opposes early military action against Iraq, told the Munich conference the main focus should be on fighting international terrorism of all kinds.

Ivanov did not mention Iraq. He and Rumsfeld met later for a one-on-one session that included a discussion of the way ahead in Afghanistan, including the training of a national army.

The split over Iraq among the United States, Britain and numerous other European countries on the one hand and Germany, France and Russia on the other has caused severe strains in diplomatic relations.

Some of the harshest words came from Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who, with Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., led a U.S. congressional delegation to the conference.

McCain hammered France and Germany for blocking a NATO effort to plan for ways of defending alliance Turkey from potential attacks by Iraq in the event of war. Turkey has requested such assistance, and the United States is strongly in favor of it. The Turks want Patriot anti-missile batteries, surveillance planes and other defensive help.

McCain accused the Germans and French of "calculated self-interest." He said their actions had caused a "terrible injury" to NATO and exposed their "vacuous posturing."

NATO officials are to meet Monday in an attempt to resolve the conflict over defensive aid for Turkey.

In his speech, Rumsfeld left no doubt that Bush is prepared to act soon on Iraq. The Pentagon chief referred to Secretary of State Colin Powell's presentation to the Security Council last week and said it provided "not conjecture but facts" on the Iraqi threat.

"It is difficult to believe there still could be any question in the minds of reasonable people open to the facts before them," Rumsfeld said. "The threat is there to see. ... Really the only question remaining is: what will we do about it?"

He concluded his speech by saying, "The coming days and weeks will tell."

Rumsfeld also criticized the United Nations for making Iraq the head of the U.N. Commission on Disarmament and Libya the head of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights.

"An institution that, with the support or acquiescence of many of the nations represented in this room, would permit" this to happen "seems not to be even struggling to regain credibility," he said with a tone of incredulity.

"That these acts of irresponsibility could happen now, at this moment in history, is breathtaking."


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To: Mark Felton
McCain accused the Germans and French of "calculated self-interest."

I meant to add something about the pot calling the kettle black............

21 posted on 02/08/2003 10:53:34 AM PST by P8riot
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To: jwalsh07
LOL, up next: North Korea as head of the UN Commission for nuclear disarmamnet.

Cuba to head the UN Commission on Economic Development.

22 posted on 02/08/2003 10:58:58 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Dog Gone
I thought I read earlier that Germany has given in...could be wrong.
23 posted on 02/08/2003 10:59:16 AM PST by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
The headline led me to believe that McCain was accusing Dubya and/or Rummy of "vacuous posturing." Glad to find that's not the case. I'm no fan of McCain, but I would have been stunned...

That's what I thought, too! I sure was glad to see that McCain wasn't once again attempting to undermine the President. However, he will do so soon enough. You heard it here first.

24 posted on 02/08/2003 11:01:12 AM PST by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: Wphile
Rumsfeld is fantastic. The media prefers Powell because he tends to be a dove...but I'll take Rummy every time. The media puts him down because he tells it like it is...same reason they hate President Bush. They much prefer the lying, evasive diplo-speak of clinton.
25 posted on 02/08/2003 11:03:52 AM PST by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: NewYorker
I don't know why we continue to try to persuade the irrational. The bottom line is we are the target, they are not. They don't get a vote. Of course, they will be the target if we go down, but logic is not the liberals' forte. (sorry for the French word :) )
26 posted on 02/08/2003 11:06:32 AM PST by Let's Roll (Whether we bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The media operates as a pack. Until the New York Times or Washington Post points out what I said, the rest of them don't have the analytical ability to see what's really happening.

I'm actually rather pessimistic about Monday. The fact that the Dutch decided to send Patriot missiles to Turkey on their own is a hint that they don't expect NATO to do it collectively.

I knew that a war in Iraq would change the Middle East. I never foresaw that it would throw Europe into diplomatic chaos.

This even threatens the existence of the EU.

27 posted on 02/08/2003 11:06:37 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Reagan Man
The UN will be out of the US in less than five years - if it even exists by that time.
28 posted on 02/08/2003 11:09:10 AM PST by Let's Roll (Whether we bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done.)
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To: Wait4Truth
Germany has said that it stands by NATO's commitments, but that it wants to wait until after Blix's next report on Friday before actually making that commitment. Blah blah blah.

We're out of time. Blix's report will be neutral. "We've made progress but more progress is needed." Germany won't commit then, either.

The game is over.

29 posted on 02/08/2003 11:12:46 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
As is so often said, Sept 11th changed everything!
30 posted on 02/08/2003 11:38:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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To: Mark Felton
I do not see how NATO can survive this treachery.
31 posted on 02/08/2003 12:00:19 PM PST by happygrl
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To: NewYorker
"Peace in our time" came from Munich too, didn't it?
32 posted on 02/08/2003 12:00:50 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Dog Gone
This even threatens the existence of the EU.

What a Dog Gone shame, heh?

33 posted on 02/08/2003 12:02:48 PM PST by angry elephant
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To: Dog Gone
A recent issue of Foreign Affairs contained a lead article calling for amending the North Atlantic Treaty so that members who do not fulfill their obligations can be expelled.
34 posted on 02/08/2003 12:03:18 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Mark Felton
"We must not accept the logic of a military campaign," Fischer said. "We must give the inspectors more time."

To find nothing.

35 posted on 02/08/2003 12:03:36 PM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Dog Gone
"This even threatens the existence of the EU."

Breaks your heart, doesn't it?

36 posted on 02/08/2003 12:03:45 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
The EU was a terrible idea, and its destruction would be quite an accomplishment. I'm not sure whether the Euro could be undone, or even whether it should be, the EU was a horrible idea from the start.
37 posted on 02/08/2003 12:08:25 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
"...If those countries block it, NATO is dead as an alliance. It will also indicate that no UN Resolution authorizing force will pass.

It is incredible to me that these nations would sacrifice NATO in order to protect Saddam Hussein, but that's what it's coming down to.

Europe will either fracture on Monday, or it will decide to follow the US lead and do the right thing.

MONDAY IS A DECISIVE DAY IN WORLD HISTORY."

I appreciate your analysis, DG. Very well said.
38 posted on 02/08/2003 12:18:34 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: Mark Felton
From the article: NATO officials are to meet Monday in an attempt to resolve the conflict over defensive aid for Turkey

The Dutch have already faithfully responded to Turkey's request and will send at the end of next week three (of the country's four) Patriot systems and 370 soldiers to man them.

At the end of the week, the acting Prime Minister called the inspections a "foolish game" (or something like that; I can't remember the Dutch phrase), while the Foreign Affairs Minister was in D.C. with Powell to discuss the details US's request for military cooperation.

39 posted on 02/08/2003 12:24:48 PM PST by Jan Kees
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To: All
I fear leadership failures of our past,
korea, cuba, vietnam,'90stragedies
and do not want to add another, as
being the demise of civilization
more than the parallels with Rome
and to go further back in history,
I suggest Donald Kagan's book
"On the Origins of War and the
Preservation of Peace" ...rto

once again and again and again...
the dems and dems-witted are not
rallying around the flag

40 posted on 02/08/2003 12:31:11 PM PST by visitor (Thank God George Bush Won)
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