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Bush, Rumsfeld Warn Against Delay on Iraq [McCain: "vacuous posturing"]
AP ^ | 2/8/03 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 02/08/2003 9:47:15 AM PST by Mark Felton

Edited on 02/08/2003 9:51:40 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

MUNICH, Germany (AP) -- In a jab at major U.S. allies, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Saturday countries such as France and Germany that favor giving Iraq another chance to disarm are undermining what slim chance may exist to avoid war.

"There are those who counsel that we should delay preparations" for war against Iraq. "Ironically, that approach could well make war more likely, not less, because delaying preparations sends a signal of uncertainty," Rumsfeld said in the opening address at an international conference on security policy.

President Bush said he will not wait much longer before moving against Saddam Hussein, declaring in his weekly radio address that the Iraqi leader is wasting a last opportunity to come clean.

Rumsfeld said "there is no chance" Saddam will disarm voluntarily or flee his country if given yet another opportunity to comply with the U.N. Security Council resolution from November that demands Iraq's complete disarmament.

Thousands more American forces are converging on the Persian Gulf region in anticipation of a decision by Bush, within days or weeks, to invade Iraq and oust Saddam. Also, Turkey's top civilian and military leaders reportedly agreed Saturday to let the United States send 38,000 troops to the country to open a northern front should there be war with Iraq.

On Munich's snowy streets, an estimated 14,000 people staged protests against U.S. policy on Iraq. "Today Munich says yes to peace and no to war," said Roman Catholic Bishop Engelbert Siebler.

Rumsfeld said Saddam has time to avert war but should not be given another U.N. reprieve.

"We all hope for a peaceful resolution," Rumsfeld said at the 39th Munich Conference on Security, which attracted lawmakers, policy officials, military leaders and private analysts from the United States, Europe and Asia.

"But the one chance for a peaceful resolution is to make clear that free nations are prepared to use force if necessary - that the world is united and, while reluctant, is willing to act."

In response to Rumsfeld's remarks, German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer made an impassioned plea for patience with Iraq and said the German public sees no justification for going to war.

"We must not accept the logic of a military campaign," Fischer said. "We must give the inspectors more time."

In Berlin, a German government official said his country is working with France on "specific peaceful alternatives to a military solution." The German magazine Der Spiegel reported that the French-German plan includes placing U.N. troops across Iraq, conducting reconnaissance flights over the country and tripling the number of U.N. weapons inspectors.

Bush said in his broadcast from the White House that Saddam "was given a final chance. He is throwing away that chance."

Sergei Ivanov, the Russian defense minister whose government opposes early military action against Iraq, told the Munich conference the main focus should be on fighting international terrorism of all kinds.

Ivanov did not mention Iraq. He and Rumsfeld met later for a one-on-one session that included a discussion of the way ahead in Afghanistan, including the training of a national army.

The split over Iraq among the United States, Britain and numerous other European countries on the one hand and Germany, France and Russia on the other has caused severe strains in diplomatic relations.

Some of the harshest words came from Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who, with Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., led a U.S. congressional delegation to the conference.

McCain hammered France and Germany for blocking a NATO effort to plan for ways of defending alliance Turkey from potential attacks by Iraq in the event of war. Turkey has requested such assistance, and the United States is strongly in favor of it. The Turks want Patriot anti-missile batteries, surveillance planes and other defensive help.

McCain accused the Germans and French of "calculated self-interest." He said their actions had caused a "terrible injury" to NATO and exposed their "vacuous posturing."

NATO officials are to meet Monday in an attempt to resolve the conflict over defensive aid for Turkey.

In his speech, Rumsfeld left no doubt that Bush is prepared to act soon on Iraq. The Pentagon chief referred to Secretary of State Colin Powell's presentation to the Security Council last week and said it provided "not conjecture but facts" on the Iraqi threat.

"It is difficult to believe there still could be any question in the minds of reasonable people open to the facts before them," Rumsfeld said. "The threat is there to see. ... Really the only question remaining is: what will we do about it?"

He concluded his speech by saying, "The coming days and weeks will tell."

Rumsfeld also criticized the United Nations for making Iraq the head of the U.N. Commission on Disarmament and Libya the head of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights.

"An institution that, with the support or acquiescence of many of the nations represented in this room, would permit" this to happen "seems not to be even struggling to regain credibility," he said with a tone of incredulity.

"That these acts of irresponsibility could happen now, at this moment in history, is breathtaking."


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1 posted on 02/08/2003 9:47:15 AM PST by Mark Felton
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To: Admin Moderator
please kill this mess. I'll repost a clean copy.
2 posted on 02/08/2003 9:48:27 AM PST by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
WOW. How do you do that?
3 posted on 02/08/2003 9:50:25 AM PST by paul51
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To: Mark Felton
Fixed.
4 posted on 02/08/2003 9:51:53 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
thanks
5 posted on 02/08/2003 9:52:47 AM PST by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
This is my favorite part:

Rumsfeld also criticized the United Nations for making Iraq the head of the U.N. Commission on Disarmament and Libya the head of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights.

"An institution that, with the support or acquiescence of many of the nations represented in this room, would permit" this to happen "seems not to be even struggling to regain credibility," he said with a tone of incredulity.

"That these acts of irresponsibility could happen now, at this moment in history, is breathtaking."

LOL. The Euroweenies have no idea how to deal with real men.

6 posted on 02/08/2003 9:55:54 AM PST by Mark Felton
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Rumsfeld also criticized the United Nations for making Iraq the head of the U.N. Commission on Disarmament and Libya the head of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights.

He did it! He did it! God, I love this man!!!! I was so hoping he would say this and expose them for what they are! Go, Rummy, go!

7 posted on 02/08/2003 9:59:04 AM PST by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: Mark Felton
Rumsfeld also criticized the United Nations for making Iraq the head of the U.N. Commission on Disarmament and Libya the head of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights.

LOL, up next: North Korea as head of the UN Commission for nuclear disarmamnet.

8 posted on 02/08/2003 9:59:05 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Mark Felton
"Today Munich says yes to peace and no to war," said Roman Catholic Bishop Engelbert Siebler.

That would be the "peace" of the embassy bombings, the attack on the USS Cole and September 11th?

9 posted on 02/08/2003 10:03:18 AM PST by NewYorker
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To: Mark Felton
While most of the world focuses on the UN and the next report from Blix on Friday, a much bigger event will take place on Monday.

The future of NATO rides on whether or not Germany, France, and Belgium block Turkey's request for NATO protection.

If those countries block it, NATO is dead as an alliance. It will also indicate that no UN Resolution authorizing force will pass.

It is incredible to me that these nations would sacrifice NATO in order to protect Saddam Hussein, but that's what it's coming down to.

Europe will either fracture on Monday, or it will decide to follow the US lead and do the right thing.

Monday is a decisive day in world history.

10 posted on 02/08/2003 10:07:59 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Mark Felton
"An institution that, with the support or acquiescence of many of the nations represented in this room, would permit" this to happen "seems not to be even struggling to regain credibility," he said with a tone of incredulity.

"That these acts of irresponsibility could happen now, at this moment in history, is breathtaking."

There you go again, Don, expecting moral integrity out of socialists. When are we gonna learn?

Socialists worship bureaucracy and procedure and accept the consequences as part of the deal because they ferverently belive that NO ONE can be trusted. These same people simultaneously use that corrupt system of centralized command and control to influence world events to their individual advantage.

Thus, the predisposition of Eurogag diplomats and their State Department wannabes, to the bureaucratic socialism so epitomized by the UN, is more a reflection on their own lack of integrity than anything else.

11 posted on 02/08/2003 10:15:30 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Mark Felton
The headline led me to believe that McCain was accusing Dubya and/or Rummy of "vacuous posturing." Glad to find that's not the case. I'm no fan of McCain, but I would have been stunned...
12 posted on 02/08/2003 10:31:40 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina (optional tag line, printed after my name)
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To: Mark Felton
>>>McCain accused the Germans and French of "calculated self-interest."

So what's new? The socialists in France and Germany have always had "calculated self-intetrests" and a large part of the time, they've been in direct opposition to US interests.

>>>Rumsfeld also criticized the United Nations for making Iraq the head of the U.N. Commission on Disarmament and Libya the head of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights.

The UN has little credibility left. Time to close up shop and move to France or Germany.

13 posted on 02/08/2003 10:45:59 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Dog Gone
It is incredible to me that these nations would sacrifice NATO in order to protect Saddam Hussein, but that's what it's coming down to.

Speaks volumes, doesn't it

14 posted on 02/08/2003 10:47:03 AM PST by Mo1
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To: Wait4Truth
Way to go Rummy and by the way, McCain. Rummy's takin' it to the UN and McCain to the French and Germans. Gotta love it.
15 posted on 02/08/2003 10:48:01 AM PST by Wphile (I'm so sick of the UN)
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To: Dog Gone

If those countries block it, NATO is dead as an alliance. It will also indicate that no UN Resolution authorizing force will pass.

It is incredible to me that these nations would sacrifice NATO in order to protect Saddam Hussein, but that's what it's coming down to.

Europe will either fracture on Monday, or it will decide to follow the US lead and do the right thing.

Monday is a decisive day in world history.

I don't see any media reports that lay it out as all that important!

Where in the hell is our media that is suppose to be watching over the American's welfare?

16 posted on 02/08/2003 10:49:04 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Impeach Gray Davis! (Disregard for now - he is still useful;) OK Recall him!)
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To: Dog Gone
France and Germany are really acting wreckless here. Not protecting Turkey? Good Lord...what's the point of being part of NATO if the darn organization won't even protect when the time warrants it.

France and Germany...shame on you!

17 posted on 02/08/2003 10:49:32 AM PST by Wphile (I'm so sick of the UN)
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18 posted on 02/08/2003 10:50:25 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Nuke Saddam ( Bush is thinking about it ) and then what about Germany and France?)
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To: Mark Felton
"An institution that, with the support or acquiescence of many of the nations represented in this room, would permit" this to happen "seems not to be even struggling to regain credibility," he said with a tone of incredulity.

"That these acts of irresponsibility could happen now, at this moment in history, is breathtaking."

No kidding. The UN is a joke and it's high time the US say so.

19 posted on 02/08/2003 10:51:29 AM PST by Wphile (I'm so sick of the UN)
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To: Mark Felton
McCain accused the Germans and French of "calculated self-interest."

He should know.

20 posted on 02/08/2003 10:52:19 AM PST by P8riot
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