Posted on 02/07/2003 5:24:37 AM PST by Jimmyclyde
Italy school trip was weedy good
ROME (Reuters) - An Italian court has ruled that taking 40 joints of hashish on a school trip is not a crime. The marijuana was for personal use since the 17-year-old student planned to share it with two fellow students and a teacher, the appeals court judge said.
Under Italian law, selling marijuana is a crime, but possession for personal use is not.
"It could easily have been consumed during the many days of the trip," Corriere della Sera daily quoted the court ruling as saying.
And your conclusion, "Finally, the pro-WOD folks will grow weary of the stridence of the ant-WOD crowd and leave" alone betrays your true opinion of the matter.
As someone who lurks on these threads but rarely posts, I would argue that these threads always end up being the same because the pro-WOD side has no arguments and not a leg to stand on, yet they are clearly incapable of addressing the massive evidence that disproves their theories.
The defense of the WOD by definition requires defending 'statist' and 'unconstitutional' positions.
You somehow don't mention that at all in your 'predictions'.
Ah, well, back to lurking.
If you have drawn conclusions of my feelings on this matter, you have been misled.
The defense of the WOD by definition requires defending 'statist' and 'unconstitutional' positions. You somehow don't mention that at all in your 'predictions'.
But that rarely happens. Everything else I predicted in that post almost always comes true.
How odd, from what I see, I believe it is the entire point of these threads.
The case is open and shut, it required a constitutional ammendment to outlaw alcohol. That's a slam-dunk proof the WOD is unconstitutional.
As with all defense of unconstitutional behavior, the pro-WOD people are presented with evidence that they support unconstitutional behavior over and over again, then the pro-WOD folks obfuscate, call names, and generally avoid the evidence at hand, until they finally just go away, only to reappear and repeat the same lies, the same straw men, the same obfuscations.
And you are dancing around the issue, re: 'doper' and 'drunk'.
If there were a discussion about the legality of alcohol, and you said of the drinkers supporting legality "the drunks say such and such", you'd be betraying an immense bias.
This is no different.
I consider the "alcohol legal, tobacco legal, pot illegal" triangle to be one of the most amazingly obvious abuses of the law I've ever seen.
I mainly lurk to watch the debate.
I believe the term you're looking for is FORECAST, not predict.
Evidence? I've seen alot of "opinion" that the WOD is unconstitutional. I'd love to see some evidence.
Actually, I've seen evidence that the WOD is constitutional. I can gladly provide you with links to the cases (unless the facts would get in your way). Additionally, not one single aspect of the WOD has yet to found unconstitutional by any court in the land.
But hey, I could be wrong. And if I am, please provide me with that juicy evidence you're talking about.
I believe it is the entire point of these threads.
The point of this thread was to discuss the 17 year-old kid in Italy. But, as usual, the thread was hijacked to fit someone's agenda.
And yet you ignore the slam-dunk evidence I included in that very post?
Then there's the rest of the slam-dunk stuff ya'll likewise ignore . . .
See, this is specifically what I meant when I said, " the pro-WOD people are presented with evidence that they support unconstitutional behavior over and over again, then the pro-WOD folks obfuscate, call names, and generally avoid the evidence at hand".
My evidence was in the post you responded to, yet you didn't even feel a need to respond to that evidence, and then had the cahones to say you hadn't seen *any* evidence at all.
Point for point:
Your use of the term *clearly* showed bias.
The point of the thread was about a 17-year old kid charged with a crime for having pot.
And you somehow think it's off-topic to discuss the drug war?
Your predictions were incorrect, you didn't even mention the real obfuscation you yourself are engaged in, then when I pointed out the thread would degenerate into pro-WOD folks ignoring obvious evidence you said you'd not seen that --
And now Mr. Paulsen proves me right, and you wrong.
Yet you declare victory?
I rest my case.
Well, that's your opinion: Which is wrong.
when I pointed out the thread would degenerate into pro-WOD folks ignoring obvious evidence you said you'd not seen that
I misunderstood your post then, Because on that point we agree. BOTH SIDES routinely ignore evidence which assails their point of view.
And now Mr. Paulsen proves me right, and you wrong.
Wrong again. Read more carefully and you will see this thread has panned out exactly as I said it would. All WOD threads do.
As the one inside your skull, you'd be the last one to recognize your own bias. Your choice of words betrayed your true feelings.
And this thread has *not* gone even remotely as you had said. I don't see the anti-wod side ignoring anything, in one single post. You suggesting they have likewise betrays more about your inner thoughts than you'd like to admit.
Whatever, I don't care, I'm just a master of pointing out the obvious. I'm done with this discussion. I'm off to dinner with the wife.
Wrong again. You simply have no clue. Enjoy dinner.
Oh, since my "true feelings" have become your latest obsession, here ya go: Drugs are for pathetic, loser, mouth-breathing ingrates. Drugs are for idiots. They are a scourge on our society. They destroy familes, lives and homes. I have seen it many times. And the WOD is an extra-constitutional failure which costs me money and chips away at our freedoms one at a time.
I doubt that made it through your reality filter, though. You seem to have it set pretty low today.
Again, you're making things up. That is not in post 3.
This was already shot down by someone.
(Kevin, sorry to bother you, see post #92. Did you address the argument of 18th amendment vs marijuana?)
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