[montag813]

OK...the Committee has narrowed the WTC designs from 8 to 2...One American firm, one German firm. The German firm should not be chosen. To do so, imo, would be an insult to the victims, their families and all Americans. The WTC attack itself was planned in Germany by the Hamburg Al Queda cell, and Germany itself is now a rogue state, hostile to the United States, ally of Iraq, and part of the Axis of Weasel.

Call, fax, email, take to the streets! The WTC plan must be an AMERICAN plan!

[Cyber Liberty]

Do drawings exist of either design? There are none at the excerpt link.

[MadIvan]

In reality neither design should win. They should go right back to the drawing board - the lot of them.

Regards, Ivan

[Monty22]

These designs are deflated, depressing, and just terrible.

Is this the best they could do? One is a ripoff of Krypton, the other a ripoff of the Eiffel Tower.

[areafiftyone]

Already posted HERE

[AmishDude]

When Andrew Wiles proved Fermat's Last Theorem, an English mathematician expressed his pride that Wiles was a fellow Britain working in America. His American colleague replied, "I'm proud, too. He's a Brit, working in America."

[AmishDude]

When Andrew Wiles proved Fermat's Last Theorem, an English mathematician expressed his pride that Wiles was a fellow Britain working in America. His American colleague replied, "I'm proud, too. He's a Brit, working in America."

[Diddle E. Squat]

Both designs are lame, but your logic is utterly stupid.

[Carry_Okie]

One problem: the World Cultural Center design, sucks, bigtime. It's maudlin, wasteful, and dysfunctional.

Start over.

[MadelineZapeezda]

From the thread of the link below.....

Libeskind, who designed Berlin's Jewish Museum,.............hmmmmmm, a German designing a Jewish Museum?????????

[Wphile]

I think they are both awful! I really dislike the THINK one.

Time to go back to the drawing board.

[MadIvan]

This is what I suggest they need for any new design committee:

• One CD of "Rhapsody in Blue".
• One room with all the necessary drawing materials.
• One surround sound system to play the CD in the room.
• Several Marines with loaded weapons standing at the door to tell them to go back and produce something "good" when they try to leave.

Regards, Ivan

[Aliska]

Why can't the American people choose the design? Why some stupid committee with a vested interest?

[CanisRex]

No doubt both of these designs blow but the Hun's suck a little less as much as I hate to say it.

[Zeroisanumber]

If it has to be one of the two, I'd pick the German design. The latticework looks like crap.

[steve-b]

Is the German one the one that looks like a block out of a Minbari city dropped into the middle of New York?

[Dialup Llama]

The empty lattice structures should not be chosen. Then buildings built there should be real buildings with stuff in them.

[colorado tanker]

The German people are not our enemies, but in my experience are quite friendly and supportive of their Cold War ally. Schroeder is trying, in a Clintonesque manner, to latch onto poll numbers showing lack of German support for an Iraq attack to save his unpopular government. As the state election results this week showed, the German people, fooled in the last general election, have vowed not to be fooled again, with SPD losing by landslides.

As was true during the Cold War, the alleged anti-Americanism of most Europeans is exaggerated and what of it there is proves shallow, more emotional than real.

Schroeder is a foolish and weak man; judge the Germans after they have replaced him with a real leader.

[steve-b]

[ZULU]

"Both towers would be the world’s tallest structure"

Too bad. A Tower of Babel type monstrosity is most inappropriate.

A memorial park would be a better choice and a lot cheaper.

[finnman69]

HERE IS WHAT lIEBSKIND'S BUILDINGS REALLY LOOK LIKE! All those arbitrary angles and weird slashings are quite ugly in reality. They all look like wrecked shattered fragments. Not the most appropriate metaphor after the horrible destruction of the WTC.

http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/diary011703.asp

I hope I’m remembering this right, but in I think Evelyn Waugh’s novel Helena there is a scene where the Emperor Constantine summons a team of architects and sculptors to build him a triumphal arch, just like the triumphal arch the Romans built at the peak of their artistic powers two and three centuries before. He wants elaborate carvings, elegant draperies, realistic renditions of his conquering soldiers and conquered enemies.

The architects and sculptors are indignant. They tell him that no up-to-date emperor would want an arch covered with all of that old-fashioned ornament. Modern arches, they say, are clean and pure, stripped of all that classical junk. “But could you do it if you wanted to?” the emperor asks. An embarrassed silence. Finally they admit: No, no we couldn’t.

I keep thinking of that story as I look at the New York Times’ very interesting slide show of proposals for the rebuilding of Ground Zero. The most striking thing about all the designs on view is that none of them seem to show the slightest understanding of how people in cities use public spaces. The design that seems to have most impressed the authorities in New York, by Daniel Liebskind, amounts to basically a giant sunken below-ground public space – ie, just the kind of space that had to be torn up in front of the GM building at Fifth Avenue and 59th Street because nobody wanted to go down there. Liebskind’s space would be even worse. It is bigger for one thing and more isolated – and because it is public property, the police will be unable to shoo away the homeless who will set up a hobo city against its walls.