I've posted this for a couple of reasons... First, it appears that ANSWER is beginning to show its red roots, in the tactics they are using (more now that they have gained some amount of mainstream media "respect" and "credibility") against the very folks who have given their endorsement of ANSWER's so-called peace movement.
Now, I'm not at all surprised that ANSWER was just using the other "peace groups" for furthering their own agenda; but the peace groups are beginning to see that they have allowed a bully to hijack their movement. Unfortunately for them (and for us too, it appears) ANSWER has planted itself firmly at the front of the movement.
I still don't understand how so many people who are leaders of other groups have allowed this to happen; communists have never been known for their honesty and humanitarianism.
The second reason I posted this article is that it gives those of us who care some very good material to work with to form a "lesson plan," if you will, for the other groups who have blindly allied themselves with the communists behind ANSWER. For instance... to those groups who endorsed early and are now reconsidering what they have done... "Why on earth would you guys expect a bunch of communists - who support Kim Jong Il, Milosevich and Castro - to be telling the truth to you when they say they are for peace and against racism?"
The soccer moms for peace, and the pastors for peace, and the quakers for peace and all the rest of them need to be made to think very carefully about who they are forming coalitions with. The communists will talk a benign tale in favor of all kinds of warm and fuzzy things, but historically - once they have consolidated power (even over a "peace movement"), they will wield that power with an iron fist; and peace be damned! What makes the peace crowd think it will be any different with ANSWER? Their behavior thus far, with the organizing and publicity and speakers, etc. is perfect evidence of their true color.
I've rambled. Please read the article through and add your thoughts, comments advice and ideas for those of us who will be going out into the streets and onto radio shows to counter ANSWER's anti-America agenda. Thanks!
To: tgslTakoma
BUMP.
2 posted on
02/03/2003 6:14:22 PM PST by
amused
(Don't call them liberals, socialists or left wing statists is more like it.)
To: tgslTakoma
Charles Kaufman, national co-coordinator of the Nicaragua Network, a group that has worked for social and economic justice in Nicaragua for over 20 yearsMaybe this Nazar guy could use a lesson in media bias. "Worked for social and economic justice?" What the heck does that mean? It would be one thing to print a quote of the guy saying that's what he did, but it's another for a newspaper to print that uncritically.
3 posted on
02/03/2003 6:29:33 PM PST by
xm177e2
To: tgslTakoma
If A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) has the backing of the Masses, where are they in the Peoples Republic of Mass? Aside from a candle lit vigile, there has been no action in Boston.
For all of you MassFReerers that desire some street action E-Mail, Frank Neisser, IAC-Boston.org, he is the boss commie. Tell him that he is the wave of the future.
4 posted on
02/03/2003 6:31:55 PM PST by
Little Bill
(No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R./WWP is a commie front!!!!)
To: tgslTakoma
I find it hard to believe that the NY Times reported on ANSWER's obvious communist/stalinist views.
5 posted on
02/03/2003 6:39:08 PM PST by
Guillermo
(Sic 'Em)
To: tgslTakoma; JamesParmelee; Dave Dilegge; BufordP; ironman; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; leadpenny; ...
DC Chapter Ping List! Some food for thought for the next encounter with the IAC/ANSWER commies.
6 posted on
02/03/2003 6:41:48 PM PST by
Angelwood
(Prayers and condolences to the friends and families of the Columbia Shuttle crew.)
To: tgslTakoma
bump!
To: tgslTakoma
This is a surprisingly factual and fair-minded article, given who wrote it and where it was published. One point, the numbers of attendees, can be established by hard evidence that no one in the minor or major press has discussed. Every organization that wants to conduct a demonstration in Washington (or most other places) must file for a permit, which is never denied due to the politics of the organization. The permits in D.C. include a required upper estimate of the number of attendees. This is an important number because it affects the requirements for spot-a-pots, levels of police protection, bus parking, etc.
ANSWER's permit for its last rally in D.C. stated its own upper limit of attendees at 30,000. As someone who stood in the cold opposite the Marines Barracks at 8th and I Street, S.E., and watched them sashay by, I can guarantee that they had no more than 20,000 at that point. (Also, by spotting certain unique signs and VERY unique individuals, some of the protestors circled the block and came by twice, apparently in an effort to appear to be more than they were.
Congressman Billybob
Click for latest column for UPI, "Those in Peril on the Sea" (Not yet on UPI wire, or FR.)
As the politician formerly known as Al Gore has said, my book, "to Restore Trust in America"
To: tgslTakoma
In any case, Munson claims that the leaders' politics are nevertheless detrimental to the anti-war effort as a whole, as war supporters use ANSWER's political background to smear the peace movement. "The skeletons in their closet add lots of negative baggage to the peace movement," Munson said. "The pro-war side is already mentioning the WWP's long-standing support for anti-U.S. dictators." Great post, this is almost balanced enough for Fox. Who knows how many "Americans" would be there if they didn't have to endorse the answer crowd by thier attendence?
Free Mumia my a**
To: tgslTakoma
The most stunning revalation is the alliance of the labor unions with this riff-raff. I find it hard to believe that the rank and file hate America as much as ANSWER professes.
I find it disgusting that the union leadership has done this most likely without the consent of the membership. If you are a member though, you are sleeping with dogs and will also get fleas.
Where have all the hardhats gone?
13 posted on
02/03/2003 8:36:18 PM PST by
pfflier
To: tgslTakoma
To: tgslTakoma
17 posted on
02/03/2003 9:47:31 PM PST by
Cindy
To: tgslTakoma
I suggest that everyone planning to oppose ANSWER in the street make sure their health insurance is up to date, and that they know how to block punches...
PEACENIK THUGS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!
18 posted on
02/03/2003 9:50:11 PM PST by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(You show me who controls the land, the money, and the weapons, and I'll show you who's in charge!)
To: tgslTakoma; kristinn; Xthe17th; Doctor Raoul; daughterofTGSL; Dave Dilegge
Anyone know the latest news about Iraq-Al Qaeda ties, by any chance?
19 posted on
02/03/2003 9:51:27 PM PST by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(You show me who controls the land, the money, and the weapons, and I'll show you who's in charge!)
To: tgslTakoma
20 posted on
02/03/2003 9:55:17 PM PST by
Cindy
To: tgslTakoma; hellinahandcart; KLT
Thanks for posting this. You might want to put up Brian Becker's missives as well.
Rectitudine Sto. 'Pod
22 posted on
02/04/2003 5:39:31 AM PST by
sauropod
(It's OK to drive an SUV if it helps you get babes.....)
To: tgslTakoma
Good food for thought!
One question that still has not been explored by 'investigative reporters' is the source of the funding for ANSWER et al. As the DC Chapter knows only too well, rallies cost money.
Another thought: Have any of these University types read George Orwell - especially his "Animal Farm." These socialist/communist groups follow the story line of - everyone is equal, but the pigs are just a little more equal - to a T.
Some posters on this thread have referred to the New York Times as the source of this article. It appears to be from the Georgetown University student magazine. I wonder if any of their students attended the March for Life just 4 days after this anti-war rally. I wonder if any Georgetown newspaper mentioned the March for Life. I wonder if there has been any published comparison of the size of the two events.
Jesuits were in the vanguard of the "justice and peace" movement, pro-commie style, in Latin America. But I bet they consider abortion to be just another way to 'help' the poor.
23 posted on
02/04/2003 5:45:46 AM PST by
maica
To: tgslTakoma
Now, I'm not at all surprised that ANSWER was just using the other "peace groups" for furthering their own agenda 'zactly!
Money for jobs!
It's not about war!
Money for housing!
It's not about war!
Money for healthcare!
It's not about war!
SOCIALIST WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION!
IT'S NOT ABOUT WAR!
25 posted on
02/04/2003 6:42:30 AM PST by
BufordP
(If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck - IT'S A COMMIE!)
To: tgslTakoma
It's obvious that these "mobocracy" organizers from ANSWER are anti-American, un-American, anti-freedom, hard core leftists.
"Communism is Fascism with a human face! Marxist ideology promises good. Marxist reality delivers evil." --David Horowitz.
In reference to the misled, misguided, and misinformed participants ("the mob") in the so-called "war protest," I believe Vladmir Lenin stated it properly in two words: "Useful idiots." If you listen closely, you can hear Joseph Stalin laugh from his grave.
29 posted on
02/04/2003 7:41:56 PM PST by
DarthRaven
("All communists are atheists but not atheists are communists!" --Bill Britt)
To: tgslTakoma
This time, we rented our own helicopter in order to take aerial photos of the protest. Afterwards, they were saying 50,000. 60,000, tops," Hackwell recounted. "But when we showed them the photos and threatened to sue, they had to revise their numbers to 150,000." Their "own helicopter", eh? Looks like that Iraqi money goes a long way...
Report: Iraqi spies in U.S (anti war demonstrators)
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