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From NASA engineering film: Sequential pix of debris hitting Columbia's wing
NASA via CNN Online & Yahoo News ^ | 2/3/03 | Wolfstar

Posted on 02/03/2003 4:43:52 PM PST by Wolfstar

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:02:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Released Monday morning, a high-speed NASA engineering film shows a piece of debris falling from the large external tank on the space shuttle Columbia's liftoff and hitting the orbiter's left wing. Bear in mind that these are extreme close-ups of a high-speed event. In the top couple of photos, you see only the top of the broken-off piece. Most of it is in the shadows. Depending on which clip you see and how slowly it is run, to the uninitiated person's eye, it can look either like the debris strikes the wing hard enough to pulverize the debris, or the debris strikes a glancing blow and bounces off in the direction of the main and booster engine exhaust.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: columbia; photos; shuttle
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To: DoughtyOne
Real issues? LOL! If I was going to do that I sure won't ping you or TBLSHOW.
441 posted on 02/04/2003 11:53:37 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Well you've been pinging me back to this thread with your loosing arguements, fella. Or are you going to deny that too?
442 posted on 02/04/2003 11:55:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Arguments? That would imply two sides of a rationale discussion. As I've pointed out, are concepts of reality are worlds apart. You believe NASA should have all the answers to all your questions right now; I think they are in shock.

You believe they are being misleading. I believe they haven't had time to even come to grips with this tragedy.

You believe TBLSHOW is like some family member of a mugging victim looking for the truth. I think he's a fruitloop.

Your believe NASA has a vested interest to cover up the truth, I believe the other astronauts have more ethics then that.

You believe I should be embarrassed to say wait for the professionals and not listen to rumor mongers...naw, our values are worlds apart. Thank God.

443 posted on 02/04/2003 12:03:40 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson; Fred Mertz
keep it up because when I am PROVED right i will expect an apology
444 posted on 02/04/2003 12:06:07 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
Wow, I guess I dodged that one. If we have to wait on you being proved right then I guess I'll never have to apologize. Of course we all know NASA will cover up the truth just to embarrass you.
445 posted on 02/04/2003 12:10:09 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: TLBSHOW
That wack job Jackson is trying to be overly sanctimonious today. He'd like to squelch any discussion and stick his head back in the sand.

Of course, I'll not be satisfied until we get an open and honest investigation. I hope they don't try to stonewall for 3 years or so like they tried to do with the Challenger disaster.

446 posted on 02/04/2003 12:12:56 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: TLBSHOW
when I am PROVED right


447 posted on 02/04/2003 12:15:01 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Fred Mertz
You really should try the sand sometime Fred. It's far better, and a heck of a lot less smelly then where you commonly keep your head. Granted, it might not keep your ears as warm but it's not a dank.
448 posted on 02/04/2003 12:16:35 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson; Fred Mertz
Just like I was right here zogby poll is wrong its not a tie or the economy stupid.. I WILL BE RIGHT ON THIS TOO!
TLBSHOW

notice which freepers were wrong.......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/779527/posts

449 posted on 02/04/2003 12:19:33 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Howlin
Well, it just turned strange. Next he will be proclaiming the truth about the pyramids.
450 posted on 02/04/2003 12:24:52 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
To: DoughtyOne

Arguments? That would imply two sides of a rationale discussion.

I have addressed your points each time I responded.  You are the one who ignored the responses to move on to new territory.  Can't say as I blame you.

As I've pointed out, are concepts of reality are worlds apart.

Did you mean to write "our" instead of "are"?

You believe NASA should have all the answers to all your questions right now;

As a mater of fact I don't, but then I haven't seen you evidence the recognition of one fact up to this point.

What I do expect is forthright truth, something else you have a hard time with.

I think they are in shock.

I said up front that I thought it was a mistake to hold press conferences with questions so early in the game.  NASA should have made a few statements and left the questions until after the funeral.  We played by their rules.  They got caught less than forthright on several occasions.  People spoke out about it.

You believe they are being misleading. I believe they haven't had time to even come to grips with this tragedy.

If they aren't capable of telling the truth, they shouldn't be fielding questions until they can.

You believe TBLSHOW is like some family member of a mugging victim looking for the truth. I think he's a fruitloop.

While you seem obsessed with TBLSHOW, I haven't made one comment regarding his veracity or lack thereof.  I won't.

Your believe NASA has a vested interest to cover up the truth,

With large agencies that depend on government funds, their image is crucial to continued funding.  It's a fact.  Deal with it.

I believe the other astronauts have more ethics then that.

IF you're saying astronauts are the only ones running this investigation, then that's one more froot loop idea you've aired.

You believe I should be embarrassed to say wait for the professionals and not listen to rumor mongers...naw,

Actually what I said was that several claims by NASA were problematic.  Dettermore has publicly agreed with me on one issue.  The media has revealed that photos were taken, which was another stance I had supported.

I do believe you should be embarassed, as well as ashamed to claim that everyone should keep their mouths shut in the face of misguided comments from Dettemore or anyone else at NASA.

our values are worlds apart. Thank God.

Couldn't agree with you more.

443 posted on 02/04/2003 12:03 PM PST by CWOJackson

451 posted on 02/04/2003 12:26:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: CWOJackson
I can't figure out why he thinks that anybody thought Zogby was right.........LOL.

All I can figure is that he cannot prove his remarks about that picture not being fake so he's diverting again.

452 posted on 02/04/2003 12:27:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Like you, lets wait till NASA says its a fake!

Like I said the picture isn't the issue NASA is the real issue!
453 posted on 02/04/2003 12:29:54 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Howlin
LOL!!!
454 posted on 02/04/2003 12:31:38 PM PST by TomServo
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To: TLBSHOW
You seem to have lots of "issues."

You posted a picture that is a fraud, and despite being SHOWN the evidence of your fraud, you continue to stand by your post.

Your credibility is about minus 1000.

455 posted on 02/04/2003 12:31:50 PM PST by Howlin
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To: DoughtyOne
"I do believe you should be embarassed, as well as ashamed to claim that everyone should keep their mouths shut in the face of misguided comments from Dettemore or anyone else at NASA."

Of course not, we should accept the misguided comments by you and TBLSHOW instead. You're so much more infinately qualified in the dynamics of space flight and the space shuttle then the astronauts and NASA.

You really are amusing.

456 posted on 02/04/2003 12:43:25 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Howlin
All I can figure is that he cannot prove his remarks about that picture not being fake so he's diverting again.

The picture is not fake. The description of the picture is totally incorrect and misleading.

457 posted on 02/04/2003 12:44:51 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Howlin
Come on Howlin, it's all a government conspiracy...always is. I had a terrible egg salad sandwich last night and guess what? Yep, government conspiracy.
458 posted on 02/04/2003 12:46:11 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Fred Mertz
That picture as presented as damage to the wing of the space shuttle most certainly IS a fake and a fraud.

I love the way you used the word "incorrect and misleading." I've never seen you use those terms concerning anything YOU think is bogus.

459 posted on 02/04/2003 12:46:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Don't forget, the second and third letter of "misleading" are is, and it all depends on what your daffy-ition of is is.
460 posted on 02/04/2003 12:47:37 PM PST by CWOJackson
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