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Columbia's Problems Began on Left Wing
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Posted on 02/01/2003 4:25:45 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Columbia's Problems Began on Left Wing By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 6:56 p.m. ET

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) -- Investigators trying to figure out what destroyed space shuttle Columbia immediately focused on the left wing and the possibility that its thermal tiles were damaged far more seriously than NASA realized by a piece of debris during liftoff.

Just a little over a minute into Columbia's launch Jan. 16, a chunk of insulating foam peeled away from the external fuel tank and smacked into the ship's left wing.

On Saturday, that same wing started exhibiting sensor failures and other problems 23 minutes before Columbia was scheduled to touch down. With just 16 minutes remaining before landing, the shuttle disintegrated over Texas.

Just a day earlier, on Friday, NASA's lead flight director, Leroy Cain, had declared the launch-day incident to be absolutely no reason for concern. An extensive engineering analysis had concluded that any damage to Columbia's thermal tiles would be minor.

``As we look at that now in hindsight ... we can't discount that there might be a connection,'' shuttle manager Ron Dittemore said on Saturday, hours after the tragedy. ``But we have to caution you and ourselves that we can't rush to judgment on it because there are a lot of things in this business that look like the smoking gun but turn out not even to be close.''

The shuttle has more than 20,000 thermal tiles to protect it from the extreme heat of re-entry into the atmosphere. The black, white or gray tiles are made of a carbon composite or silica-glass fibers and are attached to the shuttle with silicone adhesive.

If a spaceship has loose, damaged or missing tiles, that can change the aerodynamics of the ship and warp or melt the underlying aluminum airframe, causing nearby tiles to peel off in a chain reaction.

If the tiles start stripping off in large numbers or in crucial spots, a spacecraft can overheat, break up and plunge to Earth in a shower of hot metal, much like Russia's Mir space station did in 2001.

Dittemore said that the disaster could have been caused instead by a structural failure of some sort. He did not elaborate.

As for other possibilities, however, NASA said that until the problems with the wing were noticed, everything else appeared to be performing fine.

NASA officials said, for example, that the shuttle was in the proper position when it re-entered the atmosphere on autopilot. Re-entry at too steep an angle can cause a spaceship to burn up.

Law enforcement authorities said was no indication of terrorism; at an altitude of 39 miles, the shuttle was out of range of any surface-to-air missile, one senior government official said.

If the liftoff damage was to blame, the shuttle and its crew of seven may well have been doomed from the very start of the mission.

Dittemore said there was nothing that the astronauts could have done in orbit to fix damaged thermal tiles and nothing that flight controllers could have done to safely bring home a severely scarred shuttle, given the extreme temperatures of re-entry.

The shuttle broke apart while being exposed to the peak temperature of 3,000 degrees on the leading edge of the wings, while traveling at 12,500 mph, or 18 times the speed of sound.

A California Institute of Technology astronomer Anthony Beasley, reported seeing a trail of fiery debris behind the shuttle over California, with one piece clearly backing away and giving off its own light before slowly fading and falling. Dittemore was unaware of the sighting and did not want to speculate on it.

If thermal tiles were being ripped off the wing, that would have created drag and the shuttle would have started tilting from the ideal angle of attack. That could have caused the ship to overheat and disintegrate.

Dittemore said that even if the astronauts had gone out on an emergency spacewalk, there was no way a spacewalker could have safely checked under the wings, which bear the brunt of heat re-entry and have reinforced protection.

Even if they did find damage, there was nothing the crew could have done to fix it, he said.

``There's nothing that we can do about tile damage once we get to orbit,'' Dittemore said. ``We can't minimize the heating to the point that it would somehow not require a tile. So once you get to orbit, you're there and you have your tile insulation and that's all you have for protection on the way home from the extreme thermal heating during re-entry.''

The shuttle was not equipped with its 50-foot robot arm because it was not needed during this laboratory research mission, and so the astronauts did not have the option of using the arm's cameras to get a look at the damage.

NASA did not request help in trying to observe the damaged area with ground telescopes or satellites, in part because it did not believe the pictures would be useful, Dittemore.

Long-distance pictures did not help flight controllers when they wanted to see the tail of space shuttle Discovery during John Glenn's flight in 1998; the door for the drag-chute compartment had fallen off seconds after liftoff.

It was the second time in just four months that a piece of fuel-tank foam came off during a shuttle liftoff. In October, Atlantis lost a piece of foam that ended up striking the aft skirt of one of its solid-fuel booster rockets. At the time, the damage was thought to be superficial.

Dittemore said this second occurrence ``is certainly a signal to our team that something has changed.''


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KEYWORDS: columbiatragedy; feb12003; nasa; spaceshuttle; sts107
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To: csvset
Isn't it true, that the shuttle bay has a boom, that can be equiped with a camera? I find it hard to beleive that NASA engineers would have such a cavalier attitude about the damage done to the left wing at lift off. Seems to me they simply crossed their fingers and hoped for the best.
181 posted on 02/01/2003 6:58:45 PM PST by BOOTSTICK
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To: Ditter
Such a sad, sad day.
182 posted on 02/01/2003 6:58:53 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Centurion2000
About 60 days, unless one is all ready to go at the pad and we don't ever put two on the pads at once. The original goal was 24 hour notice to launch, but we never did it.
183 posted on 02/01/2003 6:58:55 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: Swordmaker
In fact, the guy that said this really is rocket science, is the one that said they couldn't lighten the load.
184 posted on 02/01/2003 6:59:30 PM PST by OReilly
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To: BOOTSTICK
No arm on this flight. It might have been able to see the bottom side, but I kinda doubt it.
185 posted on 02/01/2003 7:03:09 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: OReilly
All of your statements have been made by Non Auronautical [sic] Engineers, that were not on the NASA Defense team... ...All the Defenders have said they couldn't lighten the load....etc.

Oreilly, You are amazing. You can't even SPELL Aeronautical... and now you seem to think you are one.

Please tell us how you would "lighten the load"? What, exactly would you jetison, and how, precisely, would you accomplish this?

186 posted on 02/01/2003 7:04:29 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profits!)
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To: OReilly
Just heard on CBS News on radio: four confirmed recoveries of human remains. Presumably includes the arm and hand reported earlier.

Does the fact that these remains survived the fall to earth tell us anything about the accident?

188 posted on 02/01/2003 7:05:05 PM PST by aristeides
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To: BOOTSTICK
Here's my idea for checking out the tile situation: the Hubble telescope -- turn it around and point it down for a look see. The gotcha problem: Hubble was never designed to follow objects traveling at that speed. I suspect that getting ground 'scopes to do so might be more possible -- but difficult.

Still -- why not investigate and try. *sigh*

189 posted on 02/01/2003 7:05:25 PM PST by alancarp (hindsight is 20/20, but useless at a funeral)
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To: Swordmaker
Can somebody explain why this flight had so much greater a load than earlier ones? Of just what did the load consist?
190 posted on 02/01/2003 7:07:03 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Swordmaker
Please tell us how you would "lighten the load"? What, exactly would you jetison, and how, precisely, would you accomplish this?


Let me get you on the record... we had over two weeks and you said we could not inspect the tiles or lighten the load? Correct? No, I'm not one of your Fly-boy engineers, but I am glad I'm not defending this...
191 posted on 02/01/2003 7:09:09 PM PST by OReilly
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To: OReilly
No, I don't think that "off-scale low" can be interpreted as being a possible indication of "off-scale high". Any reasonable instrumentation system can distinguish between the two conditions. Certainly, the interpretation placed on the "off-scal low" indication at the 3:30 EST press conference was that instrumentation had failed.
192 posted on 02/01/2003 7:09:20 PM PST by bagman
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To: aristeides
Does the fact that these remains survived the fall to earth tell us anything about the accident?

It tells us of the violence of the forces acting at that speed once the orbiter lost aerodynamic attitude control. My suspicion is that those forces killed the crew instantly (not the incineration of the orbiter).

Beyond that, the crew capsule area probably survived for a while -- actually a bit surprised that it hasn't been located yet... but then again.

193 posted on 02/01/2003 7:09:29 PM PST by alancarp (hindsight is 20/20, but useless at a funeral)
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To: OReilly
In fact, the guy that said this really is rocket science, is the one that said they couldn't lighten the load.

OReilly, tell us how to lighten the load... and do it without using "rocket science."

Sometimes, OReilly, there REALLY IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

194 posted on 02/01/2003 7:09:38 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profits!)
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To: bagman
I will remember your absolute statement on this... I hope you do too...
195 posted on 02/01/2003 7:11:11 PM PST by OReilly
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To: Swordmaker
Sometimes, OReilly, there REALLY IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

Even if that's true (and I don't know how we can determine that as long as we don't know what the load was,) it doesn't mean that there was nothing that could have been done before the launch, like put a smaller load on the shuttle.

196 posted on 02/01/2003 7:12:21 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Swordmaker
Sometimes, OReilly, there REALLY IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

Why does that sound like a management excuse to most people?

197 posted on 02/01/2003 7:13:26 PM PST by OReilly
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To: aristeides
Does the fact that these remains survived the fall to earth tell us anything about the accident?

Well, it tells us that the velocity at break-up was below the velocity that would result in total burn-up... but then we already knew that.

198 posted on 02/01/2003 7:13:43 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profits!)
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To: Swordmaker
but then we already knew that.

A lot of people earlier today were quite dogmatic in making assertions that body parts could not possibly survive such an accident.

199 posted on 02/01/2003 7:16:18 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Swordmaker
Sometimes, OReilly, there REALLY IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE. <<<<<<< Why does that sound like a management excuse to most people?

Combine that excuse with the statement that the reason they did not check for damage was, that they did not have tile replacement capacity in orbit.

200 posted on 02/01/2003 7:18:11 PM PST by OReilly
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