California: Planners seek to ease Prop. 13 rules

Orange County Register ^ | Feb 1, 2003

[John Jorsett]

SACRAMENTO

[John Jorsett]

Ping. Looks like we're in an eternal battle with the forces of darkness tax-raising.

[Commander8]

Well,
Looks like it's time for another tax revolt in California.

[sd-joe]

"Characterizing it as a modest change"

Modest change. Sure, all it does is remove a very important protection for the taxpaying propery owners, to keep them from getting raped by those who endlessly want to raise taxes.

Modest change, my butt.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[vger]

Representatives of nearly 5,000 California urban, environmental and transportation planners.....

Note these are not elected representatives, but then noting the elected representatives (rat majority) have decided to increase vehicle registration fees (taxes) by over 100% without a state constitutionally mandated two-thirds majority (what are laws to rats anyway)it looks like this state may just as well let anybody run it.

[elbucko]

Representatives of nearly 5,000 California urban, environmental and transportation planners say they'll fight this year for changes in Proposition 13...

I translate that introduction to mean that these are people who receive their livelihood from the government, either municipal, county, state or federal and want more money to spend. Their health insurance, their vacations, their retirement are all funded by government sources and they cannot understand why anyone wouldn't want their taxes raised. After all, when taxes go up, so do their wages/salaries due to built in COLA's.

Hey! why don't we just tax ourselves to PARADISE!

[FITZ]

you are essentially allowing those who don't own property to levy taxes on those who do," said Jon Coupal

Why were non-taxpayers ever allowed to vote in the first place? It's not their money that gets spent.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Representatives of nearly 5,000 California urban, environmental and transportation planners say they'll fight this year for changes in Proposition 13 to raise more money for parks, transit-oriented growth and farmland preservation.

Reads:

Representatives of nearly 5,000 California urban, environmental and transportation planners demagogues say they'll fight this year for changes in Proposition 13 to raise steal more money for parks, transit-oriented growth and farmland preservation their leeching, non-profit ponzi schemes.

[socal_parrot]

I heard last night on Al Rantel's program here in So Cal, maybe it was posted here before, that 45,000 Californian's pay 33% of the state's income tax. That's amazing.

[elbucko]

Well, Looks like it's time for another tax revolt in California.

Quote:

"Then the new Los Angeles County property tax assessments came out. The average assessment would increase 125%. Some would triple. Finally, in the weeks leading up to the election, the state surplus was reveled to be $5 billion. The anti-Prop 13 campaign collapsed.

From "Revolt of the Haves" by Robert Kuttner.

Time to rebel or time to leave. California is doomed.

[Amerigomag]

Prop. 13 has confused the state's tax system

Limiting the ability of elected Democrats to gogue property owners is "confusing"?. Seems a simple concept to me. Look elsewhere to fund your utopian state.

disrupted state development patterns to encourage sprawl

The state has a "development pattern"? My guess is the group is complaining that resonable taxes are not forcing sale of land to developers near the urban margins

and created a severe housing shortage.

4 million illegal aliens (and their progeny), in the last twenty years, have created the housing shortage, not prpoerty tax relief.

[John Jorsett]

Modest change, my butt.

Perhaps Jonathan Swift is among them. He's the satirist who authored "A Modest Proposal," in which he advocated the Irish devouring their children so that they wouldn't be a burden to their parents or country.

[Dan(9698)]

so --- fire the planners.

[John Jorsett]

the elected representatives (rat majority) have decided to increase vehicle registration fees (taxes) by over 100% without a state constitutionally mandated two-thirds majority

You might be interested in this press conference by Tom McClintock detailing how the Republicans are going to fight this increase.

[longtermmemmory]

Good point. Why are non-property owners allowed to vote on property taxes. In early colonial days didn't you need to be a property owner to vote? Perhaps we should just have government workers NOT vote as a conflict of intererest. (ok a bit of sarcasm here)

It does however, point out why the founding fathers did NOT want a pure democracy. The rif raf vote themselves access to the national treasury.

[sd-joe]

"in which he advocated the Irish devouring their children so that they wouldn't be a burden to their parents or country."

LOL, yeah it just depends on what the meaning of modest is.

That is probably what we will have to do to pay the taxes these jerks want.

[Lizavetta]

A politician who robs Peter to pay Paul WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE SUPPORT OF PAUL. And there are a sh*tload more Pauls in California than just about anywhere.

[Publius6961]

Sounds like a few bureaucrats are ready for a new career?

Names, please...

[Lancey Howard]

"There's not a lot of incentive for cities to build houses...."What does this mean?
I am in Pennsylvania and things work differently here. In Pennsylvania, homes are built by builders who develop parcels of land and then sell these newly constructed homes to homebuyers.

Representatives of nearly 5,000 California urban, environmental and transportation planners...

Bury these sick scumbags - - do not give them an inch.
I recommend keeping them busy with lawsuits.