Iraqis Call Shuttle Disaster God's Vengeance

Reuters ^ | 2.1.03

[mhking]

Per Reuters:

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Iraqis Call Shuttle Disaster God's Vengeance

Sat February 1, 2003 02:08 PM ET
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Immediate popular reaction in Baghdad on Saturday to the loss of the U.S. space shuttle Columbia and its seven-member crew -- including the first Israeli in space -- was that its was God's retribution on Americans. "We are happy that it broke up," government employee Abdul Jabbar al-Quraishi said.

"God wants to show that his might is greater than the Americans. They have encroached on our country. God is avenging us," he said.

Car mechanic Mohammed Jaber al-Tamini noted Israeli air force Colonel Ilan Ramon was among the dead when the shuttle broke up shortly before its return to earth.

"Israel launched an aggression on us when it raided our nuclear reactor without any reason (in 1981), now time has come and God has retaliated to their aggression," Tamini said.

[Howlin]

Saddam isn't even mentioned in the article.

You cannot possibly be this out of touch, can you?

Nothing gets printed from Iraq without his permission.

[Texasforever]

Nothing gets printed from Iraq without his permission.

Now,now don't "propagandize". JD is very concerned about all the “progandizin” goin on round heah

[alaskanfan]

Welcome aboard young man.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #1

Iraqi regime is unwittingly giving U.S. military an extra motivation.

[jd777]

Thank you for your considerate reply. Yes, I believe this is propaganda. And you're right it wasn't delivered by a pentagon spokesperson. But that would hardly have been effective propaganda. You would have spotted it, immediately. I support the war. I believe in its objective. At the same time, I recognize that there is considerable domestic anxiety about the loss of civilian life that will inevitably take place when we invade. This "story" which appeared right after our tragic accident at a time of national sadness, in your words, "inflames" american anger at the average iraqi citizenry. It serves a purpose, not to inform, but to incite. That is propganda. And of course right on cue, freepers started demanding retribution. Perhaps now we'll feel less anxious about killing 100,000 iraqi, say 3 weeks from now...

I would also remind you that while this war isn't exclusively about oil, several European Oil companies (BP/Amoco and Royal Dutch Shell) stand to make tens of Billions from deliveries of the procured iraqi oil reserves. Reuters is a London based News Service and MONEY MAKES THE MARE GO ROUND!

[MadJack]

I've been looking at Arab, etc. media this morning. Some don't mention it at all. Our dear friends the Saudis (arabnews.com)got ahold of some anti-nuclear clown and quoted him as questioning NASA's warning to stay away from debris..."What are they hiding?",intimating there was some sort of Star Wars related nuclear payload, and using the opportunity to do some Bush bashing. Interestingly, one of the Evil Axis, the Iranians,(IRNA.com) has a statement expressing condolences and specifically differentiates politics from science and space exploration. Anybody seen anything else?

[Centurion2000]

Nukes don't leave casings, fragments, or other forensic evidence.

Actually they do .... of course I'm all for nuking Iraq and the rest of the Middle East (minus a sliver on the western Med coast) back to the stone age so no problem with me :)

[Centurion2000]

It will be like it was in February, March and April of 1945 as U.S. and British troops, in their mad dash across Germany, stumbled on concentration camps with their skeletal survivors. "

I think you're right. Unfortunately there will still be idiots (liberals) that will obfuscate, lie and fabricate stories to confuse the issue and flat out deny that these things are happening.

Relations with the Franco-German Weasel axis will cool considerably after we get done looking.

[lavaroise]

Time to sober them up from their stunned supor of hatred.

[hoosierskypilot]

we will be gorged with revelations from Iraq

Won't make any difference. Traitors-R-Us (Hillary, Sean Penn, et al), will say the evidence was planted.

[Cachelot]

It's time to take these parasitic predators out

Indeed.

However, I looked in on LibertyForum a while ago - you know, the "Libertarian" forum of choice. They were just as busy gloating as Saddam is.

Not all parasitic predators needing to be taken out reside in foreign lands, and a war against Saddam may turn into ugly surprises if the fifth column is left to its own devices.

[A CA Guy]

I do not connect this disaster of Columbia with the wrath of God.
There was a Freeper who mentioned to us on a post that America may have lost the Blessings and Protection of God's umbrella due to our behavior in the killing of millions of babies in the United States with abortion.
I think they have a true point on that issue. I do not believe though that this disaster was an example of the removal of that umbrella of protection.

Before Roe v. Wade, abortion did not have national approval by the law of the land of the USA.

God blesses us if we follow the Ten Commandments and love Him.
As a nation, we have been killing babies (His Creations) for decades and the pile of babies would be in the many tens of millions.
With all the murder of innocent babies, by what logic do we expect the same blessings and protections of God as when we don't kill the innocent?
Is there any show of hands here at FR that would suggest God jumps up and down for joy seeing a woman have an abortion?
Would God call an abortion a great thing or an abomination in His eyes?
It is not illogical or out of left field to realize that we lose God's blessings and protection when we murder the innocent.
I think ONE evidence of the lifting of that blessing or protection would be in the decay and moral decline of our society.

My heart and prayers do go out to our fallen heroes who died the other day.
I don't think that disaster was some form of vengeance from God. I think they are with God right now. May they rest in peace and may God give their families the strength to survive this in the best way.

[A CA Guy]

Actually you are the one "full-of-it", my view was the other Freeper had a point about there being an "Umbrella of Protection" over the people who follow God's law.
They were also right in that with abortion we probably have left ourselves without that protection as a nation.

That was the only part of their issue I addressed. I never made any connection of a lack of protection and THIS tragic disaster.

I NEVER thought that God probably executed our heroes in space as you would like to suggest I believe. That is a totally mistaken and stupid interpretation on your part. Your are 100% wrong! In my years of posting here on various topics, none of what I have ever written would ever suggest your claims or such a way of thinking by me.

Put a lid on it and move on. You took something I addressed in in part to another Freeper as meaning a whole other thing.

I just pray to God you are not doing this same kind of thing in your GOP leadership role.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

So, if (in your view) God has lifted His hand of protection over this nation, how do you think that lack of protection is manifesting itself? You seem to want to have it both ways.

And by the way - you never did adequately explain why bad things happened in this country prior to Roe v. Wade, if that was some sort of spiritual turning point.

[Catspaw]

Once again, you're contradicting yourself.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I just pray to God you are not doing this same kind of thing in your GOP leadership role.

Nice. Has it escaped your grasp that those expressing this idea that God has turned His back on Americans because of Roe v. Wade have been rebuked by far more people than just Chad?

[Howlin]

I cannot believe this is still going on! Is this the "America is lost" theory, or the "It's Because there was a Jew onboard" theory?

I just cannot keep up.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Let me see if I can spell it out for you, and anyone else who actually gives a rip...

In several posts, Joyful1 said...

"Even our enemies can speak truth. If this wasn't terrorism, then I believe God is removing His protection from America because of our heavy heavy sins."

Which can only be interpreted as to mean that this tragedy occured because of 'our sins'. In reply to that post YOU said...

To: joyful1

You have a point...******ABORTION******

86 posted on 02/01/2003 11:35 AM PST by A CA Guy

Which any reasonable-minded person would take to mean "Yes, I agree. And the sin is Abortion". If you meant it ANY other way, then you obvoiusly had a problem expressing what you REALLY meant...

Yeah, I'm 'full of it' all right...

[dsutah]

No doubt that crowd(not all of Hollywood)would blame it on us; and say that we made the 'poor Iraqis behave this way'!

[Mustang]

"OPERATION: RAGHEAD BEGONE"...has just become...

"OPERATION: SAND TO GLASS"....

Mustang sends...with hope this comes to fruition.