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Let me see if I can spell it out for you, and anyone else who actually gives a rip...

In several posts, Joyful1 said...

"Even our enemies can speak truth. If this wasn't terrorism, then I believe God is removing His protection from America because of our heavy heavy sins."

Which can only be interpreted as to mean that this tragedy occured because of 'our sins'. In reply to that post YOU said...

To: joyful1

You have a point...******ABORTION******

86 posted on 02/01/2003 11:35 AM PST by A CA Guy

Which any reasonable-minded person would take to mean "Yes, I agree. And the sin is Abortion". If you meant it ANY other way, then you obvoiusly had a problem expressing what you REALLY meant...

Yeah, I'm 'full of it' all right...

I totally agree with that Freeper that we have lost a measure of our protection and blessing due to SIN, which I define almost exclusively as ***ABORTION*** on a mass scale. Between 700,000 and 1.5 million killed a year for decades.

The killing of millions upon millions of innocent lives that far surpasses Germany's extermination capacity in WW2 is not going to gain us ANY blessings, protection or favor by GOD! This is no secret! Nobody, despite their pride can deny this fact.

The Freeper did have a valid Christian point that perhaps some stuff happens now that we avoided before with God's umbrella of protection. This is not an unheard of concept and is spoken about all the time throughout the Christian faiths in this country.

The concept of God's "Umbrella of protection" was first presented to me in Church when I was a very young child of perhaps 5 years old, not by the Taliban.

It is NOT unheard of for Satan (In this case Iraq who worships the god of the moon, Allah), to be able to point out our "great sins".
When other evil nations point out our own horrible sin of mass abortion, the point is not "wrong" because the source was evil.
Neither does it mean that a nation that is evil on a grand scale will triumph over a good nation with a sinful anchor around it's foot that drags it down.

The Freeper had true point to make though.
What are we being left open for by having major sins in our country? I added ABORTION, because that is THE MAJOR sin that would be the catalyst for the removal of protection.

Nobody I know of though suggested God made this disaster happen except the evil ones in IRAQ.

Yes, when you suggest I would say God "CAUSED" this, you are totally full-of-it.

On the other hand there is a valid religious issue as to what we are being left wide open for if we lose God's protection? It is natural that when any national disaster hits, many religious folks are left to wonder if this would have been avoided by us being more faithful to God.
Pondering this does not suggest that either the other Freeper or I think GOD CAUSED THIS TO HAPPEN. That is in very bad form by you.