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Columbia Discussion thread
Feb 1, 2003

Posted on 02/01/2003 8:41:00 AM PST by Admin Moderator

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Mission - sts107


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Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!

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KEYWORDS: columbia; columbiatragedy; feb12003; india; israel; nasa; shuttle; spaceshuttle; sts107; unitedstates
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To: Tree of Liberty
Near Hemville, TX
1,021 posted on 02/01/2003 2:47:07 PM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: Tree of Liberty
God bless their soul...
1,022 posted on 02/01/2003 2:48:35 PM PST by Dog
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To: Tree of Liberty
"God bless and bless and bless their souls, and rest their souls in the morning."
1,023 posted on 02/01/2003 2:49:35 PM PST by lainie
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To: Dog
amen
1,024 posted on 02/01/2003 2:50:04 PM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: Conservababe
All right, we get your drift. Drop it, already, please.
1,025 posted on 02/01/2003 2:50:16 PM PST by ChemistCat (We should have had newer, safer, better, more efficient ships by now, damn it.)
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To: Tree of Liberty
I heard thigh bone. I think it's Hemphill, TX. Can check.
Not that, it matters. (sigh)
1,026 posted on 02/01/2003 2:53:22 PM PST by valleygal (Please sign www.PetitionOnline.com/adalert for missing adults.)
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To: Tree of Liberty
People are holding a vigil at a scene of wreckage .....amazing scene to see people in a bank parking paying their respect to a piece of debris..
1,027 posted on 02/01/2003 2:53:42 PM PST by Dog
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Someone posted earlier that God is speaking to us today and I held back saying anything, because I knew if I did, all that would come out was "and just what exactly do you think is being said?" Because, I don't know why. I guess sometimes we feel disbelief and anger before we become philosophical. Then there are people out there saying this is God's vengeance and retribution in action.

It all suddenly feels very epic.
1,028 posted on 02/01/2003 2:54:18 PM PST by lainie
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To: sciencediet
I listened to the news conference a little while ago and, for the life of me, no one has asked the question that I would have asked. Why didn't they dock the shuttle at the space station to take a look at the possible damage caused by the foam that hit the wing in takeoff.

Maybe this question has come up earlier in this conversation, but I sure would like to know the reasons why. At the news conferece, they said it couldn't be repaired, plus they didn't have the arm installed on this shuttle for them to explore the possible damage. If there was the slighted question about the damage, why didn't they send it to the space station? Why take the risks?
1,030 posted on 02/01/2003 2:54:50 PM PST by spokanite
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To: seamole
Possibly unrelated? yes. Probably unrelated? I doubt it.
1,031 posted on 02/01/2003 2:55:55 PM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: Tree of Liberty
Residents Find Shuttle Debris in Texas

By PAM EASTON
ASSOCIATED PRESS

NACOGDOCHES, Texas (AP) - Bits of machinery and pieces of metal were found strewn across a wide area of east Texas after the space shuttle Columbia broke apart. One metal piece crashed through the roof of a dentist's office and some human remains were found on a rural road.

Police and NASA officials warned residents the shuttle debris could be toxic and should not be touched. The Environmental Protection Agency prepared to coordinate a cleanup, and the Army's 1st Cavalry Division deployed a task force - including helicopters and military police - to help search for wreckage.

"It's all over Nacogdoches," said James Milford, owner of a barber shop in downtown. "There are several little pieces, some parts of machinery ... there's been a lot of pieces about 3 feet wide."

On the edge of downtown Nacogdoches, 135 miles northeast of Houston, a National Guardsman stood watch over a steel rod with silver bolts that landed in the grass outside a yard. People streamed up to take photos of the debris.

NASA lost communication with Columbia as it soared above Texas. Debris was reported in several east Texas counties and along the Texas-Louisiana line.

In Hemphill near the Louisiana line, hospital employee Mike Gibbs reported finding what appeared to be a charred torso, thigh bone and skull on a rural road near what was believed to be other debris. Billy Smith, a Texas Department of Public Safety spokesman, confirmed the find. He said authorities had roped off the area and were collecting evidence.

A fisherman from DeRidder, La., Elbie Bradley, reported hearing a falling object splash into the Toledo Bend reservoir, which straddles the border.

"I thought it was an airplane that hit the lake," he said. "Before the piece came down, it sounded like the start of a big motor without an exhaust on it."

In Nacogdoches, Jeff Hancock, a 29-year-old dentist, said he found a chunk of debris in his office.

"There's actually a piece in my office. It came through the roof of my office. It's about a footlong metal bracket," he said.

Ed Rohner, Nacogdoches airport manager, said some type of tank ended up on a runway.

"We have one large, several foot in diameter, some type of tank that was in the middle of a runway," Rohner said. "We've got pieces of debris all along the entrance road to the airport," Rohner said.

R.T. Gregory, a waiter at Aubrey's Cafe in Nacogdoches said he and about 50 other people gathered around a taped-off piece of metal debris in the parking lot of the Commercial Bank of Texas. He said the debris was about 4 feet long and 4 feet wide.

Nacogdoches Fire Chief Thomas Lambert told Dallas-Fort Worth television WFAA he found a half-moon shaped piece, 5 to 5 1/2 feet long.

"This piece I'm looking at does have severe burn marks on it, like you take a blow torch and put it on metal until it turns a kind of a bluish-greenish color," he said.

Authorities were investigating what they thought could be a piece of the shuttle next to the driveway to Rice High School along busy Interstate 45.

"It looks like a piece of tile, said Rice Police Chief James McDuffie. Rice is located just north of Corsicana.

Authorities ordered people to stay 100 yards away from the debris because of contamination fears. However, a number of Nacogdoches residents were picking up pieces and turning them in to law enforcement officers, authorities said.

The Cherokee County Sheriff's Office had received more than 30 confirmed reports of fallen debris, Campbell said. The items ranged in size from small pieces of tile to 2-by-2 foot pieces of metal.

"We've had people bring pieces of it up here to the office," said Sheriff James Campbell. "We certainly want to discourage that.

Cherokee County is in East Texas, about halfway between Tyler and Lufkin.

Residents in southern Arkansas also were warned to stay away from any debris, although there were no confirmed reports of any falling there.

1,032 posted on 02/01/2003 2:57:39 PM PST by dep
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To: Tree of Liberty
Hemphill is on the TX/LA line.
1,033 posted on 02/01/2003 2:59:01 PM PST by valleygal (Please sign www.PetitionOnline.com/adalert for missing adults.)
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To: spokanite
you can't just up and change all orbital parameters like that. to do so would require far more fuel than the shuttle carries.

dep

1,034 posted on 02/01/2003 2:59:21 PM PST by dep
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To: All

WELCOME HOME

it's been a sad day....

1,035 posted on 02/01/2003 2:59:38 PM PST by The Mayor
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To: Tree of Liberty
I just heard the most ridiculous thing on CNN. Gary Tuchman was interviewing this family who was visiting Cape Canaveral or Cape Kennedy. They were locals who just went there to pay their respects. When they got to the father, he said he was a history teacher at a local school and said he hoped that the U.S. would offer Iraq to take an Iraqi up in space one day as a gesture of goodwill. Man. Can you see that happening in the Saddam era? Ridiculous.

1,036 posted on 02/01/2003 3:00:41 PM PST by Vol2727
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To: prairiebreeze
Photos of the Columbia crew look eerily similar to the photos of the 1986 crew from Challenger...Can some one post side by side photos of Laurel Clark and Christa McAuliffe..They look like sisters!


1,037 posted on 02/01/2003 3:05:16 PM PST by jaz.357
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To: Vol2727
When they got to the father, he said he was a history teacher at a local school and said he hoped that the U.S. would offer Iraq to take an Iraqi up in space one day as a gesture of goodwill. Man. Can you see that happening in the Saddam era? Ridiculous.

I would've been hard-put not to slap that history teacher silly.

1,038 posted on 02/01/2003 3:05:27 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Vol2727
CNN also read a statement from the Palestinian Authority....Arafart so sorry for the loss..yeah right!
1,039 posted on 02/01/2003 3:05:41 PM PST by pitinkie
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To: spokanite
It would not have been impossible to repair some damage. Tiles routinely fall off and NASA said they viewed the takeoff and decided no damage was done. They wrote if off. Could it be pilot error? If the shuttle was just a little off attitude it would have devastating effects.

The issues are the anomalies were the left side on takeoff and left side on re-entry.

1,040 posted on 02/01/2003 3:08:48 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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