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To: jjm2111
If the homosexual clothing designers did not design clothing that women found attractive, women would not buy it. Women like the clothing.

This would be true if and only if the paradigm for women buying clothes was stripped down so much it no longer resembled reality. Do you dispute the notion that many women, especially the upscale, haute-couture sect, buy clothes they may not intrinsically like just to have whatever's the hottest, latest, most trend-setting fashion of the moment?

Do you dispute the notion that part of what fuels the fashion industry is the desire of women with great disposable incomes to have the latest and greatest and most cutting-edge?

Do you dispute the notion that fashion eventually trickles down through the economic classes, albeit redesigned from the extreme just so much that it's slightly more in tune with the less-radical tastes and sensibilities of the Great Unwashed?

Do you dispute the notion that the Great Unwashed wants to appear like or feel like it isn't the Great Unwashed?

Contrast this with the homosexual inspired male clothing that you see in GQ, Maxxim et. al. How many straight guys do YOU see (outside of NYC, LA, and SF) walking around in things like leather pants and shirts with ruffles? Even in NYC it's not THAT common. Straight men (generally) don't like wearing those types of clothes.

Homosexuals and women have similar taste in clothing. How many guys can attest to their girlfriends/wives coaxing them in to wearing more outlandish and/or exotic fare? The way homo designers design clothing and their attraction to men have nothing to do with one another.

These two paragraphs do more for my point than yours. The great majority of American men are not homosexual and don't want to appear as such, and that's precisely why men don't respond to the fashion industry the way women do.

65 posted on 01/31/2003 8:03:49 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Do you dispute the notion that many women, especially the upscale, haute-couture sect, buy clothes they may not intrinsically like just to have whatever's the hottest, latest, most trend-setting fashion of the moment?

Yes, I do that notion. I never had a woman tell me, "I hate this, but it is so in right now..."

Do you dispute the notion that part of what fuels the fashion industry is the desire of women with great disposable incomes to have the latest and greatest and most cutting-edge?

Yes, I do dispute that notion. Women (in general) just want to look nice. Those with great disposable incomes (at least the ones I know) really do not know what they want.

Do you dispute the notion that fashion eventually trickles down through the economic classes, albeit redesigned from the extreme just so much that it's slightly more in tune with the less-radical tastes and sensibilities of the Great Unwashed?

I do know that fashion trends trickle down. I don't really know what what your getting at here.

I don't understand your usage of the "Great Unwashed". Almost all people in the U.S. wash regularly. Are you using the term to refer to "the masses" It's hard to pin down "the masses" in this country. The middle class is too big.

These two paragraphs do more for my point than yours. The great majority of American men are not homosexual and don't want to appear as such, and that's precisely why men don't respond to the fashion industry the way women do.

From this you seem to be saying women DO want to appear homosexual....

I'm not sure where we're heading with this here. My point is homosexual clothing designers do not want women to look like boys. They just design clothing women might find attractive. Since their thoughts are more feminine, their designs are more feminine. Women are attracted to the feminine clothing. Guys, not being feminine (for the most part) are not attracted to similar clothing.

What is your point in short? That homosexual designers DO want women to look like little boys?

Oh, btw, are you a lawyer?

77 posted on 01/31/2003 8:22:59 AM PST by jjm2111
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