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Inadequately Trained Troops !!Roger Hedgecock speaks out on the Sierra Club
January 30, 2003 | Myself

Posted on 01/30/2003 5:06:56 PM PST by fight_truth_decay

During the EIB third hour, Roger Hedgecock, sitting in for Rush, spoke with Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), Chariman of the Armed Services Committee, about environmental regulations that hinder training of marine forces at Camp Pendleton in California. Marines practicing amphibious assaults land on the beach, then pile onto a bus for the next phase of exercises so they don't harm the endangered California gnatcatcher, a small songbird.

Roger quoted Rep. Joel Hefley, R-Colo., chairman of the House Armed Services subcommittee on readiness, who plans to begin hearings next month on how endangered species issues have impaired military training."We want to train people the way they're going to fight," Hefley said. "You don't land there and get on a bus and drive to where you're going to shoot.

Roger went on to say environmentalist groups are endangering the lives of our Marines, as their final training takes place off Camp Pendleton before leaving for Iraq. This training is the most important a Marine can receive when preparing for combat when moving from sea to land in preparation for combat. This is the time most casualties occur!

Groups like the Sierra Club are giving more importance to the life of the gnatcatcher considered an endangered bird then our own Marines. Millions of these endangered birds are found in Mexico, with Camp Pendleton being a northern-most home for their habitat.

A Sierra Club card toting ex-military call-in suggested other areas off California to conduct these "life saving" maneuvers. All are areas protecting seals or even more protected birds, Roger replied.

The Air Force electronically tags gulf sturgeon to make sure they are not around when live ordnance is detonated over the Gulf of Mexico. The Marine Corps dispersed nests away from training operations to increase the population of red-cockaded woodpeckers in eastern North Carolina.

On the Pentagon's wish list are several provisions to lessen the burden of having to protect endangered species' "critical habitat" for survival, and broader exemptions from having to meet Clean Air Act standards during wartime and other national emergencies.

"They don't need the exemptions which they seek," said Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., who has been a frequent critic of military attempts to bypass federal environmental laws. "They are not only irresponsible but they seek to evade normal, proper environmental supervision."

More conservative leadership of House and Senate environmental panels has raised expectations at the Defense Department that Congress will grant the military more exemptions from environmental laws.

"We are more hopeful. We hope it works in our favor but we're not going to take anything for granted," Pentagon spokesman Glenn Flood said Tuesday. "Our expectations are high. That's not to say our work is going to be easy." (Or is it already too late!)

Note:Roger Hedgecock was once a card carrying Sierra Club member. He is no longer a member.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: duncanhunter; environmentalists; rogerhedgecock; sierraclub
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To: Mudboy Slim
"Roger Hedgecock was once a card carrying Sierra Club member"

As much as I hate to admit it, I was also at one time.

21 posted on 01/30/2003 10:10:26 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: blackbart.223; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; snopercod
"I was also at one time."

You don't have to be ashamed to admit it. A lot of good Americans and Californians have been members before it went leftist and litiguous to a nonsensical extreme. I've often wonderered why these good commonsense conservationist ever let these shrill militant leftist litigators and allegators take over the organization.

Maybe it's time to "Take Back The Sierra Club," from the fanatics!!!

Maybe Roger Hedgecock should sign up again and give them some legitimate leadership!!!

22 posted on 01/30/2003 10:25:48 PM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
They should take these watermelon traitors (green outside, red inside) and bury them up to their necks in the sand at Pendlton, then practice the next landing with amtracs driving right over them.
23 posted on 01/30/2003 10:31:20 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SierraWasp
"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse?

Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?"

Maurice Strong, Head of the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro

scary statement!

24 posted on 01/30/2003 10:33:43 PM PST by fight_truth_decay (Occupied)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The Sea Shepherds were labeled a terrorist organization by the dept. of Homeland Security in the port security meeting today. They said that they attacked a fishing vessel way out in the ocean outside US waters and rammed it, leaving the crew to drown.
25 posted on 01/30/2003 10:35:18 PM PST by Eva
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To: fight_truth_decay
Hey, how do you suppose these ecofreaks would fare under the radical muslim regime we might have here some day if our men and women in uniform fail to get the job done?

I KNOW how those little birdies would do: Little birdies like those are served as apetizers in many arab countries.

26 posted on 01/30/2003 10:36:01 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: fight_truth_decay
One of these days we will find the two decades of blood money from the Opecker Islamofascists to their Green Jihadist Envirals in America.

Then it will be very clear why the Watermelon Jihadists have made us more dependent on Opecker oil. Why they have since the Days of Jimmy Carter worked 24/7 to prevent our military and in particuliar our Navy/Marines, the first line of defense against the bad guys, from getting proper training.

We will discover that ALF, ELF, EARTH FIRST and other enviralist terrorist groups have been part of the Jihad in America groups. These are their shock troops.

Then we will discover the money links with the media that makes them so radically green against America.

Then, there will be hell to pay for these green jihadists from the eco terrorists to the elites in Club Sierra.
27 posted on 01/30/2003 10:48:03 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Now you know why they attach environmental laws to treaties, the Supreme Law of the Land.
28 posted on 01/30/2003 10:48:50 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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To: Grampa Dave
One of these days we will find the two decades of blood money from the Opecker Islamofascists to their Green Jihadist Envirals in America.

Why, when there's SIX decades of Rockefeller money behind the environmental movemint in full public view, long before we were dependent upon "Opecker Oil."

29 posted on 01/30/2003 10:51:26 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal
Travis posted, "They should take these watermelon traitors (green outside, red inside) and bury them up to their necks in the sand at Pendlton, then practice the next landing with amtracs driving right over them."

Once we start the planting of the watermelons in the sands, I nominate Squantos, Harpseal and you to be in charge of this real greening of America. Make America Green by planting all of the watermelons.
30 posted on 01/30/2003 10:52:02 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Step one .......

Stay Safe

31 posted on 01/30/2003 11:09:03 PM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: Squantos
We also have a few Watermelon universities out here that should be nuked like UC Davis, Humboldt U. and most of them in Oregon.
32 posted on 01/30/2003 11:27:50 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Excellent post, I heard that show. When I was in SF/Monterrey Bay area I talked to a local waitress there who said it was terrible that the military train right on the coast and fly their practice missions right over a monestary! Oh my! I asked her if it isn't better that the military be well-trained so that NO nukes hit that monestary in the future! She looked at me with shock. I said "What if the 9/11 attack had been nukes and we couldn't go into NYC for thousands of years." She said she had never thought of that. She is a typical left coast air head. I call them space cadets!
33 posted on 01/31/2003 1:57:47 AM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary?.......Me neither....)
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To: blackbart.223
The Sierra Club wasn't always the Leftist organization it has become, was it?! I've got a kewl Sierra Club picture of a whale's tail framed in the kid's play room and I know they used to have some appeal for me, but that was before they become the Zero-Growth Enviro-Whackos they are now!!

So bart, be proud of yer heritage and prouder that you've seen the light...LOL!!

FReegards...MUD

34 posted on 01/31/2003 4:07:37 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton...MUD)
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To: Grampa Dave; Squantos; Travis McGee
Once we start the planting of the watermelons in the sands, I nominate Squantos, Harpseal and you to be in charge of this real greening of America. Make America Green by planting all of the watmelons

I would happily do that kind of gardening. Amtracks ho!

35 posted on 01/31/2003 5:44:56 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Aside from the man from the Washington Times who often fills in for Rush (McCaslin??) Rodger is my next favorite.

Did you know that the dems had a big meeting after the SOTU speech and have chosen Mitch Album to be their Rush Limbaugh.

If any freepers know who this guy is, can you please fill us in!

36 posted on 01/31/2003 6:42:06 AM PST by OldFriend (SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH)
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To: harpseal; Squantos; Travis McGee
That would be the good Green Gardening for America!
37 posted on 01/31/2003 7:01:08 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Carry_Okie
I don't remember the Rockefellers ordering a 9/11 or threatening to use dirty bombs and other WMDs on innocent Americans.

Both groups are scumbags, the Rockefellers and the Opecker Islomafacist Thugs.
38 posted on 01/31/2003 7:03:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Grampa Dave
I don't remember the Rockefellers ordering a 9/11 or threatening to use dirty bombs and other WMDs on innocent Americans.

What's that have to do with decades of supporting the Sierra Club?

39 posted on 01/31/2003 7:09:31 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
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To: OldFriend

Mitch Albom

40 posted on 01/31/2003 7:13:51 AM PST by fight_truth_decay (Occupied)
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