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Homicide victims usually know killer
The Modesto Bee ^ | Posted: January 28, 2003 @ 04:50:10 AM PST | Patick Giblin

Posted on 01/28/2003 5:13:29 AM PST by runningbear

Homicide victims usually know killer

Homicide victims usually know killer

By PATRICK GIBLIN
BEE STAFF WRITER

If Laci Peterson has been killed, statistics say she was likely slain by someone close to her.

Police still hold out hope for the pregnant, 27-year-old woman's safe return, but veteran investigators know that with each passing day since her disappearance on Christmas Eve, the chance diminishes.

"For much of our search, when we're looking in places under water, we're looking for a body," Modesto Police Chief Roy Wasden said earlier this month.

According to the California Department of Justice, more than 63 percent of the people who were arrested in California on homicide charges in 2001 knew their victims.

That's why detectives usually start investigating family members when they suspect a homicide has occurred, said Mike Van Winkle, spokesman for the department's Division of Law Enforcement.

"About three years ago, we had a female agent who didn't show up for work," he said. "The husband said she left in the morning, but our detectives took a look at him anyway. Pretty soon, he told us where to find the body."

It makes sense statistically why police are increasingly focusing on Laci Peterson's 30-year-old husband, Scott Peterson. According to the California homicide figures:

Approximately 46 percent of victims were related to the killer in some other way.

Nearly 7 percent of victims were killed by their spouses.

About 7 percent of the victims were killed by a parent or child.

About 4 percent of the killers had an "other" relationship with the victim. That could mean they were dating or roommates, for example.

About 36 percent of the victims did not know the person who killed them.

But just because Scott Peterson is the husband does not mean he's guilty of anything, Van Winkle cautioned.

Neither does the news that he had a romantic relationship with a Fresno woman he met in late November, a criminal justice expert said Monday.

Jeanette Sereno, a lawyer and assistant professor of sociology and criminal justice with California State University, Stanislaus, warned that Scott Peterson's reported liaison doesn't make him guilty of homicide.

"In fact, just because he (might be) a suspect doesn't automatically make him the defendant," she said.

According to several studies on marriage -- including a 1998 study by the Center for AIDS Prevention Studies at the University of California at San Francisco -- nearly one-fifth of spouses will have affairs during their marriages. Yet few end up in homicide.

Laci Peterson's case has another factor -- she's pregnant. Their son is due on Feb. 10.

According to a 2001 study by the American Medical Association, the leading cause of death for pregnant women is homicide. The study randomly looked at the cases of 247 pregnant women who died and found that 50 of them were murdered.

The other women died from heart problems, car accidents, previously unknown medical problems or complications from the pregnancy.

"Typically, pregnant women don't participate in risky activities such as hiking, mountain climbing or drinking in bars," Sereno said. "They are eating well and seeing their doctors, so their deaths normally would be something out of their control."

Bee staff writer Patrick Giblin can be reached at 578-2347 or pgiblin@modbee.com.

Posted: January 28, 2003 @ 04:50:10 AM PST


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: lacipeterson; scottcheaterson
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To: BonneBlue
"Thar's bin some pain in the marriage, shore," he said when asked on "60 Minutes" about his adulterous ways.

Why is it that so many murderers and prospective murderers always put me in mind of Bill Clinton?
101 posted on 01/28/2003 6:56:42 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Yaelle
Yes, I agree. This is very sad. The one thing I have wondered--and hope. If SP did in fact tell her, and all of a sudden she realized what a creep she was married to, I wonder if she would "disappear" to protect her baby from him and may have seen that as her only alternative. It's a stretch. I think it's Scott, although I realize that adultery does not necessarily a murder make.

You're pregnant. What do you think you would do if you realize that you were married to a creep, maybe a dangerous one at that?

102 posted on 01/28/2003 6:57:17 AM PST by twigs
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To: BonneBlue
Oh, so he's going to keep on talking? he's digging his hole with a spoon and i bet his atty his havin a fit. scotty boy is going down and real soon. what is it with these guys ?
they think they can just talk and talk and talk and pretty soon everyone is wore down with it and concede to him?? im glad he's talking, just tell LE where Laci is would ya? stop with the susan smith charade already would ya scott?
103 posted on 01/28/2003 6:58:16 AM PST by suzyq5558 (go G.W.!! knock daschle on his butt and nancy you need anthor lift)
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To: spectre
"Yes, we had no anger!"
104 posted on 01/28/2003 6:58:24 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: clouda
You nailed it.

Also, if Scott told the police, why was he out in public denying the rumors he had a girlfriend?

sw

105 posted on 01/28/2003 6:58:35 AM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (Keep talking, Scott, more grist for the mill))
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To: justshe
Oh, I DO like Mrs. Slim. :-)

Hey! Me too!

106 posted on 01/28/2003 7:00:58 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Had to lock up my guns, 'cause they was goin' out drinkin'.)
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To: Devil_Anse
"yes, WE had no anger"..Bet she did.

I'm angry, and this guy isn't related to me. We're all angry. WAS Laci a saint? Her own family will tell us how she would have reacted.

Did Laci think this "romantic relationship" was going to be "over" once she delivered? NOT!

107 posted on 01/28/2003 7:02:36 AM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (Keep talking, Scott, more grist for the mill))
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To: tubebender
Because people who take a wild guess early on in the case will stop at nothing to twist data to support their guess.

The only place where I have been able to find numbers like the ones we saw on earlier threads were on an anti-gun, anti-male website. After they took inflated numbers, they were passed off here on FR with Clintonian word-games, like "had some relationship" with murderer --- counting all the people who were killed by the grocery boy, etc... in a context that made it seem probable that Scott did it.

I am still looking for something reliable, but the best I have found so far is a number that can be derived from FBI stats. In about 500,000 murders, slightly more than 13,000 had the murderer as the spouse of the victim. That yields a little more than 2%. But that is not the exact quantity we are looking for. We would like the percentage of wives murdered by husbands.

I am about to give up, satisfied at least that the numbers are approximately the order of magnitude suggested in this article.

108 posted on 01/28/2003 7:02:57 AM PST by Yeti
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To: twigs
Now me, when my husband (who I utterly trust) teases me about these things, I tell him I have just two words for him--Lorena Bobbitt.

That reminds me of what I heard Dick Armey say during the impeachment hearings, or right afterwards. He said his wife told him, "If you ever pull a stunt like that, the last thing you'll ever see is me standing over you in a pool of blood, watching me re-load."

109 posted on 01/28/2003 7:03:09 AM PST by wimpycat (Hands off my Moral Compass!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
He "told Laci about the affair" because "it was the right thing to do."

Gag me! Scott gets the award for Most Clintonesque Statement of the Day!

I don't think Diane actually asked him if he also came clean with Amber at that time, and told HER that he was married. That would've been a great question to ask, b/c if he said anything directly contradictory to what Amber said, AMBER is right here to tell us--and tell the police!!
110 posted on 01/28/2003 7:03:23 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Isn't it DEAD PEOPLE who are at peace?

YIPES!! Good catch!

111 posted on 01/28/2003 7:05:22 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Part TWO tomorrow.
112 posted on 01/28/2003 7:05:26 AM PST by spectre (spectre's wife (Keep talking, Scott, more grist for the mill))
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To: Velveeta
Yeti, are you male or female?

You should be able to guess that, LOL!

But, as I said in another post, I don't advocate what I speculate.

113 posted on 01/28/2003 7:05:47 AM PST by Yeti (Apologies to Jesse Jackson ....)
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To: tubebender
That's even more surreal...that is saying that only 7 out of 100 are killed by their spouse.

That's not surreal if you realize they are counting all murder victims together. That's because the majority of murder victims are men, most likely single men, and they are looking at ALL murders. If you look only at female victims, the percentage shoots way up.

114 posted on 01/28/2003 7:06:08 AM PST by wimpycat (Hands off my Moral Compass!)
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To: wimpycat
I remember that. Good woman! And what a leader Dick Armey was. Too bad Hillary didn't use her power as a woman to enable her husband to become more than a letch. She just wanted gain his power. Unfortunately, that freed him to abuse his power on more women. I better stop now.
115 posted on 01/28/2003 7:06:55 AM PST by twigs
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To: spectre
Scott said Laci knew because HE knew darn well that Laci will be unable to come forth and contradict that assertion.
116 posted on 01/28/2003 7:08:01 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: wimpycat
of that 46%, 7% are killed by their spouse

Are you sure?

7% of toal homicieds being perpetrated by the spouse would mean a little over 15% of the 46%.

117 posted on 01/28/2003 7:08:13 AM PST by Yeti (Numbers can be distorted on purpose or by accident.)
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To: Yeti
I think the article is a poorly written explanation of the statistics. They don't make themselves clear.
118 posted on 01/28/2003 7:09:03 AM PST by wimpycat (Hands off my Moral Compass!)
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To: spectre; All
Gee,I missed it. Was he wearing his cap. Gotta go back and read the postings. What I get so far, Scott is still not believable, in other words, lying.
119 posted on 01/28/2003 7:09:10 AM PST by TexKat
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Married or divorced? :)

Divorced, but nothing like that...

120 posted on 01/28/2003 7:09:46 AM PST by Yeti (And I will be happy to submit to a two-question lie detector test about that.)
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