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Dash-hole is going freaking nuts. There is a great photo of him losing it on the link. Check it out!

Pelosi is so out of it she is running in circles.

1 posted on 01/27/2003 1:04:08 PM PST by ex-Texan
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2 posted on 01/27/2003 1:10:19 PM PST by EggsAckley
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Pelosi really is out of it. Her speech the other day where she was calling on the Senate to filibuster the nomination of any judge that didn't "affirm a woman's right to choose". Now more of this rhetoric. She will not attract moderates. She could be the poster "person" for liberalism.
3 posted on 01/27/2003 1:10:20 PM PST by kjam22
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Hans Blix just PROVED it for Bush.

Pelosi and Daschle are idiots. If the media weren't a bunch of socialist whores they'd point it out.
4 posted on 01/27/2003 1:11:08 PM PST by xzins (Prepare Ye the way of the Lord.)
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*IN WHAT WAS billed as a “pre-buttal”*

No, it was just "butt-head" as usual. I emailed the distinguished Senator D afterward and reminded him of the ever narrowing countdown until GW hits another one out of the park in tomorrow night's speech. I also reassured him that this obvious display of Democrats being scared witless about it was escaping no one.

Pelosi isn't worth the internet time to email her.
5 posted on 01/27/2003 1:12:30 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Amidst an ocean of criticism, I believe Bush has it right.)
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IN WHAT WAS billed as a “pre-buttal”

lol

6 posted on 01/27/2003 1:14:58 PM PST by Huck
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>>>...Pelosi is so out of it she is running in circles.

It was reported on another thread that she had two reasons why we shouldn't attack Saddam.

1. There is no proof that he has weapons of mass distruction.

2. We must not put our troops in harms way because Saddam will use weapons of mass didtruction on them and cause a lot of casualties.

11 posted on 01/27/2003 1:18:12 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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With this latest development, I'm REALLY looking forward to tomorrow night's SOTU address.

I'm betting that good ole Dubya is going to call their bluff, and lay out a royal flush on national TV.

Haven't they learned by now that George W. Bush is a very cool and cagey cat?

I think we know the answer to that one....

BTW, I have issued the latest edict to our household: Heinz products are no longer allowed. Pity, I kind of enjoyed the mesquite flavored ketchup.

13 posted on 01/27/2003 1:19:16 PM PST by Night Hides Not
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This is becoming a sad state of affairs for a once proud party that 30-40 years ago had true goals and aspirations for the American people (none that I would agree with). But now they are so flabbergasted by the Bush administration they are reduced to making up words (prebuttal) to attack a speech that hasn't been given yet. This is a good example of what happens when you sell your soul to the devil and sell out your constituents for power. They have no agenda but to try to demonize the President; someone who knows who he and where he is going; unlike the democrats. The best response to this kind of lunacy is no resonse; just let them twist in the wind.
23 posted on 01/27/2003 1:28:49 PM PST by ladtx (Hey, what's this line for?)
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Let's begin by revealing the Iraq connection to the Oklahoma City bombing, the first World Trade Center bombing and the destruction of TWA 800. Then add the cash payments to Palestinian families of the suicide bombers/murderers in Israel. Include mention of the connections to Al Queda (Prague, Spain, elsewhere). Finally, wrap it up with a dscussion of all the intelligence about WMD and terror inside Iraq. As Jack said: They can't handle the truth!
25 posted on 01/27/2003 1:30:32 PM PST by 2grit
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The one think lacking in all the anti-war articles, spew and speeches is: an alternative. What exactly is their alternative?

The implication is obvious: the same thing the former Democratic president did: NOTHING.

The sad thing is that their opposition to the war appeals to the lowest of human qualities: laziness, selfishness and avoidance of reality (aka wishful thinking).

We are at war with the Islamists since the horror of 9/11, and we have been at war with their main government sponsor, Iraq, since 1991.

Shirking from confrontation will only insure our inevitable destruction, but Daschle and company, so totally bereft of anything resembling integrity, care not about anything other than political power, and would gladly enslave our children and capitulate to dictators to achieve that end. Perhaps they understand Saddam far better than we think.

33 posted on 01/27/2003 1:46:47 PM PST by browardchad
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So now they have prebuttel and rebuttel and as always the naked rats can't come up with an intelligent thought.

Sarcasticly::: WOW, what wonderful ideas for our country's future and economic growth!
36 posted on 01/27/2003 1:48:10 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (If you can read this you're too close!)
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“If we have proof of nuclear and biological weapons, why don’t we show that proof to the world — as President Kennedy did 40 years ago when he sent Adlai Stevenson to the United Nations to show the world U.S. photographs of offensive missiles in Cuba,”

The Dems know that there is no such proof, so there's no disadvantage to saying this. They know Bush has no ace to lay out.

45 posted on 01/27/2003 1:52:16 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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"WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 — On the eve of President Bush’s State of the Union address, congressional Democratic leaders challenged the president to show “proof to the world” that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction."

I really wish President Bush would offer some proof- just to embarass the Dimocrats that have opposed the war up to now!

47 posted on 01/27/2003 1:54:32 PM PST by Destructor
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"WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 — On the eve of President Bush’s State of the Union address, congressional Democratic leaders challenged the president to show “proof to the world” that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction."

I really wish President Bush would offer some proof- just to embarass the Dimocrats that have opposed the war up to now!

48 posted on 01/27/2003 1:55:18 PM PST by Destructor
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Daschle, Pelosi sharply assail president on eve of State of the Union speech.

WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 — On the eve of President Bush’s State of the Union address, congressional Democratic leaders challenged the president to show “proof to the world” that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.

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Daschle ping

(Please Freepmail me if you want on/off my Daschle ping.)

50 posted on 01/27/2003 1:56:16 PM PST by nicmarlo
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If we have proof of nuclear and biological weapons, why don’t we show that proof to the world

Daschle & Pelosi don't care if intelligence sources are compromised; they don't care if operatives and sources die. It doesn't serve their agenda...

60 posted on 01/27/2003 2:13:43 PM PST by mhking (RED ALERT! Shields UP! Lock phasers on target; load quantum torpedoes!)
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My question is:

Why are these democRAT socialists and traitors still allowed to use the oxygen cycle?

It boggles one's mind.

Mustang sends.
61 posted on 01/27/2003 2:15:44 PM PST by Mustang
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“If we have proof of nuclear and biological weapons, why don’t we show that proof to the world — as President Kennedy did 40 years ago when he sent Adlai Stevenson to the United Nations to show the world U.S. photographs of offensive missiles in Cuba,” Daschle said at the National Press Club news conference.

By revealing the photos, Kennedy let the Soviets know the exact limits of our photo recon capability. This was a major deal at the time, since this capability was top secret in the extreme.

62 posted on 01/27/2003 2:17:11 PM PST by gridlock (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue)
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A "Be careful what you wish for...</i> bump for the Dems.
65 posted on 01/27/2003 2:18:46 PM PST by mewzilla
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Indian firm’s link with Iraqi ministry revealed

Ex-NEC official’s statement to DRI: He was hosted by Saddam ministry, Iraqis visited Chennai plant; Iraq, NEC deny contact Shishir Gupta

NEW DELHI: Chief UN Weapons Inspector Hans Blix who has been scanning the backyards of Baghdad can perhaps pick up some clues here.

A Directorate of Revenue Intelligence (DRI) probe into the Delhi-based NEC Engineers Pvt Ltd indicates that the company, under the directions of Iraq’s Ministry of Military Industries, may have helped Saddam Hussein manufacture precursors for weapons of mass destruction (WMD).

The statement made by former general manager (projects) of the NEC, N. Katturajan, under Section 108 of the Customs Act, 1962 to the DRI, is explosive. He names an Iraqi official Abdul Baghi as the Director General of the Al Rashid Chlorate plant, a project that was run by Saddam’s Ministry of Military Industries. Katturajan, in the statement to DRI on May 24, 2002, claims knowledge that the Al Rashid plant was used for making sodium chlorate and sodium perchlorate, chemical precursors for making rocket-propellant ammonium perchlorate that is used as missile fuel. Katturajan claims that the missile fuel facility was barely 500 metres from the Al Rashid facility.

According to the former NEC official, he was involved with rebuilding the chlorine plant at Fallujah, 58 km from Baghdad, and claims that the overall charge of the facility was with General (Dr) Khazi Fascil.

In his statement, Katturajan names one Shahab as secretary to the Ministry of Military Industries and the ‘‘total controller and advisor for both (Al Rashid and Fallujah) the projects.’’ He claims to have gone to Iraq in July 1999 by road via Jordan and being taken to Hotel Al Sadeer in Baghdad, where his boarding and lodging were taken care of by the Iraqi Ministry for Military Industries.

Katturajan claims that he went to Iraq four times for NEC work and stayed there for three-to-four months in each visit. However, NEC has taken a stand (since Tony Blair went on record on Sept 24, 2002 that NEC illicitly helped Iraq’s WMD programme) that its export operations are overboard and that it was not supplying spherical aluminum powder to Iraq but was only exporting it to Jordan.

Iraq too has denied receiving any material from the Indian company. ‘‘Iraq did not not receive any material. There is no proof in that regard,’’ Iraq’s ambassador Saleh Mukhtar told reporters on Saturday. He claimed ‘‘the company had legally exported certain material to the UAE and Jordan.’’

Katturajan’s statement to DRI has another startling revelation that four Iraqi officials visited chemical factories in Chennai along with then NEC Director Hansraj Shiv in July/August 1998.

At that time, Katturajan was working with a chlorate manufacturing company in Pondicherry and joined NEC in July 1999. He now runs a chemical engineering consultancy firm in Pondicherry. According to him, the Al Rashid plant was commissioned in November 1999 and Fallujah chlorine facility in August 2000 with NEC’s help. At the same time, the former NEC official statement makes it clear that he did not visit the missile fuel manufacturing facility near the Al Rashid plant.

He says Hansraj Shiv asked him not to go to the facility as ‘‘Iraqi officials wanted free technology from us and that he (Hansraj Shiv) is there in Iraq for earning money and not free services.’’ The DRI is now on the look-out for Hansraj Shiv and his son Siddarth Hans.

DRI reports show influential Jordan national Mohammed El-Khatib and son Abu Tariq were helping NEC. According to Katturajan, NEC was operating through a front company, Al Najah General Trading Company, at Alibaba Square in Baghdad.

He claims Iraqi directors Muntasir Awni and Ammar Auni handled NEC’s operations in Baghdad. NEC is accused of exporting 11 consignments of sensitive materials including spherical aluminum powder, titanium vessels and anodes between Sept 1998 and Feb 2001 in contravention of Indian export laws.

On January 13, 2003, NEC’s technical director R.C.P. Choudhary surrendered before a local court after Additional Sessions Judge Manju Goel rejected his anticipatory bail application on December 16, 2002. Choudhary is currently in judicial custody.

Two other NEC officials, general manager (operations) Rajiv Dheer and its Chennai representative Anna Kumar, were also arrested but are currently on bail.

NEC’s involvement with Baghdad may have dented the Indian pride on its commitment to non-proliferation, but it has also spurred New Delhi to enforce tighter export control regimes.

Under Indian law, exports of sensitive materials are governed by SCOMET (Special Chemical Organism Materials Equipment and Technologies) provisions of Exim Policy 1997-2002. In March 2001, New Delhi received intelligence that NEC was supplying dual-use items to Iraq by showing exports to Jordan. —IE

76 posted on 01/27/2003 2:29:44 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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