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How guns save lives
Washington Times ^
| 1/26/03
Posted on 01/25/2003 10:44:57 PM PST by kattracks
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:00:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Thanks to Baltimore Circuit Court Judge John M. Glynn, justice finally prevailed Thursday, as two businessmen were acquitted of first-degree murder charges for killing a weapon-toting hoodlum who broke into their warehouse. Just seconds after defense attorneys finished their closing arguments, Judge Glynn pronounced Darrell Kifer and Kenny Der not guilty in the June 30, 2001, slaying of Tygon Walker, who was holding a hammer and threatening to kill them. Judging from the facts of the case
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posted on
01/25/2003 10:44:57 PM PST
by
kattracks
To: Travis McGee; Abundy
Miss Jessamy is ambituous is the answer. She wants to unseat Martin O'Malley. And she's got most of the urban knee-jerk crowd behind her. And she'll probably get it when Martin tries to unseat Bob Ehrlich.
What a cesspool Maryland politics is.
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posted on
01/25/2003 10:56:53 PM PST
by
nunya bidness
(Your ad here!)
To: kattracks
Too bad the judge didn't find some way to penalize the prosecutor...
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posted on
01/25/2003 11:29:26 PM PST
by
CurlyDave
To: kattracks
Absolutely right --- GUNS SAVE LIVES!
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posted on
01/25/2003 11:55:20 PM PST
by
Cindy
Comment #5 Removed by Moderator
To: nunya bidness
Imagine how I feel, with family in Kali and Baltimore!
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posted on
01/26/2003 12:16:39 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee; *bang_list
bang
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posted on
01/26/2003 1:37:27 AM PST
by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: dd5339
ping
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posted on
01/26/2003 4:33:06 AM PST
by
Vic3O3
To: kattracks
Maryland has puzzled me politically for a long time. I know a large number of Marylanders from my work, and
every one of them is a staunch conservative. Yet the state's politics have been dominated by Leftist thinking and policies for an unconscionable interval.
At least this judge has his head on straight. Let's hope there are others who just needed an example of forthright moral vision to evoke their own slumbering consciences.
Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason:
http://palaceofreason.com
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posted on
01/26/2003 4:51:31 AM PST
by
fporretto
(Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
To: kattracks
The law should also provide the defendants with reimbursement for their legal expenses AND time lost from their jobs.
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posted on
01/26/2003 6:08:26 AM PST
by
whipitgood
(monitor reality!)
To: kattracks
why is Mrs. Jessamy squandering taxpayer dollars by persecuting small-business owners like Messrs. Kifer and Der, who were merely defending their lives and their property?Because guns in the hands of citizens are considered much more dangerous to the state than guns in the hands of criminals.
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posted on
01/26/2003 6:17:17 AM PST
by
arthurus
To: kattracks
Justice would have been better served if this had never gone to trial. Resume & agenda driven prosecutors have it all too easy, using the process to dish out punishment. If the story is correct any moron would realize there was no premeditation. The
perpetrators prosecutor knew full well the business owners were not the bad guys yet this zealot of the seculor state chose to punish and show her disapproval of the use of force and firearms even in an act of self-defense.
"Jessamy blundered badly by prosecuting Messrs. Kifer and Der to begin with especially on first-degree murder charges."
IMO this was no blunder, it was planned. The robbery victims defended themselves that night and have been on the defensive ever since. They received a financial spanking they will never forget.
Cesspool may be an understatement.
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posted on
01/26/2003 7:22:40 AM PST
by
Ches
To: kattracks
The problem with a court making a decision on this matter is that the only facts seem to be one dead tresspasser, one hammer, and two armed defenders. The only witnesses were the two defendants who were facing jail time. What if instead of threatening to kill them, the intruder, who apparently broke in unarmed, saw their guns and yelled "Please don't shoot!". It still isn't 1st degree murder, but it isn't commendable either.
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posted on
01/26/2003 7:32:50 AM PST
by
beavus
To: fporretto; Freee-dame; maica; Abundy; nunya bidness
Baltimore and the DC suburbs are the liberal tail that wags conservative Maryland.
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posted on
01/26/2003 8:13:39 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: beavus
The clear lesson is "don't break in, and you won't risk getting shot".
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posted on
01/26/2003 8:15:10 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: kattracks
bump
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posted on
01/26/2003 8:25:41 AM PST
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: Travis McGee
Apparently the only things worth a darn in Baltimore anymore are crab cakes and Hammerjacks.
To: big ern
I'm married with children and over 40, Hammerjack's is just a place I pass on my way in and out of town!
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posted on
01/26/2003 8:53:36 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: beavus
The problem with a court making a decision on this matter is that the only facts seem to be one dead tresspasser, one hammer, and two armed defenders. The only witnesses were the two defendants who were facing jail time. What if instead of threatening to kill them, the intruder, who apparently broke in unarmed, saw their guns and yelled "Please don't shoot!". It still isn't 1st degree murder, but it isn't commendable either.Totally agree. They weren't defending their homes, by the way, where a different set of presumptions regarding deadly force might apply. Self-defense is a defense and has to be proved by the defendant, not presumed, so that's why we have trials. I don't understand, based on this story, how they actually corroborated their "proof" since they were the only surviving witnesses and their testimony was implicitly self-serving, but let's presume they managed to do it.
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posted on
01/26/2003 9:07:11 AM PST
by
WL-law
To: WL-law
They weren't defending their homes, by the way, where a different set of presumptions regarding deadly force might apply. I don't see what difference it makes how they chose to use their property--whether for construction, storage, or sleeping. All that matters is that it was their property.
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posted on
01/26/2003 9:33:57 AM PST
by
beavus
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