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Decline in Hunters Changing National Gun Debate (BARF ALERT)
JoinTogether.org (a bunch of statists) ^ | 1/3/2003 | Dick Dahl

Posted on 01/25/2003 11:19:56 AM PST by Sparta

A recent report by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) showing a sharp decline in the popularity of hunting casts light on a little-discussed trend that may already be influencing the political debate about guns in America.

A survey by FWS found that between 1996 and 2001 the number of hunters in the U.S. declined from 14 million to 13 million, a 7 percent decrease. The data in the report indicate that the decline is attributable to the fact that hunting is most popular among older people in rural areas and the rate at which older hunters are dying out is not being matched by the entry of young people into the activity. In 1991, according to the FWS, 61 percent of American hunters were 35 years or older; by 2001 that proportion had increased to 67 percent.

The survey also points to the continuing shrinkage of the nation's rural population, which is far more likely to produce hunters than metropolitan areas. In 1991, 22 percent of the population lived in rural (i.e., nonmetropolitan) areas but accounted for 46 percent of the nation's hunters. By 2001, the rural population had dropped to 19 percent of the nation's total and 41 percent of the nation's hunters. Apparently due to attrition of hunters, the popularity of hunting even within rural areas has been declining, according to FWS. In 1991, 15 percent of the rural population hunted; by 2001, that number had dropped to 13 percent. The percentage of Americans living in metropolitan areas (defined as municipalities of 50,000 or more) who hunted held steady at 5 percent.

Hunters and the NRA If hunting is on the decline, what are the implications for the larger issue of public policy about gun ownership in the U.S.? Robert J. Spitzer, a professor of political science at the State University of New York College at Cortland and author of the book, "The Politics of Gun Control," considers it a further reason for the National Rifle Association and the gun lobby to look elsewhere for its support base.

"The hunting/sporting people have always been the primary core of political support for the NRA and similar gun groups, so that means their base is clearly declining," he said. "I think that's the main reason why the NRA has accelerated its political appeals. The other leg of support for gun rights is the politically conservative, hard right wing--the ones who own guns because they think they somehow protect them from a tyrannical government."

While hunters do remain a core constituency of the NRA, the movement toward a broader membership of right-wing ideologues who may have no interest in hunting whatsoever has been constant for at least 15 years. In embarking on that course, the NRA lost many of its more politically moderate hunter members who considered advocacy of assault-weapon ownership a step too far. At the same time, former President George H.W. Bush dropped his NRA membership in 1995 over an NRA newsletter's characterization of federal agents as "jackbooted thugs," hundreds of thousands of other NRA members, many of them hunters, did the same.

Spitzer maintains that the NRA now faces the prospect of a similar problem. After Sept. 11, 2001, Spitzer said, the sort of anti-government rhetoric that the NRA uses so effectively in drawing adherents into its fold has lost its luster. "It doesn't fly as well at a time when people want more security, more government, to protect them and are much more pro law and order," he said. "So there's less sympathy and a less receptive public for this sort of foaming-at-the-mouth 'the government is the enemy' sort of thing--because now the government is a friend that's fighting the external enemy of terrorism."

Hunting's Costs and Conflicts While familiar gun-control issues like the assault-weapons ban and closing gun-show loopholes will be receiving Congressional attention, hunting issues remain largely within the domains of state and local government. As the suburbs expand into rural areas, inevitable conflicts arise between anti-hunting suburbanites and pro-hunting rural populations. Many towns and counties around the nation have passed hunting restrictions, but hunting organizations have countered by pushing for "right to hunt" protections in their state constitutions.

There are differences of opinion about the necessity of hunters for culling populations of wild animals. Deer populations have exploded in many areas of the country in recent years, prompting hunters to call for longer seasons to hunt them. But animal advocates argue that large deer populations exist because state wildlife agencies often view themselves as providers and producers of deer for sport hunting, adopting programs to ensure large herds for hunters to kill.

But as rural traditions conflict with those of the suburbs, the arguments are about more than the threats posed to wild animals. According to the International Hunter Education Association (IHEA), hunters in the U.S. and Canada shot between 1,038 and 1,780 people annually between 1987 and 1997. Every autumn, American newspapers are filled with stories about these victims. In 1987, IHEA analyzed 822 shootings and found that 318 were victims of firearms accidentally discharging, 193 were mistaken for game, 143 were obscured by vegetation or were in their homes or vehicles, 140 were not noticed as the hunter swung and shot at game, and 28 moved into the line of fire.

In addition to animal-advocacy groups, some individuals are speaking out against the dangers of hunting. Rex Stuart, who lives near Arcadia, La., has organized an group called the Non-Hunters' Rights Coalition. Perturbed by the activities of people discharging their firearms near his property, Stuart has initiated a petition drive to establish "safe space" between citizens and all private and public land where hunting is allowed. Stuart moved onto his family's farm 10 years ago, and six months later a group of people set up a "hunting club," as Stuart calls it, that borders his property only 130 yards from his front door. He claims that members frequently shoot over his house. He says he feels powerless because "the laws in Louisiana protect hunters--not nonhunting citizens."

"Hunters do get out of line," he said, "but people are afraid to speak out." He's pushing his petition in Louisiana, but he's also making the petition available to people in other states who are interested in strengthening state laws to protect nonhunters from hunters.

However, somewhat like gun-violence-prevention activists who seek stronger laws for handguns and assault weapons, hunting opponents face powerful entrenched opposition--and not just the NRA and sportsmen's groups. On Dec. 15, the Portland (Maine) Press-Herald reported that the state's Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife is actively working to "bring new hunters into the field" by unveiling "innovative measures" in 2003. The office "will boost marketing by targeting new license buyers from data gathered from an online licensing system being introduced" in 2003, the paper reported. In addition, the newspaper said, the Sportsman's Alliance of Maine will be pushing for the passage of legislation that would require town councils to consult with Inland Fisheries and Wildlife before passing firearm ordinances. It reportedly also is seeking a bill to protect shooting ranges from noise ordinances.

According to the New York City-based Fund for Animals, state agencies frequently involve themselves in youth-recruitment campaigns for hunting. The Fund conducted a survey which found that 48 states sponsor children's hunts and that "a growing number of states now offer cut-rate hunting licenses to children under a certain age, usually 16." In some states, such as Colorado, there are no minimum ages. In Colorado, a "Youth Combination Small Game Hunting, Furbearer, and Fishing License" sells for one dollar and is promoted by a Colorado Division of Wildlife brochure that announces "There is no minimum age" in boldface.

Local and regional conflicts between hunters and those who oppose them will no doubt continue for many years to come. But unless hunters and their friends in state government can reverse the trend, they may be playing a losing game in the long term.

"There are just more things for people to do now," Spitzer says. "Even if you live in the middle of nowhere you can get on the Internet, you can play video games, it's easier to travel. There are more activities to draw kids away from what would otherwise be one of the few things that they can do, which is hunting. The hunting tradition is simply not being passed on from one generation to the next like it once was."


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To: jwalsh07
Wake up on the wrong side of the stall this morning?

41 posted on 01/25/2003 5:46:13 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Wake up on the wrong side of the stall this morning?

More supercillious bull from the pusillanimous pipsqueak Jackie the Jokeman.

Take a position or take a hike.

42 posted on 01/25/2003 5:50:14 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Boycott France, Germany and the UN)
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To: rellimpank
To post # 11.
I agree 100%
As a young lad the enitre valley I lived in was farms, now
it's houses.
43 posted on 01/25/2003 5:51:30 PM PST by squibs
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To: jwalsh07
I took a position.

Oh to be so obtuse!

Take your meds now.

Good night bittersweet.
44 posted on 01/25/2003 5:54:46 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
I took a position.

Yep, your usual one.

45 posted on 01/25/2003 5:56:10 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Boycott France, Germany and the UN)
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To: Hugin
they completely ignore the number one reason why most gunowners own guns today--for personal defense against criminals

AMEN!

46 posted on 01/25/2003 6:04:50 PM PST by Sungirl (I have the right to defend myself!!! ......I'm not good with a knife.)
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To: rellimpank; dagnabbit
I guess you guys want to sign up with the UN forum on "population contro" or maybe take money from Ted Turner and Warren Buffett to start a foundation. The fact is, only limiting yourself to two children when you could afford more (as is true of the pasty-faced upper middle and upper class) is what may cause a population "imbalance" between the poor and the shiftless and the productive. Remember: Those that breed will lead and inherit the future.

Another point, How come so much of what was once farmland has reverted to forest? Why is it that upstate New York continues to be depopulated? Why is it that every time I fly over this country and get a good look below, I see a lot of empty land?

47 posted on 01/25/2003 6:05:55 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Sungirl
"they completely ignore the number one reason why most gunowners own guns today--for personal defense against criminals
AMEN!"


Me and my boys went rabbit hunting today.

That said, if I never hunt again, I think the Second Amendment my may permit me to keep my guns.

At least that is what I learned in Law School.
48 posted on 01/25/2003 6:08:46 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: waterstraat
Esp among the children of immigrants from asia, who are STRONGLY!!!! against guns and hunting.

Thank the pagan countries that they come from, where animals are held to be "sacred." Let's also not forget that most of the Asians who come here are "urbanized" and therefore susceptible to every argument the intellectual left puts forward in this country.

49 posted on 01/25/2003 6:10:09 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Sparta
now the government is a friend . . .

Uhhhh, sure!

50 posted on 01/25/2003 6:10:15 PM PST by AK2KX
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To: Sparta
Hunting is a big red herring in regards to guns. I don't care if nobody hunts anywhere, that's no excuse to ban or limit guns in any way. Unfortunately, the NRA and other pro-gun rights groups have been using hunting as a method of legitimizing gun ownership. Bad move.
51 posted on 01/25/2003 6:13:21 PM PST by Monty22
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To: jwalsh07
Anyone who thinks forests are gone has never flown from say Alexandria, LA over central Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia. It's green carpet for as far is the eye can see. If you run out of gas you are going to land in a tree.
52 posted on 01/25/2003 6:16:03 PM PST by Comus
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To: Sparta
The Greenies have made hunting difficult by abuse of the Endangered Species Act. Hunting land is made off limits. Predators are protected to an extreme and they kill off game that would have been hunted. The wolf population in Idaho is going after a variety of game and there isn't squat that can be done about it. The reduced availability of game is causing a reduction in the number of hunters that are taking the time to go hunting.

I've been in Idaho since December 2000, but my company sends me out of town for weeks at a time. I can't plan a good hunting trip with the perpetual demands for out of town work. I hope I can get a handle on the problem before I'm too old and out of shape to enjoy my new digs.

53 posted on 01/25/2003 6:36:18 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Clemenza
Disarming the commoners is an Asian tradition. Throughout history, all the Chinese, Japanese, and Korean rulers have forbidden their citizens from owning weapons. They even issued edicts that prohibited commoners from practicing martial arts.

{Asians who come here are "urbanized" and therefore susceptible to every argument the intellectual left puts forward in this country.}

You are right on this point. Asian-Americans, in their quest to make it in America, would attend our elite universities for the purpose of receiving a quality education. However, they end up being brainwashed by Marxist college professors.
54 posted on 01/25/2003 6:55:47 PM PST by Kuksool (Keep Gun Ownership Safe & Legal)
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To: JFoxbear

All due respects sir, but this article is pure propaganda in my view.

That's what the Barf Alert's for.

55 posted on 01/25/2003 10:18:05 PM PST by Sparta (Statism is a mental illness)
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To: Sparta
Thanks for tagging this with a "barf alert", but I read it anyway. These people (i.e. Dahl, Brady, Sugarmann, Schumer, Finestein, etc.) don't understand that we will not voluntarily disarm. I hope they can come to their senses before they have to find out the hard way.

5.56mm

56 posted on 01/26/2003 5:12:20 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Sparta
I'm getting sick of the hunters in my area. Yesterday there were two cormorants next to my house. Both had been shot and were dying a slow, miserable death. This is not the first time this has happened.

Hunters who eat what they kill I can understand. Randomly shooting at animals is an abomination and reinforces what a lot of people think of hunters; that they just like killing.

Hunters who play by the rules are the ones who are being adversely affected by the actions of thes idiots and it makes me wonder just what percentage of hunters act responsibly. They all claim to be but obviously some are lying.

I spoke to one fellow in the neighborhood yesterday who likes to hunt. He said he practices the "hunt and release method". He then laughed at his own "joke" and I walked away shaking my head at what an %%%$^$^$# I have living in my area.

58 posted on 01/26/2003 5:35:49 AM PST by sakic
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To: Bluntpoint
If you can't tell the difference between "...may permit me to keep my guns" and "...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" you have a problem with understanding the English language. Oh, I forgot, you're a lawyer!
59 posted on 01/26/2003 5:37:30 AM PST by jsraggmann
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To: Bluntpoint
as a tree farmer, loblolly pines, trying to hold on to a crop of 100 acres of reforestation, i find that i am battling increasing taxes by the government. they're most infringing and likely to make me sell off the land to developers.

yes, the property rates are supposed to be lower for agricultural use, but they are ever increasing in all aspects to meet government demands. there are no old forests, for they are ever changing, trees die, and new ones replenish the forest.... a well managed forest is the benefit of the earth.

and that means harvesting.

60 posted on 01/26/2003 6:19:09 AM PST by teeman8r
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