Pulled article - Attorney in prominent Texas law firm is fatally shot

Well, a source would be nice, for starters.

And if you want 1000 posts, a little more information would help get us all going. There's not much up there.

Someone who is obsessed with this forum, and registers just about every day. And is banned every day. Their sole mission is to disrupt. Like you all can't figure out a DU type troll. Thanks to everyone for pointing them out.

This was the thread that was pulled. I looked for someplace to ask the question in private and short of emailing jimrob i saw none....

BEAUMONT, Texas (AP) ---- An elderly man apparently angered by a law firm's refusal to represent him in an asbestos case opened fire at the firm Thursday, killing a veteran attorney, police said.

Another lawyer at Reaud Morgan & Quinn Inc., subdued the 79-year-old gunman, Police Chief Tom Scofield said.

Cris Quinn, a senior partner and Baylor University law school graduate, was killed. Quinn, 47, a lawyer for the last 21 years, specialized in personal injury law.

The chief identified the shooter as Richard Gerzine, and said he had asked to see Quinn just before 9 a.m. After being escorted into the lawyer's office, Gerzine took out a shotgun concealed in a cardboard box and fired two shots, Scofield said.

Scofield said Gerzine, of nearby Vidor, was angry the firm had refused to represent him in an asbestos-related lawsuit. He didn't have any more details about the case.

"The facts were not there, the case was refused. At that point, he became quite angry about that," Scofield said.

Gerzine was charged with murder Thursday night and was in custody at the Jefferson County Jail. His arraignment had not yet been scheduled.

The law firm was closed after the shooting. A wreath with yellow roses was hung on the front door.

"Cris Quinn was a fine man," said George Shipley, a friend of the victim and a political consultant. "He was a very fine attorney and was very widely respected throughout Southeast Texas."

Another partner in the firm, Wayne Reaud, was one of the private lawyers hired by former Attorney General Dan Morales in the state's fight against the tobacco industry.

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To: sinkspur

If somebody from Vidor, Texas walks in your door, run the other way.

I used to drive through Vidor at 80 mph on I-10 once or twice a year when I lived in Texas. The only reason I remember it at all is because someone had rented a billboard on the highway offering a reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for the exceptionally brutal rape and murder of a young woman. The billboard also made reference to a corrupt county sherriff who was allegedly protecting the culprit(s).

Things like that tend to stick in your mind.

51 posted on 01/22/2003 8:25 PM CST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: prodata

Conveniently ignored in this story (and thread) is the fact that asbestosis- the old man's chief complaint- is, like the breast implant scare and alar and so many other 'crises', nothing but another cash-mill dreamed up by the trial lawyers.

It seems to me the old guy went in looking for his 'fair share' and when it wasn't forthcoming decided to have a little personal justice. I'm not saying the guy deserved to get whacked, but I can't think of too many people who'd feel sorry for him based on the company he kept.

52 posted on 01/22/2003 8:26 PM CST by IncPen ( God as my witness I thought turkeys could fly!)
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To: Iwentsouth

Reaud represented clients injured by asbestos in the 1970s and 1980s, and went on to become one the "Tobacco Five" -- the group of lawyers who shared a record $3.3 billion fee from Texas's settlement with Big Tobacco in 1998.
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53 posted on 01/22/2003 8:28 PM CST by Senator Pardek
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The billboards are still up..... The father of the murdered girl has them along I-10 west of Vidor.

54 posted on 01/22/2003 8:29 PM CST by deport
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To: IncPen

I bet this huckster who's pushing up daisies said "guys who live to 79 are not good clients concerning asbestos".

55 posted on 01/22/2003 8:30 PM CST by Senator Pardek
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To: Iwentsouth

Before Rush there was only Larry King at night on the radio. He told a joke one time,

You're in a room with a lawyer, a rapist, and a murderer. You've got a revolver with two bullets in it. What do you do?

56 posted on 01/22/2003 8:32 PM CST by GhostofWCooper
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Depends

Good one!

I wonder if Depends are supplied in jail?

57 posted on 01/22/2003 8:33 PM CST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: deport

The billboards are still up..... The father of the murdered girl has them along I-10 west of Vidor.

That billboard still sends chills up my spine.

I sure hope the father gets satisfaction some day. I'm surprised he hasn't taken justice into his own hands, if the perps are generally known, which I deduced from the billboard that they were.

58 posted on 01/22/2003 8:33 PM CST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: GhostofWCooper

You shoot the lawyer twice.

59 posted on 01/22/2003 8:35 PM CST by GhostofWCooper
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To: prodata

Question: "Why can't you believe in an honest lawyer?"

Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence.

61 posted on 01/22/2003 8:44 PM CST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: prodata

This happenend months ago. My business is only blocks away from their offices. This firm made approx. a BILLION dollars off of the texas tobacco settlement. Even so....i knew Chris Quinn and he was a very generous individual who spent MANY hours donating his time to the Youth Soccer league here in Beaumont. Not just dollars but his free time was spent with and for the kids. Yes he was a very big Democrat but he did not deserve to be shot by the whacko that killed him. Hours after the shooting another local lawyer was heard to say that the wacko killed the wrong partner....Chris was the decent one in the firm.

He is survived by a beautiful wife who must now raise their children alone......

I will miss his presence here in Beaumont.

62 posted on 01/22/2003 8:57 PM CST by is_is
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To: prodata

"The law firm said the facts weren't there. Not that they could not win."

When a lawyer says the facts aren't there, it means he realizes that he can't win. Many potential big money jackpots are taken on by attorneys who realize that the facts aren't there, but the potential payoff directs them to take the gamble anyway.

Integrity in a lawyer is like a chicken's hind legs.....

63 posted on 01/22/2003 8:59 PM CST by yooper
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To: is_is

There is more to this story that's not shown in this article or the one I posted. I've searched but can't find anything of substance about the event. But I seem to remember reading that Gerzine also had an attorney in Houston and maybe that was one of the reasons that Mr. Quinn had turned or was turning him down.

64 posted on 01/22/2003 9:08 PM CST by deport
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To: deport

a local lawyer figured into that case as well. The dead woman was a waitress at a local bar and grill type resturant. She was seperated at the time and having an affair with a local "married" lawyer. They were together at the Best Western accross the street after she got of work the night she died. The lawyer was the last to see her alive....except for her killer....Rumor is it was HELL at his house when the homocide detectives came to his house to interview his wife!!!!

The dead girls father thinks his son in law did it and won a civil court ruling against him.

Evidently the lawyer was unlucky like Condit!!!!

65 posted on 01/22/2003 9:09 PM CST by is_is
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Chat is a forum for articles that really do not meet the intent of FR. Articles that are news, but don't really have a political impact. Also vanity type threads.

"waaaah"

No 'waaaaah" to it, just the way it is.

This is one of the reasons I never donate money to this board

Thanks for that information Kerberos. Now I know who I'm carrying an extra load for.

Your right Kerberos,I do not like you opinion.

Sorry about your friend.

For that matter, there's a lot I don't understand here as far as how the forums are laid out and what crosses over to what. The only thing I do when I come here is click on "Latest Posts". Maybe I'm missing out on other parts of the site. I don't know.

This is why I hate Chat. It confuses too many people. I liked to see ALL THE ARTICLES AT ONCE, before there was a "chat."

But then, I'm just a big baby ...

"Thanks for that information Kerberos. Now I know who I'm carrying an extra load for. "

No problem.

And pulling threads is why I support this board. The moderators do a good job of letting discourse take place while controlling fools that don't have a clue. The moderator has already suggested that legitimate threads can be restored.

I have seldom (if ever) seen a thread or a post pulled because of someone's opinion. Suggesting illegal actions, threatening officials, posting falsehoods, deliberately trying to besmirch FR, and the like should get you banned.

DUers, trolls and disrupters deserve to get booted off. Allowing people who hate FR to monopolize and flame the forum is stupid and has sent many a poster away in frustration. Though I do miss a good opus from the more creative ones.

An email to the moderators has allowed many a poster back on - ask A+Bert how many times he has been banned! (Is he back yet, or forever gone?)

. Articles that are news, but don't really have a political impact.

Like the Laci threads that are in News and Activisim day in and day out.....I follow those threads,so i don't care where they are....well yes i do because i check news only for latest posts.... it's just that some things seem arbitrary around here....

Hey dude, I know what it's like. I used to be broke too. Good luck to you!

Actually, I think this system works pretty well. The management is pretty liberal in its definition of News/Activism. But most vanities and entertainment related stuff is banished to "General Interest", along with the Astronomy Picture of the Day, Word of the Day (vocabulary improvement series), and similar oddities. The religious rants have been banished to the Religion forum, so newcomers to FR aren't immediately confronted with reams of hostile sectarian theological debates. And the "Smokey Backroom" gets some of the rough and tumble threads on other topics. It's probably about time they changed thename of the "Campaign 2002" forum though.

Newbie poster, who posted the original, was banned.

This clown had been banned more than once, and was too dim to change his MO. Correct?

He was a Lawyer and a FLAMING DEMOCRAT, but he loved his kids a donated a TREMENDOUS amount of time to kids.....

thanks....

love your name !!!

The religious rants have been banished to the Religion forum, so newcomers to FR aren't immediately confronted with reams of hostile sectarian theological debates.

Too bad the strutting atheist claptrap doesn't take a dive down the dumpster too.

arrogant lawyers, in $3000 suits.

We met with a couple of Texas lawyers in 88 over a civil matter and their boots cost that much. They didn't take our case because all the money stolen from our association had been spent by the crook and there was nothing to recover.

. . . just the way it is.

LOL. You mean what, exactly? Read the thread.