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Brace for A Real War at Home
DefenseWatch "The Voice of the Grunt" ^ | January 22, 2003 | Ed Offley

Posted on 01/22/2003 7:39:24 PM PST by Mossad1967

The next war with Iraq won't be a distant video-game conflict that we will watch live on CNN as in 1991.

It will likely be a two-front war, with the American heartland as the second battlefield.

That's the quiet but grave warning that senior military officials are beginning to sound as the Defense Department accelerates its plan to assemble nearly 200,000 troops in Southwest Asia preparing to invade and topple the Iraqi regime. Hundreds, if not thousands, of U.S. military personnel are also quietly preparing for combat right here at home.

This is a threat and a response issue that has quietly emerged in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, although it has attracted scant attention or interest from Congress, the news media or public at large...

(Excerpt) Read more at sftt.org ...


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To: sarasmom; _Jim
"All hell will break out soon.It has been known for decades that the people of the USA will not play the "game" the same way the europeans did. Hell is soon to be unleashed.The choice was made long ago, the extent of chaos is the only true subject of debate."

I fully agree. Nonetheless, the terrorists will make attempts here just as they have done in Israel.

But as I said in the first post above, such attempts in the end will amount to nothing for them.

41 posted on 01/22/2003 10:15:09 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mossad1967
Why not have a formal declaration of war so the fifth colunists can be dealt with?
42 posted on 01/22/2003 10:16:20 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: _Jim
Underscore Jim,

/1/ Can you tell us now who provided the weaponized anthrax used in the 3 gram total warning attack in 10/2001?

/2/ Can you tell us with certainty that the producer of that anthrax has not brought in and cached 100s of pounds of the same weaponized anthrax in the USA? (We know how good you feds are at keeping other illegal white powders out of the USA, right?)

/3/ Can you tell us what has happened to the missing TONS of Iraqi weaponized anthrax?

Answer those questions conclusively, and I will join you in scoffing at the idea of terrorist attacks in the USA in response to an attack on Iraq.

43 posted on 01/22/2003 10:17:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (--------------------------- WAR SOLVED HITLER! -------------------------)
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To: Southack
See 43.
44 posted on 01/22/2003 10:18:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Mulder
I don't think you could be more wrong.

WITHOUT continued training - those skills they (supposedly, now) LEARNED at some off-shore training camp will slowly but surely be LOST ...

To argue to the contrary is well, illogical and can only be done so by insane individuals.

I DON'T suppose you're even going to go near my assertion that if we *were* to have been attecked - it WOULD have happened ALREADY -

- rather than allowing Law Enforcement to PLAN and PREPARE for it as well as SEARCH for the terrorists.

THAT arguement is rather air-tight in it's logic too.

45 posted on 01/22/2003 10:22:16 PM PST by _Jim
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To: Travis McGee
APPLY my PREVIOUS posts concerning Law Enforcements PREPARING for ANY and ALL possible attacks and you have an air-tight logical arguement AGAINST the prescense of a force of 'terrorists' within our borders preparing for a 'delayed' response - of ANY kind.

Every day that they delay GIVES Law Enforcement ADDITINAL TIME to prepare AS WELL AS root out these bastards - no?

As to the Anthrax in this country - Stephen Hatfill. Guilty as sin IMB.

TONS of Iraqi Anthrax? Ha! I don't BELIEVE that they have quantities ANYWHERE near that large ...

46 posted on 01/22/2003 10:29:10 PM PST by _Jim
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To: _Jim
WITHOUT continued training - those skills they (supposedly, now) LEARNED at some off-shore training camp will slowly but surely be LOST ...

If you want to stake your safety on that idea be my guest.

To argue to the contrary is well, illogical and can only be done so by insane individuals.

LOL! I guess that makes me "insane".

I DON'T suppose you're even going to go near my assertion that if we *were* to have been attecked - it WOULD have happened ALREADY

You're assuming that we haven't been attacked again. There are many "incidents" ranging from plane crashes to food poisoning on cruise ships that have been dismissed as coincidences.

Furthermore, I believe other nations (like Red China) has sleepers here to act in case of war. They realize that they don't have the technology to defeat us in open warfare, so they will have to resort to "asymmetric warfare" to achieve their goals. Someone (Bill Gertz?) wrote a book about this a couple of years ago.

I intend to be prepared for whatever comes, as best I can. If others don't want to do the same, that's their business.

47 posted on 01/22/2003 10:31:35 PM PST by Mulder (Guns and chicks rule)
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To: Travis McGee
I guess I can't say this enough times, but I agree that the terrorists are going to make future attempts against us.

In sum, however, those attempts will do less to the U.S. than they have done to Israel (where Palestinians almost outnumber Jews).

Yes, if they still have Anthrax they will use it here, however, anthrax makes for a lousy weapon. For one thing, it isn't always fatal. For another, it's never instantly fatal. Hit a platoon with anthrax and they'll live to shoot you dead, and then they'll all go get hopped up on some major antibodies and most of them will survive the whole ordeal unscathed.

Look at the cruise ship attacks. The disease that is being spread on those cruise ships could easily be fatal, except that it is treatable and cureable with our advanced medicine.

And we've had what, some 25 more train derailments than normal since 9/11/01?? Big deal.

They've done what, take down one more jet (oops, I meant, the tail fell off by accident), and then fire some rockets at an Israeli aircraft in Africa? Again, pretty minor in the grand scheme of things.

They'll probably cook off a couple of their diehards in order to draw blood in a more public way, but such things are pretty trivial overall.

For instance, I talked to a life insurance muckity muck after 9/11 to ask how big of an impact it was going to have on his company. He explained, "we get 12,000 deaths per day in the U.S. on average, so 9/11/01 was only a 15,000 death day" for his industry, something that they shrugged off without even having to note on their 10K's as a material event.

We can handle whatever it is that the terrorists try to dish out.

The converse, however, is not true for them. They can't handle it if we unleash our nukes and erase the Middle-East. They can't handle it if we unleash our biological warfare agents and wipe out Africa and Asia. they can't handle it if we unleash our chemical and nerve agents to depopulate entire regions. Heck, they can't even stop our conventional military from going where ever we want to go, bombing whoever we want to bomb, occupying whatever we want to occupy, etc., etc., etc...

48 posted on 01/22/2003 10:47:15 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: _Jim
Well I hope you are right.

But it doesn't take a hard core "trained terrorist" to be given the address of a mini storage garage, load a crate of glass jars in his car, and begin mailing 100s of leaky FedEx, USPS and UPS packages, and tossing the anthrax jars onto subway tracks, etc.

No training at all, just the will to kill infidels.

And all Saddam has to do to "pull the trigger" is give the cache locations to Al Queda contacts.

Tell me where my logic is faulty. Is it that "it's impossible to smuggle a hundred pounds of an illegal white powder into the USA?" ROTFLMAO.

Perhaps it's "the FBI has found and arrested every Al Queda sleeper in the USA, and sealed the borders against any more sneaking in or flying in." ROTFLMAO.

Or is it "Saddam is not that mean, and would not prepare a Sampson revenge option for the time that we come to root him out?" Again, ROTFLMAO

Oh I forgot, "Hatfill did it all, and Atta went to Prague to talk about ice hockey with the Iraqi intelligence boss."

_Jim, you crack me up. With our Feds on the ball like you, it's no surprise that we found out about that hijacking plot in August of 2001 and averted what could have been a tragedy.

What? You feds didn't?

49 posted on 01/22/2003 10:48:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (DICTATORS LOVE PACIFISTS: THEY ARE THE EASIEST TO KILL.)
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To: Mulder
Good point. When we attack Iraq, it will provide ANY NATION OR GROUP with the perfect opportunity to commit infrastructure or other attacks against us, knowing that Saddam will be blamed.
50 posted on 01/22/2003 10:50:12 PM PST by Travis McGee (++------SEAL THE BORDER ALREADY! THERE'S A WAR ON!-------++)
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To: _Jim
18 guys with 'zero' training managed to kill three thousand Americans asswipe.

And you're people did absolutely nothing to stop it.

Here's hoping the bad guys get guys like you first.

L

52 posted on 01/22/2003 10:54:42 PM PST by Lurker
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53 posted on 01/22/2003 10:55:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Southack
... be delayed by at least a day by the new irradiation (for mail) and inspections programs (for deliveries) put into place after such an anthrax attack as that described above

What are you smoking?

After the 3 gram micro attack, we have spent over 100 million on decontamination, and two major USPS mail centers are STILL closed as unsafe, including one a mile from the US Capitol.

After a 3 gram warning attack!

Tell me how we will clean up after a 100,000 gram (100 kilo) attack on our entire USPS, FEDEX and UPS systems? Plus airports and subways?

How does that work?

By your "100# equals one day delay" calculation, the 3 gram warning shot should have been cleaned up in about 7 seconds.

But after a year and a half and tens of millions each in cleanup costs, those postal centers are STILL CLOSED.

Please explain this discrepency, I must be too dim to perceive your mathematics.

54 posted on 01/22/2003 10:58:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (How do you know who is a moderate muslim? He is holding the remote control detonator.)
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To: Travis McGee

55 posted on 01/22/2003 11:01:07 PM PST by Howie
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To: marujo
Exactamundo!
56 posted on 01/22/2003 11:01:42 PM PST by Travis McGee (Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.)
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To: unixfox
since they can't defend themselves

In my dreams some dumb f*** is counting on that. Lock and load

57 posted on 01/22/2003 11:03:55 PM PST by paul51
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To: WarSlut
Amen!
58 posted on 01/22/2003 11:05:54 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Rid the country of the Clintons Donate $5 a month to Free Republic.)
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To: unixfox
Good luck to Kalifornia and New Yorky, since they can't defend themselves.

I don't know about New York, but California probably has many times more guns than *any* other state. Many times......That includes good ol Texas...

59 posted on 01/22/2003 11:07:08 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: _Jim
"WITHOUT continued training - those skills they (supposedly, now) LEARNED at some off-shore training camp will slowly but surely be LOST ..."

Excuse me, _Jim, but how much training does it take to walk into a McDonald's full of kids...and blow yourself up?

I'm not aware that any Palestinian bombers fit the description "well-trained, skillful and highly disciplined killers".

60 posted on 01/22/2003 11:07:43 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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