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Byrd's KKK Alibi Comes Unraveled
NewsMax.com ^ | 1/22/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 01/22/2003 4:18:26 PM PST by kattracks

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To: genefromjersey
"( In our area, the Klan was most focused on Jews; there being a shortage of Afro-Americans nearby.)"

John Huang II, if you are listening, this could be the quote of the year.
21 posted on 01/22/2003 5:12:22 PM PST by billhilly (On fire for BIG AL)
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To: kattracks
There was an anti-communist group in existence in 1943.

They were called Nazis

22 posted on 01/22/2003 5:25:58 PM PST by syriacus (Those who attempt to cool the earth would bring freezing death to the poor and homeless.)
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To: kattracks
Bobby Byrd sure rose to a lofty position - Grand Kleagle and recruiter - for someone who had almost nothing to do with the Klan for just a couple of months.
23 posted on 01/22/2003 5:27:15 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Bobby Byrd sure rose to a lofty position

He seems to be a person who likes to be in charge. I don't think he'd be very happy with being on a lower rung.

24 posted on 01/22/2003 5:34:07 PM PST by syriacus (Those who attempt to cool the earth would bring freezing death to the poor and homeless.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I know a Caucasian lady with a mixed-race child who refuses to move to the "white suburbs" of Pittsburgh because she's afraid of klan intimidation. To be honest, I didn't think this was a problem in this day and age, but she claims that the klan is still active.

Isolation of blacks was one of the goals of the klan in Byrd's day, so maybe that was one of his crimes.

25 posted on 01/22/2003 5:59:58 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Post Toasties
This was rural NY, not NJ. In that area, at that time, Democrats were about as common as blizzards in July.
My Dad was one, and there were at least 30-40 others in the township. The Republicans there had been in power so long, they felt they owned the place; and there were a few who treated local, county, or state government as if it were a cash cow. ( Politicians, no matter what their stripe, find it hard to resist being politicians.)
26 posted on 01/22/2003 6:12:29 PM PST by genefromjersey
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To: kattracks; All
The best summary of Byrd's KKK career appeared in the Washington Post earlier this year in a column by Colby King.

Here's the LINK

27 posted on 01/22/2003 6:35:34 PM PST by aculeus
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To: Post Toasties
Up until the late '60s, the Klan was an exclusively Democratic organization. Republicans, like Jews and Roman Catholics were barred from membership.
28 posted on 01/22/2003 6:43:05 PM PST by reg45
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To: aristeides
The Klan may have toned down its anti-Communism while the Soviets were our allies in WWII, but I'm reasonably sure they had a long history of being against Communism.

In my readings, the Klan was not especially anti Commie in the 1920s-50s. Their focus was anti Black, anti-Jew and anti-Catholic. They likely were involved with the pre-Pearl Harbor, America First movement which opposed America involvement in the war, but the American Communiust party also took a lead in that movement until Hitler invaded Russia in June of 41.

29 posted on 01/23/2003 8:44:24 AM PST by Ditto
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"never submit to fight beneath that banner (the American flag) with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

Well, I see Byrd's penchant for bloviation has never been abandoned. I wonder about his racism.
30 posted on 01/23/2003 8:49:12 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aristeides

What I found incredibly ridiculous was the credibility of the story attached. One of my obsessions is American history, less of what we were taught in our textbooks and more of what really happens behind the scenes. Namely historically documented secretive and/or selective elite societies and fraternities, etc. Lets look at this dissect this sophomoric and factually irrelavent article.
“When Byrd said he joined the Klan, it couldn’t have been famous for being anti-Communist, since in 1943 the Soviet Union was our crucial ally in World War II,” said our source, who served in Air Force, then known as the Army Air Corps,

Uhhhh...........Karl Mark and Friedrich Engals, were spouting communist rhetoric that rocked eastern Europe immediately following the conclusion of WWI. by the late 20’s to early 30’s communism (or some incarnation or variation) was rampant and at the doorstep of westrern Europe.

Their “source”, uhhh........”some guy” that was in the Air Force? Excellent credentials for your “expert.” Hey my Grandfather was in the Army Air Corps too. When he was alive I don’ty think I ever heard him testify that Communism was a “good” thing just because we allied with Russia.

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In fact, anti-communism didn’t emerge as a genuine force in American politics until 1947, with the outbreak of the Cold War - four years after Byrd says he left the Klan. Two weeks ago the West Virginia Democrat’s press secretary Tom Gavin said his boss had belonged to the Klan for only “a number of months.” Further puncturing Sen. Byrd’s KKK alibi, the World War II vet recalled, “There would have been no reason for any patriotic American to have been anti-Communist in 1943 - because we were doing everything we could to help the Reds beat Hitler on the Eastern Front.” In fact, anti-communism didn’t emerge as a genuine force in American politics until 1947, with the outbreak of the Cold War - four years after Byrd says he left the Klan. Two weeks ago the West Virginia Democrat’s press secretary Tom Gavin said his boss had belonged to the Klan for only “a number of months.”

Let me assure you that regardless of when our own national media propaganda began trying to scare your average joe about communism, that era of the klan was way ahead of the curve. Although being an organization with ideals of American national sovereignty and superiority, they closely watched what was happening with other racially based belief systems developing in Europe, specifically the British Union who supported fascism, and in Germanic societies, the Thule Society, Black Sun Society, and eventually, the NSDAP. The Klan was worried about communism early on, as were the Germans. Also don’t forget that at the time of the outbreak of the war probably 60% of the caucasian population of this country were of German decsent, and many supported the German- American Bund which was also WELL aware of the perilous situation of the “old country”.

Why can’t the guy just admit he was in the Klan and say “Hey it was a different time”. Did you know that we had AT LEAST one president who was a Klansman. Did you know that almost every president was a Mason. Hell we even had a president that saw Bigfoot. Societies change and morph. Enough said. But come on, nobody joins the Klan just because it is anti-communist. It was only anti communist because communism directly threatened it’s primary objective. “Homogenous society comprised of people of only Western European decsent who are Christian but NOT Catholic, living under the framework of the original Constitution as interpreted by the persons who drafted the Confederate Constitution”. Now isn’t that simple?


33 posted on 03/23/2008 9:41:33 PM PDT by Trey73
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To: genefromjersey

I had a FB war today with various liberal relatives over Byrd, the Klan and its ties to the American German Bund and the left’s dirty little secret—Eugenics. Awful stuff to fight with liberals. They smugly resort to ad hominems.


34 posted on 07/01/2010 7:57:36 PM PDT by Pinetop (Yoo, Executive Power, Constitution, History)
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